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From: To: Sent: Subject: Bowling, Curtis, Mr, OSD-ATL <Atkins>;<lsaac>;<LtCol>;<OSD-ATL> 4/3/2001 4:01:00 PM FW: Air Force input for Questions on AFFF fyi > --- Original Message---->From: Walker Fred Civ HQ AFCESA/CES >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:58 PM >To: Bowling, Curtis, Mr, OSD/ATL >Cc: Hall George Civ HQ AFCESA/CEX; Hotell James Civ HQ AFCESA/CEX; Day >Alvin GS-15 HQ AFCESA/CES >Subject: Air Force input for Questions on AFFF > > >Mr Bowling, > >1 apologize this is late, both Mr Hall and I have been on >travel and I had a >few sick days with kidney stones. > >Engineering Comments: > > 1. There should be a joint overall oversight of the >effort between >the >user community and the research/acquisition community. This >should be at >a level to avoid interservice issues. > > 2. All services need to quantify the full potential for risk: >Number >of installed systems involved, mission impact of the systems, >potential cost >of >fix using currently available options, acceptability of using currently >available options from a operational/effectivness perspective, >acceptability of using currently available options from a management >perspective. > > 3. Reexamine testing requirements both for initial >acceptance and >re-occurring maintenance, test & inspection. Survey to >determine number >of test actually performed and actual problem identifed. > >Operations Comments: > >> 1. The effort must have a single focal point as the >>lead (AF or USN is not my issue - but it seems that if the USN is the >>keeper of the spec, then they should lead any potential R&D effort). >>The AF certainly has the facilities and can share in testing. Use a >>CREDA as an avenue for R&D. All services, agencies, should share costs . >> >> 2. All services need to reevaluate training programs f o r absolute necessity, if they do not have compliant fire training areas. For the AF we still use AFFF at the following JP-8 compliant f i r e training areas: DM, Dyess, Ellsworth, Mt Home, Robins (scheduled f o r conversion) , FE Warren, Thule, and Silver Flag > (Tyndall/AFRL). All others are LPG or planned for construction. >> >> 3. The fact that Protein Foam is not as effective, nor US00003054-D >>possess the qualities in fire fighting as AFFF, makes it a Non-Consideration as a replacement candidate. Additionally, the >>addition of vehicles and people to the fleet is an intensive $$$$ >>outlay. >> >> 4. Conduct a survey determine availability of ON THE >>SHELF at DLA and fire stations. >> >> 5. Have DLA provide the status of DEMAND LEVELS for the >>last 3-5 years to average out consumption: this may serve as >a baseline >>for future inventory/consumption controls. >> > > >Fred Walker >Fred Walker >USAF Chief Fire Engineer >HQ AFCESA/CESM >139 Barnes Drive - Suite 1, Tyndall AFB, FL 32403-5319 >PH (850) 283-6315 DSN 523-6315 >FAX (850) 283-6219 DSN 523-6219 >NEW INTERNET ADDRESS AS OF 1 JAN 00 >Internet: fred.walker0tyndall.af.mil ^oVo*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*ro*r >Visit the Air Force Civil Engineer Support Agency Home Page at: >www.afcesa.a f .mil >Visit the Air Force Fire Protection Engineering Web site at: >www.afcesa.a f .mil/Directorate/CES/Mechanical/FireEngr/default.htm > > US00003055-D