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.TRIP TO MDHTHEAL, ASBESTOS, THETFORD 1HHES, QUEBEC
10/16/-10/21/44
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To explore,, the high tubj ulosis mortality rate in fhetford Mines';
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regarding #rhealth gpogram in Thetford,Mines;
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October 16, 1944
Radio Corporation of Canadas Sr. Deacon, the new President, Hr. McCallran,
Persormil director; Dr. KauTman^Medical Director, Mr. Rousseau, Safety Director.
Charles Frosst Co., pharmaceutical manufacturers! President, Eliot S. Frosst;
Mr. Sheen, the Plant Manager; and Dr. Lozinsky, Director of Research.
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October 17^1944
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^ttr. Robert^Steele, President off Asbestos Corparation^Dr. Jacques Cartier
of rae Montreal ^ntituberculosis
20 physicians doing industrial medicine
in Montreal who are members of the Congress of. Industrial Physicians, whosetUiJ.
president p Dr. Graham Ross, Medical Director of national Breweries. The meeting
was held in the projection room of the Aluminum Companv of Canada, whose Medical
_ Director is Dr.-^M^fcMkAQnest at the meeting was DrV'Tourangeau, Director of
` industrial"Hygiene, Provincial Health Department of Quebec.
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^liml fii|i. n^t[ Mr. Ivan Sabourin, lawyer, through idiom Hr. Frank Roe arranged our visits to Asbestos and Thetford Mines*--tfr.-^ininw 1 n ig the legal repre
sentative for the Asbestos Producers Association of Canada. This includes not only
,e three operators in Thetford, but Johnsom**`/%t-**4ri^$n Asbestos. Mr. Sabourin as been fcaidtag handling the compensation cases arising out of the asbestos industry. He has also been guiding the producers at Thetford Mines in the setting up of the health clini^whleh- they awe ahegged t^da by lawt" Hr. Sabourin is interested in securing all .the help and guidance possible, not only as regards the establishment of a health clinic but in a study in the problem of asbestosis and, indirectly tuberculosis. Several cases have come before the Compensation'
Commission in Thetford Hines since the disease has become compensable. The prevailing medical opinion in the Province is that afebestosls contributes to tuberculosis. Furthermore, there is enough confusion about the subjeot in the minds of the doctors that claims are being filed for asbestosis when the cause of deat may he due to kidney or heart disease whenthe x-ray picture.also reveals some degree of abbestosis. There is also no agreement on the type of x-ray film which should be taken to properly reveal asbestosis.
Meeting with Mr. Shery&i1, Manager of the Johns^te
Plant in Asbestos.
The meeting was attended by about a dozen of the executives of Asbestos, including
Dr. Stevenson, Medical Director, and Dr. Smith, hia assistant, -and Mr. C. M.
McGaw, in charge of industrial Relations. Visited the asbestos mill and weaving
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October 19, 1944
In Thetford, conference with. Mr. 0. C. Smith, President of Bell Mines; Ur. Andrew Johnson, President of JohnsonsMine; Mr. Alfred Penhale, Manager of Asbestos Corporation Mine in Thetford. Inspected the Bell, Johnsons, and Asbestos Corporation mills. Visited the Thetford Mints Hospital. Conferred with Dr. SIrou, practicing physician in Tj^Wtford Mines who specializes in tuberculosis and has charge of the tuberculosis seWice at the hospital; and Miss Chess, Metropolitan Nurse in Thetford.
October 20, 1944
Conference with Br.^Parrott in Quebec, the statistician for the Provincial Health Department; Dr. Foley, Epidemiologist, Dr. Gregoire, Deputy Minister of Health; and Dr- Gilbert, Director of Health Education.
October 21, 1944.
Conference with Dr. Burnette.
Results
RCa claim rate, as analyzed by Mr. McCallum and Mr. Rousseau, is running currently 40 per 1000. It reached a pea^k during August of this year. I do not believe that all these claims are legitimate illness. The bulk of the claims and the highest disbursements are in the radio department whifih employes about 90 percent females. Predominant diagnoses are neurasthenia, weakness; anemia, etc. Dr. Kaufman was very critical of the ^ompanyrs claim administration, especially the part played by the Medical Examiner-. He said they were poorly trained and did not help in controlling malingering. He made a point of the fact that Examiners1., examination was no more revealing of the patient's physical condition than the patient's own physician. He complained about the -Company's failure to use laboratory procedures such as blood tests, x-rays, etc., to check up on vague diagnoses submitted by attending physicians. He was bitter about one case which the Company permitted to have 13 weeks' disability because our Medical Examiner agreed with the attending physician, although Dr. Kaufman believed the worker was malingering. On the other hand, on a case where he knew the facts and thought that the worker needed a rest the claim was turned down.
