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FILE NAME: Metropolitan Life (ML) DATE: 1944 DOC#: ML020 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Collection of Correspondence RE Quebec & Asbestosis IVAN SABOURIN ADVOCATC M ontreal. November 11th , 1944 D r. G. M. W h e a tle y / A s s is ta n t M edical D irecto r, M e tr o p o lita n L ifte Insurance New York. C ity ftlOJ- H eadquarters, Dear G eorge: RE: CLINIC AT. THETFORD (ASBESTOS CORPORATION LIMITED} BELL ASBESTOS MINES LIMITED AND JOHNSON'S COMPANY).____________ I am e n c l o s i n g y o u c o p y o f l e t t e r w r i t t e n . t h i s d a t a t o Mr .V a n d iv e r B ro w n , c o p y w h ic h i s se If-ex p la n a to ry . B est personal regards . Y ours, f a it h f u lly , ' IS:B S E nd- A L D R K D B l'IL D lN O ! PRODUCED S/CMW Hoveaber U th , 1044 Vandiver Brown, 3 s q ., General A ttorney, Executive O ffic es, Jo h n s-ttan rills C orporation, 22 E ast 40th S tr e e t, He* York C ity . Dear V andiven- BS: CLIHIC AT THSTPORD (A S K 3S0S CQfiPCBATIOir LUSTED; BELL AS* S T 0S MIHH3 LIM ITED JQgSQg'3 COMPAHY). \ v_ whosi as you know sue highly recesase, and also hy D r.tb eatlsy o f Hew York has accepted the ap p o iataen t as of th is date sa d i t h*s .oeeani* to a e th a t i t would be la * ensely h e lp fu l fck^slB tt> /a tte n d th e P itte b o rg A ir Hygiene Conference iT ~ arr ccrd in ly . I wonder, the out too nech a a in v itetlo h v C __^ Dr.C a rtie r* v / could be w ithout p u ttin g you ^a_rjrw jfc_sd___~_ _-/ / / Y tatrs f h lt h f ist t g r , n, I V SABOORUT PRODUCED S/CIM/Ms s Copy for your '<?''< v -8 ts j t \o X j o t / d o ^ Novanber 21, 1944 Dr. Jacques C artier 428 V ictoria St St Lambert, PQ. My dear Doctor,- Dr George Vheatley of our Nov fork Heao Office hae heard fro a Mr Zvan Sabourla the good news ef your appoint- eat aa phyaielaa ia charge of th e Health C lisle la Thetferd Mines. Dr. Wheatley suggests th a t Z aight knev^soM progresses i s Canada th at yea ought to aeo. A Zt as happens th a t a l l nam ing Z have had with ns Dr Canal nghan, D irsetor of th s Division of 1adustr i a l Bygisns of the Ontario Dspartaeat of H ealth. D r. Guaaiaghaa to ld as th a t I f you usuld ears to v i s i t h is Depurtaont in Tereato, a l l av ailab le la fo m a tisn v iU ho planed a t you# d isp o sal. Psaslbly you nay eeaaldsr i t uertkvhile to v is it th s head s f th o Division of In d u stria l Byglens of th o old Departnent s f Psnsioas and Rational Health aev knows aa tho Departnent of Health and Welfare Zf yon da a s, when you eons to Ottaue Z hops yon s i l l 1 st as knew so th a t 1 nay have tho pleasure of nesting yen. Zt i s ju s t possible th a t vs have, l a th is o ffic e soon ia fe ra a tlo a about nsdlcs l ear Ties i a plants in Canada ea uhieh vs have Group Zasursaso shleh usuld ho s f alas to yea. S laeersly yours K Sa t Sefcretary. ds PRODUCED S/C/M/*vs / floreaba* 32, 1?U Dr, Jerque* Cartier 123 Yletarla Street St* Leabart, Q a, Cauda Bear Dy* Cartlari Halaaad 1 a 11*%, ahlab t penalaad te i a i yo*, of yo* a l^ t vlalt* I thlafe yo* e lfb tfla d eaa* p tiiia a f iatareat la rafard ta tha daealapiac of a ladvatrlal baaltfe procrea a i ftitfo v i M ata* * U n tka o u h of tke aadlcal diraetara of oaly taa o f thaaa eospaalaa, u ladleatad oa tta lla t* Va a rita t* ttaaa otkor esa peala*, l f yo* lato, t* fiad o% tha aaua af tha aadlcal directa**, d a aaa A ra yoa arnnad, aad otirar aoataata yoa Aottll aaa* Alca aaalaaad 1* a cartea a f %lattar A l aam aaat ta Dr H rarite, far yaar lataraat. V id U s U d u p i i f t gjcaaraly jeera, PRODUCED S/C/M/Ms American Cast Iron Pip# Co Birmingham, Alabama Ebdlcott-Johnson Co. Z hdlcott, N. I . Consolidated Edison Co. of 9 . Y. and A ffilia te d Companies 5e* York, 9. Y. ^ Dr. J . J . V ltta a r, Medical D irector Crouse-fllnds Co. Syracuse, R. Y. Chicago Rapid T ran sit Co. Chicago, Illin o is . Dr. B art Z. fis h e r, Medical D irector Colorado fu e l A Iron Co. Pueblo, Colorado Tennessee Coal Iron and Railroad Co. P airf ie ld , Alabama Lanrentlde Co. Grand Mere, Qua. Iron ore mines In Northern Michigan and Minnesota Gogebic and Marquette ranges Ironvood D istric t Iron River (speak to Dr. Gardner) 0866 PRODUCED SiCiW'1 Wi yur RoTsaber 23, 1)44 Dr. JiiquM C t r ii tr 428 V ictoria S treet S t. Laabert, P.Q. My daar Doctors Sine* w riting to you yesterday there has com to hand the preliminary progresa# of The Second Annual Conference on In d u strial Health, whioh ia to be held a t the Royal lark Hotel, Toronto, ea Wednesday, Dessaber d th . 1 aotioe aasag th e speaker D r. Ste rao . Medical Director of C lialee, to rtas * a Ceapaasatlea Board of Ontario | Dr* 0 . I* Selby, Medical D irector, Secaral Meters Corpsra tte n of D etroit | Dr* Holatlad of th e Modii n i isse e ia tie n o f In d n strln l Physician* and targeeaef Dr. F. 1 . O riffia , Medical D irector fo r th e Canada Metal Coapany, L td .