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Roy T. QottMman
Executive Director
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Mr. C. S. van Domburg B F Goodrich Chemical Group Veurse Achterweg 6 P. 0. Box 80 2260 AB Leidschendam Hoi land
October 19, 1984
Dear Mr. van Domburg:
Thank you for your letter of October 4. I was waiting until I had an opportunity to meet with Dr. Di Liddo prior to responding. I had the opportunity to meet with Dr. Di Liddo in Cleveland yesterday and we discussed his visit with Dr. Trapasso of Enichimica and others in Europe last week.
Both Dr. Di Liddo and I believe it would be worthwhile to try to convince APME of the desirability of membership in the Vinyl Institute. We also think it would be worthwhile for me to meet with other European PVC producers who are either not members of APME or who may be interested in individ ual memberships, as ICI has already done.
In order to plan for such a visit, which I would like to schedule as soon as practical dependent on the availability of appropriate individuals, could you please provide me with a list of those PVC producers who are members of APME? Also, assuming that I would leave for Europe on a Sunday and would plan to spend 4 or 5 days in Europe on such visits, could you suggest a schedule of companies/associations that should be visited? I would, of course, like to utilize my time to greatest advantage.
I understand that Dr. Di Liddo has also met with Mr. A. Schun of Atochem and Dr. Willersinn of BASF so that it would be desirable for me to meet with Mr. De Bree of DSM and Mr. R. Saether of Norsk Hydro. Dr. Di Liddo has also suggested that I meet with the Chairman of APME as well as with Dr. Peter Claus, the Executive Secretary of APME.
Guy Disch of Tenneco Polymers has sent me a letter (copy enclosed) and will be providing me with contact information on these German PVC producers. Is it worthwhile, in your judgement, to approach them on an individual basis or should a visit at Verband Kunstofferzeugende Industrie (VKE) in Frankfort be the approach?
A Division of THE SOCIETY OF THE PLASTICS INDUSTRY. INC. 355 LEXINGTON AVENUE* NEW YORK. N.Y. 10017* (212) 573-9400
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Mr. C. S. van Domburg October 19, 1984
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I would also appreciate any information you can provide me with concerning the activities of APME and VKE so I can develop convincing arguments on how our programs in the Vinyl Institute would augment and support their own technical programs.
Thank you, in advance for your help in this. I look forward to working with you and seeing you in the near future.
Sincerely yours
RTG:g cc: Dr. B. A. Di liddo Enel.
Roy T. Gottesman
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Tenneco Polymers
A Tenneco Company
Tenneco Building P O 8ox 2511
Houston, Texas 77001 (713) 757-2131
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OCT 1 >j 1984 DR. R. I. GOTTESMAN
October 8, 1984
Dr. Roy T. Gottesman Executive Director The Vinyl Institute Division of SPI 355 Lexington Avenue New York, NY 10017
Dear Roy:
As I promised I talked to the following German PVC companies relative to The Vinyl Institute: Huels, Hoechst, BASF, Wacker and Dynamit Nobel. Their attitude was positive, but they feel that there are different problems in Western Europe which they must address separately. I think the real problem is that they have been given very skimpy information as to the programs we are supporting in the U.S.
I would like to suggest that we basically allow them to see in some detail the work we are doing; namely, technical committees, codes committees, legal committees, etc. I do not think it is money, but rather skepticism on their part of what we are doing.
If you feel this to be a good approach, I would be glad to furnish the names of key people from my visit.
Sincerely,
GED/rs cc: B. DiLiddo
Guy E.WDisch
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Dr. R.T. Gottesman The Vinyl Institute The Society of the Plastics 355 Lexington Avenue, New York, N.Y. 10017 USA
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Dear Dr. Gottesman,
I refer to your letter to Dr. B.A. DiLiddo of September 14, 1984 and Dr. DiLiddo's letter to me dated September 24.
I will be delighted to assist you wherever I can in setting up visits with European Producers/National Associations and introducing you to people in the European Plastics Industry you wish to meet with.
Promoting membership of the Vinyl Institute could be approached in several ways such as:
a) considering a global membership of the APME,
b) considering individual membership of companies and/or national associations, or
c) by a combination of (a) and (b).
Personally I think that it would be a good thing to make the approach under c) as the APME should be heavily lobbied through the APME Steering Committee members.
Regarding your proposed visit a good starting point would be Mr. E. Trapasso, Vice President of the APME and Executive V.P. of Enichimica. Other members of the APME Steering Committee and at the same time board members of major PVC producers are:
Mr. A. Schun from Atochem Dr. H. Willersinn, from BASF "... Mr. S.D. de Bree, from DSM / and Mr. R. Saether from Norsk Hydro.
