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r \ $ .1 M 1t V J f 1 r 5 Q,Ajt,A. tiHirog^ cussireAticg & .(aisiBigqwros KIHHBS CP gSTIBS QJZE8C SgPT.26.1966. IVsjttjifc; XrJE.T.Idndsll/ * J.B.Sotchesoa* * V.V.O^btred, O.P.Brink, X.C.C^beTl, " P.H.Eicrdon, " V.B.?bsfcar, * H.JJfeee*l, * L.C.Ptnse , * D.Jfcliier, * J.Ksis, . * X.PtoS, * &SoddBsbR8V * P.A.Hsyer, * P.A.Jiltaaa, Cdc. Ti^iin >mrH1n Ltd. ft II Aiftiitnn Corporaties n* m9 99 99 Lake Aibwtw Plinfcknte * Carey-Canadian Ball Asbestos E^alst iaheiitos Q.AJC.A. 1. hrJfcseel opened the ssetiag * be noted that it van a apart! aeeting i as effort to zeaelve S.P.cla^ficjcfcirm. Kr. Bessel turned the --ting error to Y.S.oetar. 2. Br.festsr tattled throe ffiawrlsat- a. IKT1 aart,CLftatlm of Asbestos based on ?.8.U. b. "fospoaal for bag Barking of P.S.U.Hbres**. e. CcOBenfce hr Chetnam oc the role of the Sbsrtrocice Laboratory and the fibre Inspector particolsrly is regards to the nmr f>.S.E.9BeHett & Colour Tests,* these ware toad by those pretrb. Copies are attached to these tastes. 3. Hr. TJwrWiT- stated that the S.P.rlaiaiflritifm **s as lateral Q.US.A. setter and the provincial gorernrsot was not Involved. Xr.Idadell stated also that originally S.V. Mas based ea JC AJ-2S as S.U. of 100. In his opinion also as far as S.U. elaert ft nation saa concerned the sirrisro guaranteed test vu tm porto&b test "**4***n vas Irrelevant (as per toe fresra. 3.3. elasdfleatian} Cost'd.. A I: i cC 3$W t j > I. t 4 | f. 2- 4 lbs nesting felt that *ftdat Talas** (P.7.) should be used for claiHrt.fl cat!on ratbsr than S.O. (Soto: Sines this wasting tte Chalman tea obtained two foxsolas far converting S.G. to P.7., a cogmnlMi night bsj- P.T. - S?g+ -10 1*387 fhmtla gives a F.7. of 64*9 fro* an 5*0. of 100 ci.epjirsA to 65*0 for C.JX.fomla and 64.8 for A.C.L. fcassia). 5* It ass accepted that fibre produced under a F.T.clasrclrtcatlco should coutinao to show at least a Q.S. fibre Group n\ aiwri fixation on tte bags bat tdrt also stew both a Q.S. Rbre Grog? and fibre Grads Designation. However, if tte fibre was MrT"H water a P.T.c7ais1 ffwaitcc then the begs are to be narked hr a standard oc&rmr code or a P.T. usher. In this ease the P.T.rlawrtfl cat!cat overrides war Q*S. fibre Group or Grade that ndght be on the bags. 6. In regards to-nartrtng the P.T.cliiwrtflnation tte bags ooold be narked: - <a) PA - 85 <te.) or (b) Standard eoloar cods oa per G.JJL suggested colours. (Sote:there were possible problots in regards to plastic bags ub&ch C.J.X. vdll check out xi report.) 7. In reply to a oaestjcm in regards to the problm of poljgia; P.T.ahijnente (Wiinh were produced as a Q.S.fihre bat shipped cslsr n P-T.dsssifiestien and therefore gone) the suggestion was aade that the arrpl" eoeld be need (to Sherbrooke Ub,T). .A -V.. -a S /' v/ Oont'd.. c r K c C! 8. la regards to' HnTHtt fill--Ifloafcicn suggestion* (a) that it obocld orsolsfce with yrmut . Q*S.groope (3 to 6)* (b) rimnlii bo used only for 3 Gwop? (e) forgot podnta (d) find eat idwfc grades fxtn all cnufanloo Bd^t bo isrelvod in a KsKott dawaficotinn. (Sate: Vfewld escb Caapeasx do 00 please tor the rf^r Qaifoxv* fli Mf*w it Grading Hooting)* >w (o) oostcnoro are going to bo boejcally In terested in 4 seat, 24 Mb aeenlstive, and psrhspw 35 nssh osasaolstl'ye, Bom/rer, orediaooo or epeeneas mat probably be inelndad* - 9, the euu^eatiaa was Bade that m need a an netbod of evalns&lng 3JSrcwp fibres. . HHT/dd. 6, c. c September 26,1966* Q.A.H.A^UKIFOEM. CUSSTFTCATloa L QRADUP COHHffTSS' PRCPSSAL TCP. BAG WfiKDC OF F.S.P.FIBHES Alternatives that hare ueea diaeussed to data ara at follows: Alternative Ko.l TUXozs cj**ni & Grading CcBndttee'a tentative suggestion on Moverfmr 4A965. '. Bags to be marked ter one f three methods:- (a) Die Q.S.J5bre-Group plus a lot amber ( (b) n m n n F.S.U.Qlaaaificatiea aaber. Or (e) A Q.S. Group and Q.S.grade designation Kith an F.S.tJ. ' amber or a lot number* Alternative fe.2 ' Three alternatives open for choice as follows ' (a) An F.S.U. classification umber only (fibre only required tO'Beet tide F.S.O.dassifleatiea) . Or (b) A Q.S.Fibre group pins an F.S.U. classification (in which ease the fibre must meet both standards -- the Q.S. - Group Test and the F.S.U.