| Mice A* M. Watt, In d u s tria l Darse, Tackett Tobacco Coapany, H antea, and Dr* Canalnghsnt, D irector o f In d u stria l Hysiaae Dir is ic a of the Ontario Health Depcrtaect* I aa peed u g th is ia fe ra a tie a ea to yea as a natter of interest Sincerely year,-- A ssistant Secretary* do PRODUCED S/C/M/Ms JUt Contacts la Quebec re la tin g to the u b t i t o i i i probit Jhia&*tir i . Toa should se* I r . I r ta Sabouria, Aldrod Building, lo n tra ti. (Sea : 0u> eopy of wj attached le tte r of Amo 12th.) Among tho retto n e fa r m i&| /fin* Sabotarla would bet (o) To acure b is help la arranging a tr ip for job to mA Tbotferd oad Asbestos. So sig h t be oblo to d riv e job. Xe e o rto la lj eoa fa c ilita to your contacto with tho aanagement. (b) Bo lo eager for knowledge A fL , about aobostofio and would gala a lo t la tallrlng to job. (e) I f job agroo th a t i t would bo worth while to have Tfcthor Boorrlar's student of Industrial yrolations from tho V niverelty of B ontroalspaad oororal months th is turner I / li v in g a t Thotford Kiaos aad studying^wlfEing conditions, job could help par* y ouado Sabouria to hawo h la Invited and hlo expenses paid by tho asbestos w operators. Burnette has already spoken to h la about i t aad I have w ritten h la , as you know, aad perhaps Sabouria w ill hare already agreed to th is . 2 . See fa th e r b i l e Bouviar, 8.1, D irector of the Industrial B alatioas Sactioe o f the V airorslty cf B oatreal. Boraaa knows h la w ell aad probably w ill arrange th is aeetlag fo r you. Ihtber Bourier was here th is week aad i s , of course, in terested la the In d u strial haalth problems la lh etfo rd H a ts , la iapraseas ae as halag a fairaladad a ia aad th e ^ e operatore la lhetford would do w all to bar h is a irp o rt. 3 V is it lh etfo rd Bines to a e e t th e alno operator} Br. Acquee C a rtie r, ( the new Medical B irectorof tha In d u strial B aalth C linic which tha mina eparators . iH ifh-tbr rfn* tipaoHauii wart estab lish in g ; Br. S iron, th s physician la charge of the lh etfo rd Bines Bogpftal tuberculosis s e rrlc e . Be works p o rt-tlas fo r the Baalth B epartaaat. Dr. Siren belieree asbeetosie causes tuberculosis. The situ atio n la lh e tfo rd lin e s is a d if f ic u lt one because no n e tta r what tha alaiag operators do they era behind tha eight b a ll* . They w ill uncover a lo t o f old asbastosis as w ell as tubereuloeis by tha i r in d u s tria l health prograa. Tha aere thorough' : th e job the aore probleas they are going to diecfrrwr. Since asbestosls i s eospensable, th is i s going to oost than such money. fib the ether head, i f they have *to be pushed a t avary step la developing a baalth prograa, thsy w ill got mo c re d it aad they w ill eventually have to pay la coapensatico elaias fo r conditions th a t they say d elib erate ly shut th a ir eyas to now. I t teams to ns th a t they must s a t aside su b stan tial sums new to put th e ir bouse la order. They should develop the b e st in d u stria l health service possible aad they Bbould aid la every way tha iaprovaaant o f health and liv in g conditions la th e eoeanaity. 4 You ought to iook a t Asbestos where they have Br Stevenson, who has beta associated with J . I . fo r a good waay y ears, aad Br. S aith, a young physician recen tly eaplojed. Br. S aith impressed ae as being a very good aaa. You sig h t want to look him over aad keep h la la wind fo r soae position* hick aay be a v a il able la the S tates or eleawhere in Canada, because X m derstand he Bight he Interested la a change. 5 . X suggest th a t you g at to Quebec aad sea B r. 7 . 1. Touraageau, D irect o f In d u stria l Bygiant fo r tha P rovincial S ta to B aalth Bapertaaat. Br Touraageau would ba honored to see you aad would have aaay things be would lik e to discuss S/'C /W M s, with you. Dr. A. X. To!? should also be ih d , 8e la the Provincial Xpidealo lo fts t and i t interested is the study th a t we aede. Z attach a le 'tte r fro a hla dated A pril 24th th a t you night want to he fa n ilia r with* S r. Paul P arro t, the S ta tistic ia n of the P ro rin clal S ealth Departaeut, was wary help fu l to a* by supplying th e s ta tis tic a l in fo raatio a and .also answering sow questions th a t here arisen since ay w is lt. Z wrote fir* P arrot on June 6th, asking h ia whether the tuberculosis deaths, as reported fo r Zhetford Vines, represent deaths of residents of Tbetford Vines only or whether they include deaths of tuberculous individuals of other corasuolties dying in Tbetford Vines Hospital* Ion nay ha abla to get an answer to th is question because Z hare not heard fro a hla* This i s a wary important point to e s ta b lish , i f possible* ^ 6* Tou ought to see fir* Grahaa Xoss, Medical D irector of V ational eweries. As soon as Z know your plans as rsgards dates th a t you w ill be in o ntreal, Z w ill be glad to w rite Dr. Xoss and l e t h la knoe th a t you are coning* Xe aay wish to bring together*a group of jhyslcians who are doing in d u stria l health to aeet you* Z attach a copy o f the rep o rt which sunaarites the tr ip Z aede to Canada between October 16 and 21, 1944, which you alg h t want to glance through. Z would be glad to answer aay questions th a t you have, George V. Wheatley, V.fi. A ssistant T ice-P