The Radio Department was inspected and new ventilating hoods to take off soldering fumes were observed. These foUored Mr. Fehnel' s previous study of the plant. He will make a recheck of these working conditions on this trip.
Charles Prosst Company is plannln~g a health service for its 200 employees. Mr. Fehnel and I inspected the plant, made suggestions regarding the health service, and we will send Dr. Lozinsky information on the medical setup for a small plant. Several working locations in the plant raised the question of possible hazard from mixing drugs. Mr. Fehnel will make a survey s in these working locations on this trip.
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On October 17th at 3*30 at the Aluminum Company of Canada, Mr. Fehnel and I spoke on industrial hygiene. Dr. Ross presided. I described the organization and purpose of the Industrial Hygiene Bureau of the Company, and then discussed briefly the reason for our visit, with some discussion about tuberculosis and asbestosis. Also discussed the role of industrial medical s ervdee in the~problem of rehabilitation of veterans returning to industry and recent developments in the control of respiratory infections. Also saw a very interesting color film on nutrition produced by Squibb & Co. It is a 16-mm. film,-runs about 40 minutes, and-is called "Modern Nutrition". A copy can be obtained from W. R. McHargue, Chief of the Nutrition Departmait of Squibb in New fork. Mr. Stoddart was their Canadian representative. This film is intended for a medical audience. Dr. Ross would like copies of our industrial hygiene material to distribute to physicians in his group--about 25 copies of any material would be appropriate. Dr. Tourangeau was very much interested in our proposed visit to Asbestos and Thetford Mines. He said that he was hopeful of making some dust studies "there himself. Ve promised to try to secure the approval of the Asbestos operators in Thetford for Dr. Tourangeau's laboratory tan to work in Thetford with Mr. Fehnel the following week.
On October 18th, conference with Mr. Sabourin, Mr. Smith, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Penhale, and Mr. Fehnel, and myself. The health clinic was discussed. Mxx gaxth The three operators have agreed to the establishment of the clinic and are prepared to spend xkw between $50,000 and $>0,000 to establish it. They want the best x-ray equipment possible are ready to employ a full-time physician. Dr* Cartier was the physician that,-they have considered, ix Not knowing this, but knowing he was interested in the problem of tuberculosis, I had called on him the previous day at Dr. Burnette's suggestion. Dr. Cartier has had very good training in the field of medicine and especially tuberculosis. He is seriously considering the offer to go to Thetford Mines. I urged him to accept it if it were offered. At the meeting of the mine operators, I recommended him and it was agreed to offer him a position. I also suggested that the doctor be put on the Management Committee for the health clinic which is composed c the three mine operators. The health clinic will be established for preplacement medical examinations and subsequent fullow-up examinations and health supervision of the workers in the three companies. It is intended to employ one or more nurses, as necessary, and a technician for x-ray and other laboratory purposes. It was thought that the plan could be initiated at once if Dr. Cartier could accept. They would permit him to determine his own leads and give him sufficient time to study the local situation and visit other places in order to become fairly well oriented with his problem. A specified yearly sum will be available to him for travel and post-graduate study.
The Provincial Health Department will send me mortality data on tuberculosis in the Province, The tuberculosis mortality rate at Thetford Mines is high, but it is also high in a number of other Provinces in the community. No breakdown has been made which will show whether there is an excess male mortality from tuberculosis in Thetford. If abbestosis contributes to tuberculosis, one would eppect a higher mortality among males in Thetford Mines since practically no women are employed in the industry in Thetford. Dr. Parrott promised to send in two or three weeks age-specific mortality rates for males and females in the Dominion, in the Province of Quebec, and in Thetford Mines, Asbestos, Valleyfield, Rimouski, St. Hyacinthe, St. Jean, Cap de Madeleine, and Chicoutimi. He will
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In discussing with Mr. Sabourin what further steps might be taken to clarify this problem of asbestosis and tuberculosis, we agreed that there was need to educate the physicians in the Province regarding asbestosis. There was also urgent heed for agreement among physicians and roentgenologists and others who were being called upon to act as experts in this disease on standards of x-ray examination and diagnosis. To this end, Mr. Sabourin thought it would be possible to do two things* (1) to invite a medical commission to review and agree upon standards of diagnosis; (2) to arrange a clinical symposium on asbestosis. He thought that the Asbestos Association might pay half of the expenses to bring doctors in the Province to this clinical symposium;
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