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FILE NAME Roofing ROOF DATE 1986 Apr 27
DOC ROOF008
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Letter from Fiesinger to EPA RE Proposed
Asbestos Rule
Docket FIESINGER62036 FIESINGER FIESINGER
OPTS
Docket
Wy 62036 Asbestos
M E
File
Ban
Ban
Document Control Officer 793
Office of Toxic Substances
Environmental Protection Agency
Rm 209 401 M Street S.W.
Washington D.C. 20460
Tom Fiesinger 155B Hague Blvd
Glenmont NY 12077
April 27 1986
Re Proposed Rule on Asbestos Docket Control No. 62036
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BRANCH
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BRANCH
Dear Sir or Madam
I am writing as a concerned private citizen to comment on the proposed rule on asbestos contained in the Federal Register of January 29 1986. My comments are in support of EPA's overall direction of banning certain asbestos products
and I have some recommendations
I have worked in the area of solid waste management for twelve years the first five with state regulatory agencies With this experience I am familiar familiar with solid waste management issues and methods with the inherent limitations of regulatory and educational efforts and with the inevitability of and need to accept some risks My comments are shaped in part by my prior work experience but they represent my personal views only
Summary
My comments proceed along the following lines First are described a number of personally experienced examples that support EPA's statements that asbestos product use is widespread and that asbestos release occurs through product use maintenance dismantling and removal and disposal For some of these examples relatively simple effective mitigation measures are available To achieve the
implementatioonf these measures and to reduce the need for other mitigation
measures in the future I recommend that a strong labelling rule be adopted Because such labelling will not be effective in all areas I also recommend a comprehensive ban on all uses of asbestos products for which there are accep-
table substitutes
Widespread Use
I have personally seen many products which contained asbestos or are likely to
contain it in my home in other residences and in common public buildings like
supermarkets and restaurants In my home which was constructed in 1978 the
backing on my kitchen vinyl sheet flooring has been tested at 60 asbestos the
wiring in my stove was found to have asbestos insulation after some persistent
of the manufacturer and some ceiling lighting fixtures appear to
questioning
have asbestos wire insulation also
My 1985 imported car is reported to have
asbestos in both front and rear brakes by the manufacturer's customer service
office At a former residence I found deteriorating gaskets in the burners of
an old gas stove which were tested and determined to have significant asbestos
and content In the homes of a number of friends I have seen old pipe insulation
of the type that contains asbestos Numerous homes in the area have cement
siding shingles cement roofing shingles many of which I presume to contain
some asbestos In a number of supermankets and restaurants I have observed
worn floor tiles which had long since lost any coating Of course one
very
cannot
tell
visually whether
these
tiles
are
vinyl
asbestos
tile
but
I
would
guess that it is a good assumption that some of them are
Asbestos Release
The mere presence of asbestos is of course not sufficient
However I have found that most of the asbestos products I
expected
to release
some
of
their
asbestos
through
normal
,
-
cleaning dismantling and removal and disposal
cause for concern have seen can be use maintenance and
Normal use of vinyl asbestos tile by customers entering restaurants or checking out of supermarkets will release asbestos into the indoor air
Maintenance and cleaning activities even if infrequent can probably result in much greater exposures than result from normal routine use of asbestos products
two Years ago I spendat ys thoroughly cleaning a cellar in my old house which
had large sections of hot water pipe covered with what was likely magnesia-
asbestos insulation Being unaware of any need for caution I spent a good deal
the of effort dry sweeping cellar and brushing the cobwebs and dust off of the of top the insulated pipe I cannot tell what concentrations of dust and
asbestos I was exposed to but nose did get its share of dust even after breathing through wet handkerchief Some idea of the magnitude of potential exposure can be gained by assuming that I was exposed to the current or proposed OSHA PEL of 2.0 cc or 0.1 cc for the 10 hours I was stirring up things in
the cellar At these assumed rates the number of fibers I would have inhaled
to during those 10 hours would be equivalent the exposure I would get from
breathing the typical ambient urban air concentration of 0.00007 cc for 33 or 1.6 years respectively My point is that infrequent perhaps time
maintenance events may result in much greater exposure to asbestos ctlheananimnagny oyrears of routine activities which may include routine use of many asbestos products
has instances where damage to asbestos products has resulted in
I have also seen
electric stove and