rssidsnt, Welfare . Q u ct?c /T sbss" fy\t\ecs Name Year Albert Payeur Gedeon Roussin Phelemon Tardiff Marjorique Perron Alfred LaPointe Alfred Sylvain Elzear Mathieu Albert Carterette Alphonse Dubois Alphonse Turcotte Joe Adams Charles Lemieux Phidim Gilbert Edouard Martin Liboire Gagne Leo -Groupil Sinai LePleur Alfred Gagne Joseph Rodrique Philippe Gagnon Michael Szurich Leonard Dovon Albert Allaire Evangelista Guenette Amedee St. Hilaire Albert Lamothe Odilon Perron Ledonia Guimond Joseph Marceau il II Henri Lachance Henri Levesque Alphonse Labbe Georges Laasse Gaudias Argouin Joseph Provenale hrnest Rouleau Henri Lapointe Albert Simard Arlie Johnson Josephat Martel Theodore Couture Jean Baptiste Ainsley Aime Fardette (Fardotte?) Joseph Turcot Arthur Dumas Wilford Bergeron Edward Beaudoin William Bizier Albert Champagne 1942 1943 1943 1944 1944 1944 1945 1945 1946 1946 I$i48 1948 1945 1945 1948 148 1948 1948 1>48 1949 1949 1948 1948 1949 1949 I950 1950 I950 1950 il 1950 1950 1950 1950 1950 1951 1951 1951 1951 1951 1951 1951 I952 1952 1952 1952 1952 I952 1952 I952 Wilfred Fortier Philias Carrier Roville Dussault Leonce Drouin Joseph Boutin Alphonse Pomerleau ? Scanlon Gustave Faucher Edmund Turcotte Albert Morin James Foy Cleophas Lessard Alexandre Nadeau Albert Boule Honore Gagne Napoleon Frenette Saul Levesque Wilfred Bernard 1953 1953 1953 1953 1955 1955 1955 1955 1955 1955 1956 1956 1956 1956 1956 195? 195? 195? Employer Can. Asb. ACL Johnson's Bell ACL ACL Bell ACL ACL Bell ACL Ltd. Co. Claim No. 1o'ii N 682774 1472855 ACL Bell ACL Que. Asb. Johnson's CJM Mine Co. Jo i,niii.Vi.' Cl . Johnson1s Co. Bell Bell Bell CJM ACL M ACL CJM Bell Johnson's Co. ACL Acl AtL ACL ACL CJM Bell, Johnson's ACL 1174030 1081803 I506OO5 IhvCiV 1>/h-901 loyci Ll 1082453 (89151 166-7207 I665929 1653139 1173718 759807 ILO /7 145999? 1759153 1400314 ACL Bell, ACL Johnson's Bell ACL Bell Bell ACL Johnson's ACL Bell ACL ACL ACL ACL ACL ACL Johnson's Co. Co . Co. 1049784 1721732 1595625 2106721 1454270 1661207 2210472 1905483 1752964 Totali 68 cases reviewed from Que. asbestos mines, 1942-195? i V: I i O.V.CRflOV.."S FORECAST: Clearing (Page A- .A n /T \1Rivy _ v / L .V V KJ Dy J05.II VttUW Star S'.jii Tii:;Tro:u) msm o p e r a t e d a ( !r:v f: ;i areas danourous '*orkiller anCormufpcerrie:s 7k-? c c record o:J ret always ir:<-*r i;-p frc::i arbrsto.ds of ihe* full cxtci.t (f their i'J" In nddwien. It::;, often employees to t; ;m inocnioinnkreir.j uni:! y cslo I'crr^r rT v ', . w r v r y Li -- --_ _ 72 PAGES . THURSDAY, M ARCH 20, 1275 ?07**1 year, No. 67 PR ICE FIFTEEN CEN1 1 O f\LyOl.l.i f f l C oI iQ JA L a i r i r p c07T]"Ti T\ \/AA liiili'uLyill! ^ V V p/o 1C ;cir he.:!'.!; m ;o ike oar;! c :b:eci 'o i.,;- a! Curlier, . ike <or .-i >-..i i-j toid Tjjl Montkf.ai. Star he hod permitted sick workers to remain in the mir.es and mills years after he had obcurved symptoms of asbestosis "hemuse the men didn't want to be r c p o r i c ci ill and be transferred to Io'wt pa\in;; jot Cartier said h-' did this because he thought " it was in the best interest of the workers" and was not, as union leaders have claimed, told to do it by his employers in order to save them compensation settlements. ^ ike companies :o deny any co baden. V.k '.V. Onp,hired. r'r''ci'I~r'< T AibcsKS Corp.. largest m Ter Thetford Mines asbestos companies, says he knew " little or nothing of how the clinic operated." " We just set up the clinic because ihe government asked us to. but we sla>cd at arm 's distance from it and never interfered with its operation. We just paid the bills." Had the sick men eon: rent to the compensation board and m arded dis ability payments, tin? c o m p a n i c s would have been r e q u i r e d to pay lump sum premiums to the govern ment of between $5,CC0 and $75,000 for each worker, depending on r and degree of disability. -At present, 215 T h e t f o r d Mb workers arc receiving comoensa4, for asbestos-related diseases. Accc: mg to figures supplied by the Coni: oration of National Trade Union r The Quebec Federation of Labor, i' two labor organizations to which Ic*. See MEN, Page A-2 by CLAi.'DK ADDIN The central figure in the current controversy surrounding healC hazards faced by asbestos workers in Thetford Mines is a C7-yonr-o! doctor whose policy was "to do as much good for 1he workers as pot sifole without harming them." Paul C o llier, who operated on tins principle when dirccto ci the companies' clinic whuh hocked ' *\ woi kers ior pc:.: iblc nsbosbcwelated that affected rj leave their jobs and seek wui iunaii s enmpLr.ialion benefit:;. Dr. Cartier, who ran the clinic from 1C10 until b;::t v^ur, r..v, ] hi: " tried to da mv k^-l: 1. i n & W j - t t '/. L -' t r r . ! , . . r i ' ~ -/ . ... ?T$%g\^.wWM*e-V<,' .*. -.... -**>i.?W?vJ g O ? ,d,,%\'**\>*' >^:v^T'Jj..-.^.,i-wf wf 1L"\V:- K'*'A*0'.