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FILE NAME: Asbestos Cem ent Products Association (ACPA) DATE: 1968 DOC#: ACPA001 DOCUM ENT DESCRIPTION: All ACPA M eetin g M inutes & Reports from 1968 O V V : \ V \ jo h n s - M a n v i l l e ' ' SALES CORPORATION ` \ ^/ 22 E. 40th STREET NEW YORK, N. Y. 10016 TELEPHONE, 532-7600 AREA CODE 212 May 29, 1968 a v h'' TO DIRECTORS MINERAL FIBER PRODUCTS BUREAU Fay / Presi ent) National Gypsum Company J.G. Hall V Vice President j GAF Corporation - b P Moranv Flintkote Company -- n F -K - Sweeney O GAF Corporation J.H. Davies V/AivAtlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. ^ B. M. Walls - Counsel & SecrvetaDrayvieDsa.vieHsa,rdvH.arTd.yn,ehLoeAbu,c MAnusxt.iTnim&e Ives " TO ASBESTOS BUILDING PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COUNCIL C. L. Sheckler - Chairman J-M fc&sjr Albert Alpine Harry Messier Certain-teed Products Corp,. ^ GAF Corporation w ^ r'-'' (V.-.'vJ-ifv* -John'-Tu ffy Frank Zimmerman iOw*^ Elin-tkotc-- Company- 0 National Gypsum Company * . TO OTHERS J.W. Duncan . ^ C- A- , National Gypsum Company -- * ( ^ >*>, ; v w M .S . Dav is Certain-teed Products Corp. A A'Li F.E. Dutcher J-M ''`-F.J. Solon J-M. W.P.Raines J-M Gentlemen: Subject: Seminar on Asbestos Environmental Control This will serve as confirmation of meeting to be held in the Johns-Manville Board Room on the 11th floor, 22 East 40th Street at 10 A.M. Monday, June 17 with luncheon in the Board Room at 12:30. The meeting will run from 10 A.M. to 12:13 and from 1:30 to 3 P.M. The meeting is under the auspices of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau and the purpose is to determine any appropriate future series of actions by the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau. Because of space limitations, the meeting must be restricted to those to whom this is addressed, all of whom have indicated their ability to be present. ' In order to prepare you for this meeting, I am attaching the Johns-Manville position paper on this subject; also two pamphlets issued by the National Insulation Manufacturers Association on "Recommended Health Safety Practices for Handling and Applying Thermal Insulation Products Containing Asbestos" and "(the same ... Containing Mineral Fibers". Very truly yours, E C C :sm Edwajfacrd'dlee;'.' Cerny, Jr. (Treasurer, MF PB) Vice President and Merchandising Manager Residential and Commercial Products BUILDING AND FL00R1NC MATERIALS DIVISIONS PHILIP S. AGAR B6RNARO M.ALTHOPr J O H N K. A R M S T R O N O CYRUS AUSTIN O S C A R M. BAT C r. MARTIN 0OWNC W IL LIA M A. B O H A N J O H N W. B U R K E J O S E P H W. B U R N S J O H N K. C A R R O L L S.CARTON CHURCHILL J O H N A. C L A R K J O H N P. C U O D A H Y J U L I C N T. D A V I E S JO HN J.OONOVAN K E N N E T H W. G R E E N A W A L T C E C IL L. HEAD HERBERT A.HEERWAGEN C H A R L E S ' L. H E R T E R I C H OERMOD IVES R O B E R T E. L A W T H E R R O B E R T L. L O E B R A Y M O N O T. M U N S E L L W I L L I A M T. P U L L M A N BLACKW ELL SMITH ROBER T O.TAlSEY BRADLEY WALLS M A R V I N T. Y O U N G D A VIES, HARDY, LOEB, A U S T IN & (DAVIES, HARDY S S C H E N C k ) c h u f c h l L a La w t h e p ) (AUSTIN, B U R N S . SMITH a WALLS) MIDTOWN o m c e 5 3 5 FIFTH AVENUE N E W Y O R K , N. Y. I O O I 7 /? IV E S (./V I ' ( ^ />,' i ' T E LE P H O N C (CIS) 3 A A - U 0 4 CABLE ADDRESS "OVEROARE TWO BROADWAY N E W Y O R K , N. Y. 1 0 0 0 - 4 June 28, 1968 TO DIRECTORS MINERAL FIBER PRODUCTS BUREAU A. H. Fay - President J. G. Hall - Vice President E. C. Cerny, Jr. - Treasurer J. D. Moran F. K. Sweeney J. H. Davies National Gypsura Company GAF Corporation Jchns-Manville Flintkote Company GAF Corporation Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. TO ASBESTOS BUILDING PRODUCTS MANUFACTURIERS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COUNCIL ____________________________ C. L. Sheckler Albert A.Ipine Harry