} Or . (e) A Q.S. Fibre Qraup an1 Grade Designation pins an F.S.U. classification (in which ease the fibre most meet the Q.S.test for the Grade plus tbs F.S.U. olaaslfi- cation). . Alternative Ho.3 .. Bags to be marked by oil producers as at present (i.e.U-479-4T, AK-l, 4T-30, 5B-600,ete.) but If the fibre is chipped as an P.S.U.fihre than a stencil to be applied to each bag such as: icon F.S.tr. STANDARD - 95" ` tiban this stencil Is applied then the F.S.U.classification orerridea an others and the fibre must only meet the F.S.D.classification.. Alternative >io.A - Similar to Alternative Ke.3 - that Is grades to be marked on production as at present but if the fibre is shipped as an F.S.TJ.fihre then a colour to be applied as s patch, bar, or in azpr recognisable Banner to each bag. An individnal colour to be used for each of about 12 to 15 F.S.U. olaasi ft si stl one. The 12 to 15 F.S.U.classifications being suggested as: -------------------------- 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100,_1C5, 110,____________________; 115, 120, 125, 130. OT/dd. 3 cc " -- 7' September 26,1966. . q.A.K.A.uig?CRx. eiAssincAiiGH ti grading ccmccttss ccmeots nr the cbhehan ch ths rqis cf tbs sksrSSOOKE U3QEATQRT AND IKE FZ3S 22B1BCTCB PAKTZCUIASLT IN BSSABDS TO TEE HEK F.S.U.. HeHSTT. & CCLOUR TESTS. 1. General - 1.0 file &srbiooka Lab. was established to reduce tie tine usd eapense involved in obtaining samples, in the Held, from customers. 1.1 Q.A.K.A. aasbcra Initially 'submitted saaplas to tie lab. for testing tAioh were to represent average production. - 1.2 later tie decision vu cede to bare the fibre Inspector collect iwch aazples. Initially twice' per. year but now cose ' per year. 2. Q.S.Tast *- 2.0 At present each -Inilrldael enapmy reports aoatily its "Sa&pydx^ 7ests" showing. Highest Car, Lowest Car, and Average. ' Dafertanataly, the methods of obtaining the Q.S.results reported os this "Slipping Testa" Noathly Baport are not standardised so that the reported figures are not necessarily ccBpsrsble. 2.1 From this Mnxthly "Slipping TeetenEepert the fibre. Inspector Bakes a nenthly "Analysis of Sipping Reports" factt it is only arithmetic based on the results reported fim unsbandardixed proeednres. .. 2.2 file Fibre Inspector checks all companies Q.S.testing machines once ereiy two months and reports the necessary correlations. 2.3 Hhen the Fibre Inspector, however, takes his nce-per-year appia for the yearly cycle, and for shipment to the Sherbrooke lab., he tries to ensure that it is representative, on the basis of Q.S.tast, of the production in the past 12 ae&ths (beat froa the fciyw* be takes the new sampla) The method of handling these aaaplas is standardised so results reported by the Sherbrooke lab. for Q.S., etc., are comparable. Ccnt*d.. *4 +: ; i :1 'j ' ,/ \ '.... ......... ...... cc 3. F.S.U.Test 3.0 It appears to this Chairman that oo&-atandard procedures which have crept into the.Q.S.test and tAieh create uncer tainty are undesirable and pot be allowed in any new - F.S.D. procedure. 3*1 If the internal Q. A.H.A.system used for Q.S. la to be re peated for F.S.D.( once all legal and legislative problems are cleared) than this would naan that:* . Ccmpanies would report on the Monthly Shipping Tests the fibre shipped by F.S.D.giving highest F.S.D.{?), lowest F.S.D.(7), and average F.S.D. . Tor each F.S.D.classification used. Tonnages also presumably will be repaired for internal asi goroimantal statistics. If I as correct in the above, I think it is extremely im portant standardised methods of obtaining F.S.D. be ' used or reported results will be meaningless. 3.2 Will the Fibre Inspector or Lab.Directer have a role in standardising F.S.O.aachine (as per Q.S.Maghinwa) ? . 3.3 If the .Fibre Inspector id11 be required to take a cne^ peavyear representative simple of each F.S.D.fibre dassili- . cation used by a particular company he could only aak the eenpeny for such a sample (he coaid not take it himself) with a vaiaa at the cpprccdsate average F.S.D.for that grade ' over the past 12 months (method of arriving at average of . pest, production would require a standardized statistical ap proach). ibis sample in Sherbrooke should give the cams F.S.D. but would show Q.S., Xclictt,etc.,also. ' 3*4 ' Fibres that were produced on a Q.S.Standard (agl so marked) bet later shipped as F.S.D. oould cause difficulties in ob taining a representative sample for the Sherbrooke lab. 1. McNutt tt Colour Problems would be similar to F.S.U.aapeaais^ os the final classification decided upon. MHF/dd W.H.Poster,