asbestos release The asbestos wiring insulation in my ceiling light fixtures been frayed by vibration or some other
in one oAf frmyiend has a vinyl sheet kitchen floor in which sections of the vinyl
cause
been
worn
off
exposing
patches
of
the
backing
which
might
contain
asbestos
hI ashave enclosed a picture of damaged asbestos cement sidoifngthattesltoetd iat a1p8peaarssbestos
which borders on a vacant lot From the configuration ball in the lot I been broken off by children playing
that this siding has
in the playing area on the sidewalk and in the street
found pieces of this siding
of these siding pieces does not constitute a
nearby Again the mere presence
asbestos is being released by cars driving
problem
by
itself
but
I
expect
some
the
road
and
to
a
lesser
degree
by
the
children
over the pieces along the side of
running on some of the other pieces
I have one
pieces
The evidence of remodeling in which asbestos may have been released
also
seen
house
someone was
replacing
the
sheet
flooring
many
backing were
aofpartthmeenttorn up old flooring which may have had asbestos
Damaged Asbestos Siding Next to Vacant Lot Play Area
Pipe Insulation from Homeowner Remodeling Remodeling which was Left at the
Curb for Disposal
left in a pile out front for the refuse collector I have also enclosed a
picture showing another instance in which a homeowner was remodeling a room and had left some pipe insulation at the curb for collection The removal of
sheet flooring and pipe insulation which does
to result in exposure to homeowners exposure
for some time
contain asbestos
that may continue
.
can be within
expected the home
Disposal ofsimilar asbestos products can also result in the releasoef asbestos
as the discarded product moves through the solid waste management system Collection vehicle personnel can be exposed when they handle the discarded products and when these materials are crushed and scraped along in the compactor bin in the back of the truck Workers at our local shredding plant can be exposed as such material is dumped on the tipping floor scooped up and pushed around by a front loader shredded by the hammermill and conveyed and packed in the transfer trucks At some solid waste processing plants different types of air classification devices separate light and heavy portions of shredded waste Asbestos dust may be exhausted from such devices unless adequate air cleaning equipment is installed At incinerators that burn shredded waste or unshredded solid waste chrysotile asbestos exposed to high temperatures supposedly is converted to another nonfibrous mineral It is not clear what happens to other types of asbestos or to asbestos materials that might be exposed to more moderate temperatures which might be found on an incinerator grate Disposal of asbestos products found in automobile hulks may also result in the release of asbestos It is my understanding that brake pads drums and shoes are not removed from auto hulks prior to shredding Some shredder plants also air classify the nonmagnetic fraction of the shredded autos Without proper dust control and
pollution control equipment such shredders and air classifiers can be expected
to release some asbestos
Mitigation Measures
As indicated above my experience confirms the position that asbestos products
and are widely used in everyday situations that common activities of use cleaning in the and maintenance accidental damage remodeling and disposal result release
of asbestos from such products Fortunately much of this asbestos release can
be mitigatebdy relatively simple measures which are detailed in various EPA
publications Pipes and worn flooring can be covered Accidental damage can be
reduced with increased care Proper precautions can also reduce any asbestos
release from remodeling
coe
However some sources of asbestos release are more difficult to control One
example is the situation previously cited in which children playing in a vacant lot are breaking asbestos siding on the house next door In this case a reasonable control strategy might include replacement of the damaged siding with asbestos shingles and a careful cleanup of the broken pieces in the yard and road However in cases like this which involve multiple parties limited financial
resources no clear regulatory grounds for action and limited measurable impact it is difficult to get even rudimentary control measures taken This situation would not have been helped much by having a contains asbestos sign or label on the original stack of siding shingles when it was sold to the contractor who
put it up years ago
The release of asbestos during disposal activitieiss also not so easy to
control or mitigate The problem of disposal releases needs to be addressed on several levels i.e. at the home or other generation source on the collection route and at the processing plant or other destination of the waste
Homeow whn o e chr ans ge their brake shoes every three years or who remove some
containing pipe insulation or vinyl sheet flooring only once in ten or twenty years are not likely to be very aware of how some of the asbestos can be released during waste collection or processing It would take time and a continuing effort to train waste collectors about prudent precautions to take when handling asbestos products or about when to refuse to pick up certain