-'7*f?HHf*(K*>>-:':.'::. , . vO-.;- 'A* ' *. ** S t if f p h c to try PU n Y p ll i UxA a trip yesterday to capture Lhe never on film. As well, new technology orm.og to the aid of the maple syrpp farmer -- buckets are going out and plastic hoses are coming in. Tbtt pictures and story cn Page C-l. ise s Id iu l o f fe r s . m u 9' 1aid and sympathetic advice, k never, though she and her sister, ixmeovitch, are ill, she has ed all ofters of financial assist- opie offered me money, good : in Montreal, but 1 refused it. -.ever wanted anything from any- 1 just wanted to support my- she said. ve been a widow for 40 years never wanted anybody to do a tor me my way. Iwhen 1 live could alone iwn orak and one- ream apartment in New York and whatever I've' got isgoed enough." " j j,ave a --^ i government pen- 5;on ai,j pit make do, cr I'll make it do. Maybe it's just that I'm so selfish lhoi j cn-t ,,var,t any help.'' . Though she is -unwilling to accept help she is always willing to give it, especially to her widowed sister, "When you get o 1d e r you need each other and have to help cacti other. Right now both of us are ill, mUe we're two broken up pcopie, but we have is good enough." what >.arings to h o h e l d . in cre& i hiaume explained that rates were tdy set at the maximum in many ons'and that general inflation juss higher ceilings. he provincial cabinet by the reg ion sets the range of permissible i rates for different areas of the wince in order "to protect the pub- lic interest," said Bcrthiaumc. The transport commission c o u l d not be given complete latitude in set ting taxi rates because its basic task is simply to issue-permits. The draft regulation will be a sub- See TAXI, Page A-2 D ia9t it. t .?. 'p. i '>.!'> " The central figure in the curia mt controversy surrounding bet .M'>;..iiiis faced by asbestos w oikcrs id 'lb c tfo rd Mines is a 67-yeardoctor whoso- policy was " to do as much good for the w orkers as \ sible w ithout harm ing thorn.'' Paul C artier, who operated on this principle when diret cf lb- coinpana s' clinic which checked workers for jyossibtc asbestos-related lung' ailments, admits he did not insist that affected workers leave their jobs and seek workman's compensation benefits. Dr. Cartier, who ran the clinic from 13-10 until last year, says he "tried to do my best, to be human." "When a worker came to me and ! saw from his x-rays that he had slight abnormalities in his lungs, 1 told him, in an effort to be as hu manitarian as possible: 'Look, you've got the slight beginnings of a lung problem. Now. are you happy at your job? Do you want to stay there? Or do you wish to apply for compensation and. be transferred elsewhere, in the plant? If you stay where you are it won't affect your condition that much and if you become incapacitated you can always apply for compensation then.' "Even if they had left their work c o m p l e t e l y and gone on to drive cabs, for instance: it might not have arrested the progyjilve effects.of as- bestosis. - v l5 "So I figured it was in their best interests to stay at their jobs. Be sides, they didn't want to be reported sides, they didn't want to be reported V '<s ill and transferred to a lower-paying job where they might have earned as much as 111) less a week. "And if I had reported them ill and brought about their transfer to lower-paying jobs, the unions would have lodged grievances and the work ers would have been reinstated to their former jobs anyway." Canadian Prcst Cartier says it is "still debatable" The mail was moving norm: whether asbcslosis would have sub around the country today but an cr. sided in a patient who was removed mous backlog of export grain remai: from an asbestos-polluted environ to be tackled following a tentat ment the minute tile disease was di settlement of the W3ge dispute t agnosed. "From what modern m e d i c i n e brought on more than a month of volving strikes. knows about the disease, there ap While first reaction to last nigl pears to be a slight progression even after contact with asbestos fibres has ceased." He admits there were "a few un fortunate incidents" involving workers who died a few months after receiv ing a clean bill of health from his clinic. > "But most of these deaths seemed to be the result of heart problems, which may or may not have been connected to lung ailments." Cartier says, however, that when a settlement was mixed among ur. members, a survey across the ccur. today indicated that generally mr bers of the Public Service Alliance Canada (PSAC) were back on the Jot However in Thunder Bay the grain weighmen and samplers vc unanimously to reject the lentn: contract settlement and will cent!: their strike at the Thunder Bay l minats. Tlx: post office also faced sty;1, --though' lesser--problem in a ur "ban the postal code day" called ' See DOCTOR, PDgc A-t today. But a departmental epokesr. said fids was cot expected to m much trouble. Ths tentative settlement of strikes, arrived at through media! would provide the 18,609 PSAC m .* A' ' r c o v v 'A:: u . : i' . " . . * c-o. :a . rtCr;:! : .... P e n : : rn i. re'! ; p . p . P m :hr h :: \ - thnir er.-.-s! : P C ur: t p . ru-r.' : 1' _.:. P p : h ' C ' - P psrtirJ'y : .r s: a :vp yrr.r rt . . Lv a P i p f; : p '>: k e P . :* : '. a; .1 w p p p d p the re- c r ' t r. p r P lrp : r:l a ; con: P i.hv - -v --t:: p T j :r..:.p ruth p i : : Lhm Zj re' cz z:: , h a v c up -c ' r ' ' - Z oLr.:'p:.l.h;o rilPtm p : : P : ! 