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2 Regarding your proposed visit to Norsk Hydro Polymers in the U.K. I would recommend to visit Norsk Hydro in Norway rather than Norsk Hydro in the U.K. as the decision making is done in Norway. In my opinion, also Solvay in Brussels should be visited and it would be useful to call on Dr. Claus, Director of the APME, who is a good friend of mine, in order to get his input. As you probably know the European Plastic Industry is very active and the programs of the APME and the various National Plastic Associations seem to fulfil the industry's require ments. Since the European PVC producers are not involved in production in the USA it may be well that the idea of joining the Vinyl Institute will not be considered by them as a high priority item. Therefore it may be well worthwhile to study in some detail the activities displayed by the European PVC industry prior to your visit, in order to develop some convincing arguments why the Europeans should be joining the Vinyl Institute. These are some tentative suggestions and may I propose that a more definite program will be determined after Dr. DiLiddo's visit as at that time more information will probably be available to determine the best way to proceed in this matter.
cc Dr. B.A. DiLiddo Mr. K.H. Lee, Jr Dr. M. O'Mara
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Attached Is a memo from Dr. R. T. Gottesman to me regarding potential visits to European PVC producers. The purpose would be to seek new members for the Vinyl Institute.
I offered our assistance in helping design this trip for Roy. It would be a good follow-up to my visit.
I'm Copying Roy on this letter with the idea that you and he can handle this directly.
Looking forward to seeing you.
Bart A. DiLiddo
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Cor van Domburg BFGoodrich Chemical Europe B.V Veurse Achterweg 6 P.0. Box 80 2260 A.B. Leidschendam Holland
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The Vinyl Institute
MEMORANDUM
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September 14, 1984
TO: FROM: SUBJECT:
Dr. B. A. DiLiddo
Dr. R. T. Gottesman
Visits to European Producers/Trade Associations Regarding Vinyl Institute Membership
Since, as we have discussed, it does not appear possible to have a meeting with APME coincident with your European trip on October 10, I would propose that I plan to visit APME and several other European prospects during the week of either November 12 or November 19, dependent on people's availability.
Based on contacts and correspondence that I have had regarding foreign membership in VI, I would propose to visit the following:
1. Norsk Hydro Polymers, Ltd. in England 2. ATOCHEM in France 3. BASF Artiengesellschaft in Germany 4. Verband Kunstofferzengende Industrie e.v. (VKE) (German Plastics
Federation) 5. Association of Plastics Manufacturers in Europe (APME),
Bruxelles, Belgium
There may be other individuals or companies that you wish to add as a result of your contacts during your forthcoming trip to Europe.
I will appreciate your comments and also the help you offered from "your man in Europe" in setting up these proposed visits.
RTG:ms attachment
A Division of THE SOCIETY OF THE PLASTICS INDUSTRY, INC. 355 LEXINGTON AVENUE NEW YORK. N.Y. 10017 (212) 573-9400
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Proposed Contacts in Europe
Mr. A. E. "Ted" Thornton Market Development Manager Norsk Hydro Polymers Ltd. Aycliffe Industrial Estate Newton Aycliffe Co. Durham DL5 6EA England Ref:Letter of December 16, 1983, from Thornton Also September 19, 1983 letter from Kema Nord Plast.
Dr. N. Fisher PVC Development Manager ATOCHEM Usine de SAINT-FONS Quai Louis Aulagne - B.P. 69191 SAINT-FONS CEDEX France
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Philippe O'Neill Dir. Vinyl Resins
Ref: Letter of April 10, 1984 from Dr. Fischer Letter from T. Kemp to B. A. DiLiddo October 4, 1983
Dr. Erhard Stahnecker BASF Aktrengesellschaft 67 Ludurgshafen am Rhein Germany
Verband Kunststafferzeugende Industrie e.v. Karlstrasse 21 6000 Frankfurt/Main 1 Federal Republic of Germany Mr. H. Emmingin, Secretary and/or Henner Bornemann, General Manager
(VKE)
Ref: Dr. Herbert Deuschl, Wacker Chemie GmbH January 16, 1984 letter
Peter G. Claus Executive Secretary Association of Plastics Manufacturers in Europe (APME) Avenue Lousie, 250 P. O.B 73 B - 1050 Bruxelles Belguim
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Dr. Erhard Stahnecker BASF Aktiengeaellschaft 67 Ludwigshafen am Rhein
Mr. Roy T. Gottesman The Vinyl Institute A Division of The Society of the Plastics Industry, Inc. 355, Lexington Avenue New York, N. Y. 10017
August 14, 1984
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Dear Mr. Gottesman,
In your letter of May 8, 1984 you have been kind enough to invite BASF Aktiengese11schaft to become an Associate Member of the Vinyl Institute.
Upon mature consideration within our PVC-Team I am very sorry to have to inform you, that BASF Aktiengese1lschaft - at least for the time being - will not make use of your kind offer.
Of course, we will reconsider our situation from time to time.
Once more thank you very much for your kind offer.
If you come to Germany in the future, please do not hesitate to contact me for further talks.
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