asbestos productsasbestos Since such material will enter the waste stream on a non-
continuous basis it will probably be difficult to detect asbestos release levels at waste processing facilities and will therefore be difficult to set control requirements It will take a major effort to attack this faceted disposal issue It will take more than labelling of asbestos products
Dealing with the release of asbestos at auto shredding plants will also be difficult Measurement of asbestos release rates at such facilities might be easier to accomplish due to the more uniform feedstock but any needed changes will take time to implement Labelling of auto containing asbestos materials would not do much good here either unless the label was durable enough to outlast the useful life of the car and impact of an auto crusher
Recommendations
1 EPA should requiralel products containing asbestos to be labelled as such
2 EPA should require marketers of such products to provide sufficient
information to show the owner how to minimize asbestos release throughout the life cycle of the product including disposal
More specifically all marketers should be required to provide owner's manuals at the time of purchase which clearly identify those parts of the product which contain asbestos which explain what precautions should be taken and explain why it is important to take these precautions The owner's manual for my 1985 car does contain a sentence saying that compressed air should not be used to clean brake parts However there is no mention of any potential asbestos exposure It is important to tell people why as well as what The asbestos label itself should either list the containing parts or should refer the purchaser to the owner's manual The label should also contain a free customer service number for further information or for ordering a new owner's
manual if the original is lost
Requiring labelling and an owner's manual would have several benefits
0
It would make it easier for people who wanted to to decide not to
buy the product and thereby future releases would be reduced
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It should improve the market for products containing asbestos substitutes
0
It would allow people who were interested to know when to take proper
precautions when cleaning maintaining or disposing of the product
would explain what to do
0 It would sometimes allow regulatory officials and refuse collectors to
determine on the spot that there was asbestos involved in a situation and then to take appropriate action Local regulatory officials I have
talked to are sometimes reluctant to react in situations where there is
some doubt about whether some damaged material contains asbestos or not
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It would allow people who cared to know how important it may be to have
a malfunctioning appliance or other product repaired For example if
the label or manual me that there is asbestos in the faltering
clutch or brake in my washing machine then I will have it repaired
soon after hearing signs of slippage instead of running it into the
ground and possibly releasing asbestos into my home
3 EPA should institute a ban on the production and importation of all
asbestos products for which there are acceptable substitutes
As noted before there are some areas where the use of labels is not adequate
disposal particularly in dealing with potential releases during
activities
It is also difficult to see how labels would be useful in having a major
effect on releases from the use of some construction products like vinyl
asbestos tile Unless the label were made part of the tiles themselves
which makes little sense the fact that the floor of some public building
contains asbestos and should be kept coated with wax or some other sealer
is likely to be soon forgotten the passage of time or turnover of
personnel
Even in those areas where labelling and owner's manuals are appropriate some people will not remember the label by the time maintenance is needed when accidental damage might occur or when the product is eventually discarded Some people will also choose to ignore the label and owner's manual precautions If these people were the only ones ever to be exposed to asbestos from the
products in question that choice could be respecteandd accepted However
it may well be that others will be exposed for example when the product is installed by the owner of a public building or when the product is cisposed of
Some of the examples of asbestos release which I have cited no doubt involved
small releases with comparatively small risk to my health or to anyone else
who was exposed I am sure that no regulatory agency has the time or the money
or the lack of other priorities to allow it to visit everyone's home and every
public building to measure asbestos release rates even though it is likely
significant that in a few instances
exposures will be involved Labelling and
provision of appropriate owner's manuals can help reduce the numbers of such
exposures significant
but a product ban will go much further in reducing
asbestos release in the home in public buildings and during disposal
Sincerely
Tom Fringe Tom Fiesinger