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List year Corey Canadian workers slopped at* p p h r " Lh? clinic altogether, and went p.ira.d to the ThpMrd Mines hospital. h am : P .- p j u c l . grcr.Mp.t of Cp C h 7 :.` M h'ptpl muon at'th a t panrrpy, rail! Lh: ;/hucy was inikatid ky ' - ' ?. ", y ; ; Mot 7/:r?rn-! I\pc."S who told kin P r y should "poll cot" : the clonic. Press refused to com- when oyyrpphcd by The Star. Tiro clinic was sc! up by Thelfcrd Mara nM'p.'ca companies more than M years ngo la rc~p pic to a MM iitJ M. M\H. m ine sti - . v: s. ..pe Carey Crpppun with'r ' ..pt *. " P - "'.c has La on -.S'-ri-c !;. cxcajp.os vi t h e r three u p - a p s c p :p .pics ;n the p -a ArNp-'cs Corn.. HP! Asbestos ! Lake Aswptm C:h.i last year when he relin* . : :-P h:5 y :r ns director cord be. cr.p? n ccravcltan: Carrier ran the chair 77-0 oMy ether doctor wo-kpg him was Dr. Jaegues i>uss3uU, v.ho i:;r.c-d the stall 17 years ago. IPrescult agrees with Cartier s ver::en of hotv the clinic operated, but pays he was r.M in aarccrr.cnt -xtih it. 'T *.v . a n t e d to tel! the worker p p y - h p g ana send him to compcnr-aion. but Cartier was P c boss and I stood by his decision. ' i did what I could, if I felt a :..u;i was sick. I told him and sug gested he see bis family doctor." 'To:haps I wuian't severe enough in -'.'plaining P e seriousness of the l i ne a s i . Pm', meet of P u n didn't non*, to go to compensation - they hrr.v then? weren't very many jobs outride the mine and there P a s r.o guarantee the c o m p a n y could find C:cm another job if they were re p o: cd from P air present cr.es. ""Pry said that P ey would like to go to compensation if 1 could give them another job where there was no eikcMes dust. ! caphupd that P i J could do was classify them as sick, hut 1 couldn't give them anctbcr.jcb. It wasn't my department. "So meet of them never went -- they were frightened they'd lose their' jobs and have no way of making, a H IR S D A Y . M AIIC1I 20. 1975 i goinag tof job security deterred most men from mg compensation de&y>/^oeing given seeking compensation. clean bills of healih-Z^tiartier but he 1-aurcnl Cole, vicc-presicent of the beueved this wa.s^"Jj,pemng " because CNTU-affiiiatcd -union at A s b e s t o s Coj-p., said: "Asbestos workers bav? of changing stunuards at the compen sation boai'i/' absolutely no guarantee of work if " it's more like a uelfarc.,system they're removed 'from the mills or now than like workmen's c o u ^ n sa - mines for asbestosis. tion. Older miners put in da:ms"lxi- "There just aren't available jobs fore they retire and gel it automati cutside the mine or mill -- so the cally . . . everybody gets JO per cent, guy who's sick has to choose between his health and the ability to support his family. That's no choice. "A guy of 55. trained in one occu pation is scared stiff of losing his jcb. so even if someone tells him he's a little sick, he sometimes doesn't have the guts to admit it and take the chance. If these doctors really wanted to help the w o r k e r s. why _ didn't they at least tell the union or the companies that there were sick people going back to work?" Dassault claims that cn several occasions he' discussed the problem of whether or not .to remove sick men from the job with company represent atives. whom he refused to name, but "nothing ever ca m e o fit." N Unaware but I've never met'anybody who said he had asbestosis." T h c t f o r d Mines CNTU council president Oliva Lemay said this is not the case. He said 101 of (he 251 people his unions have referred to the board in the last seven years'have been refused compensation. Paul FHteau, secretary-general of the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association to which aU four employers belong while slating that the association was in no way responsible for the clinic, said some c o m p a n y officials were long aware of Cartier's practice of " k e e p i n g certain iniormation on workers' health to himself." " if you tell a 55-ycar-o!d man he's ready ^sjyk. you may do him more h a r m psychologically than good Oughtrcd said he was u n a w a r e that workers were not seeking com pensation for fear cf losing their jobs. physically. It's a difficult decision . . . and company o f f i c i a l s felt they shouldn't interfere. "I'm not sure," he said, "but I "C a r t i e r told the' workers they believe we have a c!r,,,' e in u-i-re Ml r ! r f fhfrn go bark fo tract that guarantees them a job in their jobs ar.d, if he thought the case the event they have to leave their job serious, recommended that they visit because of dust conditions.'' their family doctor. Union spokesmen deny this, saying "But the companies n e v e r told it is one of the clauses they are now him to do tills -- it was his decision. striv'ro to nbtnin lished a system of inspection (Il lation 19? of t h o ^ ^ V c Mining /. which required V>^r*<fr.ment ins; or "to examine company clinic m cal records and issue annual min* ceryjicates to those with h e a 11 lungs." However, because they appoin Cartier to that job for Eastern Qur in region including Gaspc, Quc. City and Thetford Mines), C a r t i was in effect e x a m i n i n g his c. work. When he examined w o r k e r s was a c o m p a n y doctor; then would "change hats" and exon their lest results as a goverau* representative, deciding which w= ers would receive their miner's cc: icatcs and which would be de: them and subsequently recommer. for compensation. C a r t i e r continued to hold t* conflicting posts until 1972 at v>! time, according to Dr. Bertrand ; lemare. a long-time workmen's c pensation commissioner, he was placed by Wulippe Duval, becaus* was not really proper that a comp man s h o u l d work for tbe g o v i ment." "But at the time be was first - ployed, there was nothing incorrr. Bellcmarc maintained. "The gov< ment needed a good pneumologist : he (Cartier) had an intemutionaJ n tation." Despite his replacement, Cartier i tinued to act as a consultant in res-, X-rays for the government until ! year. He was replaced as head ol A \ a *'1 .y \> \ t-5 y. xM .cm icemen :o urce secur.tv sm crinta spc o --*z p-roup hsve up to st rr.xuuartzg pasts uc. j-c tz*K-rT trim the o c v o 'vfd m three : perah azis reported Nai-arml B r i z a s : y wrre1-, "o-^.h Rrituh nr1? gear tram a So-. :& id a & North 3 7 of c > rtrc m : Lstr> a Sc\nc t vessel that o Japan izur years r d 2 C .~ ':'-T B t i X '. to e ito ertoea n a five ytirs a0. ? c r u ise ; Cunar E S ( R t i i r ) - A n d i=cr!d c t o ic by 's fcxxn llz^.bcli H - r r - . - l- g Cntidi lisc ze UnA lin e in iszsfj r d E r^ s q d iic d ii lid y e t o iiy . 9 frena Eritain to Lcs p r e ra t at the liner's i s United Slates west 3 its O day world cruite. aid 17. to 51CO.CCOfor expensive suite cn U;e tries. An average suite J a escala, Mitchell said. 17 I I doctor I'or.linarM {rom 1*-sr -v l y .'.'t wr.K'h c<*c: 3;re .r. cvrrur.ct.'.c! : y lung?. has to uork cvertarve a x i i .5 could lead to a fated ir.i.irge- mem ci ay ver.tr>:> .s s.' nori i :t 1:.;w\ 5r. p t x J C-, n 1>: h-.g cut ase iz-i heart failure 1 that Mart- rexI's two top patrile g-^ts rvfuse rvs icrr.aucaJ; :o perform autopsies on : :\-pf -1 death because they koow Zhf v c^z prv .v the reiat; irzh'p m the e1*cr. cf a court case." C a rte r ir.scl> ;.dm.t? V j > T--raced to w oreirs' wuri.cs to remain tares Ctotocd iros P a j' A-l jeci c! c-r r:'*rlir.a vr.idi t J erg^ral a t o s during March aad Ape! arxj cebiaet n a eaacl charges in late April cr early May. Rival taxi l e a g u e s have sought certification to speak for the Industry id iri vest and central sectors cf Mcntr d . and in Leagued] while a siogJe league speaks fer the industry in tit west seder cf identical. Eer thou: ie said transport department cfficiah tng 9 The alternative would be to wait until one league is certified for each sector and then deal only with that league. E-crlhiaume said it might take sul? longer bci'crc the r.evly-certificd leagues mere sufficicatly organized to fully represent their members. The draft revision suggests a new 11 B3cest io r m en 10 s : , a y o n j o b i jCj!T o 't> 'C 7 o v u 0 ^cr ihi\r jobs m spile of the busardsA ' w ne.rvnllv dtThCS any collusion p.uvv.s whior. 'paid r.us salary and fur the upkeep of Lhe clime. " 1 can. swear that 1 was never -i\en any directives by the compa r e s and* that I acted solely on the basis of rr.v e x t e n s i v e training in s.m.x" of the world's lending medical centra's " Vmor. claim s that Cartier was re luctant to refer workers to the Work* men's Compensation Board because :be companies didn't want to p3 v ; u in ? >um compensation premiums are -tctaily false." he says 't worked on the principle that tf the v e r ie r showed a slight trace of may svstem for displaying the d r i v e r 's p e r m i t replacing the illegible and nearly invisible p l a s t i c cards that now hang behind the driver s bead, with 3 holder beside the taxi meter displaying the owner's taxi permit, the driver's permit and the rates. This would take effect next January unless the consultation neit month indicates the taxi business is pre pared to make the changes immedi ately. A more aiphitious extension of taxi regulations will be launched in the summer or fall with the publication of draft rules governing the taxi driv er's relationship with fleet o w n e r s and with taxi s e r v i c e associations. Non-owning drivers rent their cars from the owners and depend 00 the s e r v i c e associations for insurance, despatching service and credit sys tems. .six*siom5 I warned him about it anj I hi:n decide if he wanted to re me. .,t !.:. i-,b My pule;. was to try and do a.-> much good for hun as was possible without causing hi;n any harm. *T was acting on behalf of the worker who was worried about losing income. 1 wasn't doing it for pecuni ary rewards from the companies. l i e never been one to go in for that sort of thing. I worked myself through medical school by keeping a job ol the post office from S p.m. to 3 a.m. every day . " But no matter what I say. people are still going to think that f had sold out to the companies. I just tried to do my best. ' Cartier says that throughout his career at the clinic he was under the impression that if the condition of workers was being made worse by their continued exposure to asbestos f i b r e s this fact would have been brought to his a t t e n t i o n by the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association. "The association was forever fi-' nmcing costly research projects, and impressive medical teams' visited my clinic from leading hospitals in De t r o i t , New York, Philadelphia and Pittsburg. " I would have made recommenda tions for improving working ccndi- tiens but I was hampered by these big-name teams which spent up to two months at a time here. "They spent an enormous amount of money and I figured that if there was anything wrong with our opera tion they would have made recom mendations to the companies. " W h e r they came I reproached them cn the fact that they didn't seem to follow up their tests with recommendations for improving work ing conditions. "They could have made a great contribution with ail their up-to-date expertise. They were in a better posi tion than oux Little clinic which was i s o l a t e d from medical centres. I rlKnv >.v"nM r^rNniT-n^nfl im- found nothing to complain about, so who was I to add my two cents worth. 'T guess 1 was too timid; I should have spoken out. My friends have alw ays told me that I'm too timid." 1 C a r t i e r remains sceptical, how- \ ( ever, about the validity of the recent M o u n t Sinai study which found a very high incidence of. lung disease among veleran Thclford Mines work ers. He says that during contract nego tiations which led to the violent and bitter asbestos strike of HMD, the unions sought to dramatize their demands by trying to establish a link between abestos mining a)d tuberculosis. The asbes tos workersaldw- are on strike for the \ first time.since 1040 and safety clauses I are among their chief demands. " Today, the same thing is true , and in order to make their point that mining asbestos leads to asbestesis, they commissioned Dr. Irving Sehkoff of tjje Mount Sinai College of Medi1cine in New York to study the situa tion here. " Now, it is ccmrr.cn knowledge in our field that Sclikor/ finds 100 per cent more abnormalities in lung xrays than anyone else. "When you read x-rays -- and I used to read 10,000 a year in my day -- you can over-read, under-read or arrive at a happy medium. "Selikoff over-reads and the unions knew that and that's why they went after him." Cartier says that by .over-reading, any doctor can look at x-rays of the lungs of persons over age 50 in any fiile of work and discover "aii sorts of abnormalities." Q U E B E C -- Tougher iaspci and stiffer fines will be introd early this year to control cond;: hazardous to Quebec asbestos mu Mines and Natural Resources M ter Cilles Masse announced ye: day. But the minister told the nab assembly the existing air pol' standards would remain in force. Masse said the number of : inspectors would be increased ; from 17 and spol checks wou!< made without advising the union company in advance. He said the practice in the had been to give 24 hours notice visit by an inspector so that thions could arrange to have a n senlative available. Masse said the present systr: fines, providing for a 525-o-day alty for a company v i 01 a t \ n ; rules, were " very minimal, rr lous." The minister said he was u.lo say yet how stiff-the Dew would 'be. The p r e s e n t on-the-job poll limit of five asbestos fibres per 1 c e n t i m e t r e of air will remu force. Masse said. The level is accepted by U.S thorities. lie said. A reduction t< fibres per cubic centimetre, a- e/* manded by the Canadian utjc: "not technically p 0 s s i b J M said. ( 1(Mnic revamped/ my new chief ' Cm LV lt >agure : -1 iJ'1'- r r '>: ' Ttx d:Ml rr-tru-oa `-rr :.0 !o.1.a jp Ure.r :esL> w.th recoir.merxa.i'.jcK'is tor improving work ing rcodiuofus "They could have made a gnsai _3 eer.trib'retiaa with oil their up-to-date expertise. They were m a better posi tion than out little clinic which was i s o l a t e d from medical centres, I ;->ougrit ridxy v.-ouid recommer>d im- prn\ene-nts to Lhe industry' bet Idev mre cr seemed to do it. "[ uas open to recommcndaLcsns. d go aum y Dui u uas embarrassing for a little Frerech-Canadian doctor m the boon- docks like me to come along alter ail ^mreybc it n~JL itc coo cxpcgf ^ "c cur Tt.gkn overnight,. lea*- end iht prospects 1er j 7 cIXwJ tnmerre*. tbe clred ffrhmc scene pretty strong pra t Celsius/. High icmasro*. c r--'-'y s^r.y ciLi 1 E--J: O E ^ - e r S The temperatures Overnight low temperatures end yesterday's high. Brack eted figures are Cels-us equivalents. At hom e In the U.S. 1'AaatrcaJ (Dcrvul) Quebec Ottawa Vaacmrerer VictcrU Vra. Max. r;(3 8| 37(3) 41t51 27i2} 33ti) 35 47 ft 43 f.freux---pads '. Chicago Del roil Buffalo Albany Beaten 25 42 33 35 31 55 36 43 45 M 45 55 those big shots and tel] Lhe industry to make Improvements. `The companies would surely have told me to irund my own business, that Lhe leading world experts had Agreement Continued irem Page A-i Cedgarv 22 Xcu Verb 5 b-j gyp flurries, enrept surrey re Are i'-reim- 25 3G Warhre.gter. 5; G3 u'immpcg 15 33 Atianla 42 57 rey imudy in the mruth. Mrrei'umuv. t^l'h'rly winds. Nr^cmxBzred; Tk.sr.rr Bay Torcrdo Frederic ton :t 45 Miami 23 45 Few Orleans S3 52 Sl Lc-Uis CI 34 41 7 47 63 f i : Ternipcjabure s'. 10 a.n. Sum'. John ; '* m a tu re yesterday. 47(2); Baiilsi 32 43 Les .Angeles 23 46 San Francisco 55 05 42 57 jd':']-- e date Last year, 4H5)A 'h |s 3 Et sea level at IC a.m. 1.55 at H p.m.; humidity si Pollution over Montreal Island for 24 hr. period up *o 8 a.m. today pietc stop to Canada's export grain movement, ctoecd some airports peri odically and upset mad service, par ticularly at Toronto's postal Terminal A that handles half the letters mailed in Canada. Toronto postal officials reported to day that Terminal A was ticking nor mally, with all first end second class mail cleared though wiih a backlog of parcels and other materia) running CONaNlAltON') QN *.?;' it ve.uMt between three and 10 days behind de itM'.Wnrs h i T- Cals it 6:0? p m. Sd e a r i r g t e r r e e r r e w . t Y ir d y ^ a t ). High !?marrow rrenr ObCh. cm Tc":dpv: Site'sHurries ^re^rrow vrh eh.TMre cf a few hThr- C'.vrregM hre --4) to rtira T' --i rzzn m uC.t rrta pzp ^ d. i-MT.__ 713773 -xn t7C=-3 rd Cuir ira CTI I Cur i reor -- -- tard 35 b 216 7 P= 7 2 35 15 trem r? 5 f= 74 ft rrui 2 SO 12 ^ iT-r t ft prci 15 1 1 truUi cmU'm*. r ::> 3 7~ livery schedule. Despite a general PSAC return to work, there were still spots where members were picketing the job, and there was some grumbling from union members here and there about the terms of the settlement. Weighmen and handlers continued to picket the Canadian Crain Commis sion's building in Winnipeg. , Strongest dissaiisiacticn with the 1 'XiJ tC M PsH A T U R E v"' r' W, 05 Ml- '>0 <5 re :x, ire ,-,c pn iTlL] TmiiTn wT .mf mi .nU;in jTjmTmTmj JT,u;.ijien4.eJyJJydiJ-l;lii*iHilUPiUil wage settlement was expressed in the Atlantic provinces, where'Larry Wal lace. president of a PSAC local at the Canadian Forces bare in Cagetnvm, .\.U., said he and other union officials Si re r: to sc MO VI arc inerting today to consider voting non-confidence in the union's* bargain ing team. ( 4Clinic revamped/ > saps new ekief By JOSH n t r j ; i ) Star Stcjj Pcpo-icr TilLTFOKD MiXireS - The asbettos companies' clinic hare lias been revamped, says Dr. Michel iresoge. Lhe man responsible for the clinic prevention as well. He says the Thretiord Manes iximpanic-s have spent fCO miiiion on ventilation alone in Lhe lost five w ars, but adds ' it is not enough" in light of the Meant Sinai results. since April, 1?74. Lesage, filling tire ncv.y created post of company "mciiicai advisor," is a doctor, ^lawyer and radiologist v.hxe most recent pesifion was ad visor to the ministry of social affairs. Lcsage has hired a new physiaan, Richard Lambert to replace Dr. Paul Cartier, farmer head and now con She Mitatreol Sta? ttGLtH caivcr.Y r.Aris M o i i t r c d Co me?.; f- t : t I W C A 'D A Y 7 0 S A T u R O /re - - 51 0 0 S A T U R D A Y -- 30* .'-Onucal t>*!c*e cr< t - ' . t l i/.O N O A V 7 0 S A V vjn O A i' S I OS S A V O P .U A V 0> sultant at the clinic. Cartier will re tire in June. .* ------- r-^rsrl o'lnir- r.-n-n Z '.r.m C?v CATES CAIC Y ir.'iO N O A v 7 0 irn O A Y ' - IS* - c.-.-n snrvtY "1 tl:t::k it was a yam! clmic v.Ran it was set up," Lcsage said, "but in recant years it had fall an somewhat behind the tinea." / The companies should have taken \ /step s to update the clinic's operation ( earlier, he said, hut added that un- / \ ions' and government also could have / . taken - more initiative in improving ' conditions. Lcsagc said that ar cf Jan. 1 the clinic was completely revamped, with Lhe addition of modern equipment, and n pokey cf c o m p 1e i e medical check-ups. Previously, workers h a d freer? c h c c bed cnly fer asbestos-re lated diseases. .v ,,.i r. swrjnaAr a> ^ T'-c- Ccn>::i.vi P r ~ \ C>o t e a lor c > r O i r v.'.'re n a ' t ! t.~, tr--'.- <l-t- esic-'x n tlio {^spcT so <; c t? J w f*j Pr-O P.DUSIT -S.-T5 t!t*J Cl3 ncovi tX'Sfis-'s&'J Csr<bo AH j i of st>sci>.^cn d R o c:c^ Sr ail ro o 'irv cd TniEPG:i rir.iCEas O j srlcpm crio r / s s r m prcvrStro corr.T>s-.eot C -w -i Oi3l>3 io e'l S/t.'r To H cacfi U so a rt.-n e n u net lr-ie-5 ^c^5 cUI 282-221 \ /tr/crm sir.c CiriiTi. L'erre Cr.slf-l f'ors pc-js v '012 23-S0 D '.p lc v Arevc!,-.,ivj '5 2 2 / 1 ctnrciATicrt ``Anyone with lung scarring or .as bestos-related diseases will be sent for an immediate exsmir.aficn at the \V o r k i m n 's Conijx-nsaticn Hoard rl:;::c i M o ; ; 're;d, 'n so v.;!i s u d d c n l y surface duair.lilics h-gher than 10 pir ce:;!," Lambert said. vicrsof.o.' . e r rare i C 'jc b c c C oy A 'o.i ''.A'l 3 3 / 3 'siiOns> -T.2 3 ! 2 ECiTCra.Al 2121 L-jZOtjl (Ul'l'.s ciAssinzo ivzr.w.im re>! 5 , 0 . , . r i - i s I.' - "Hut I'm sure L. vM! lake tirni' to re <. -Ujbii.di lire cl i n i c s credibility. Many workers appear to have lost ccnfidcrreo m it." <Jire nVanlrccl Star rjtci C:>3. Lviaige intends Id press far im provements in the area cf dmeusi