Messier Walter Knorr Frank Zimmerroan Chairman Johr.s-Manville Certain-teed Products Corp GAF Corporation Flintkote Company National Gypsum Company TO OTHER GUESTS J. W. Duncan M. S. Davis F. E. Dutcher F. J. Solon W. P. Raines National Gypsum Company Certain-teed Products Corp J ohns-Manville J ohns-Manville Johns-Manville Gentleman: For your information and files, I enclose a copy or the Minutes of the seminar on asbestos environmental control held in the Johns-Manville Board Room on June 17, 1968. Yours sincerely, idl O ,, BMW:lz Enc. Minutes of Meeting of Board of Directors of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau June 17, 1968 A meeting of the Board of Directors of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau was called at the invitation of JohnsManville, and was held in Johns-Manville's Board Room at 22 East 40th Street, New York, New York, on June 17, 1968 at 10 A,M. The following were present representing Mineral Fiber Products Bureau: A. H. Fay - President j. G. Hall - Vice President J. D. Moran E. C. Cerny F. K. Sweeney J. H. Davies B. M. Walls - Counsel & Secretary National Gypsum Company GAF Corporation Flintlcote Company Johns-Manville GAF Corporation Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives The following were in attendance representing the Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers Environmental Health Council: C. L. Sheckler - Chairman Albert Alpine Harry Messier Walter ICnorr . Frank Zimmerman Johns-Manville Certain-teed Products Corp. GAF Corporation Flintkote Company National Gypsum Company Additional guests included: J. W. Duncan M. S. Davis F. E. Dutcher F. J. Solon W. P. Raines National Gypsum Company Certain-teed Products Corp. Johns-Manvi11e Johns-Manville Johns-Manville The meeting which had been called to present a report bv th' Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers Environmental k L x ^ c i i n c u to the Boord of Directors of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau was opened with remarks of welcome from Mr. Cerny o^ - 2- Johns-Manville. Mr. Fay, the President of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau, chaired the meeting and acknowledged with thanks J-M's arranging this presentation of environmental health problems. Mr. Fay called upon Messrs. Solon, Raines and Sheckler of J-M to present their report. Mr. Solon reported J-M's finding to date of occupational problems concerned with asbestos building products and noted that the dosage of dust from such products and the time of exposure to such dusts were related. Ke stated, however, that J-M had not discovered any risk to the general public at large from asbestos building products. He reported that J-M retains public relations counsel exclusively for health matters. The firm ^ retained is Kill and Knowlton, who also represent the British Asbestos interests in the field of public health. Mr. Solon explained that the British are considerably in advance of the Americans in the matter of asbestos and health control. J-M^ is cooperating with the British and is developing a library or information and is willing to cooperate with others on this ^ subject. In response to a question, Mr. Solon noted that J-M did not participate directly in the Congressional hearings held to date on the Occupational Health and Safety Act of 1968 (HR 14816 and S. 2864). There was some discussion,of the Health and Safety Act of 1968 and it was noted by Mr. Sheckler that the Bill in^its present broad fora does not provide for the obligations or workers as well as of employers in the entire area of occupa tional health and safety. The Bill in its present form also raises questions of interference by the federal government with the police welfare and safety powers of the states.^ Mr. Sheckler noted the position of Dr. I. J. Selikoff of Mount Sinai hospital, Kew York, in testifying in support of the Bill on oenalf of uhe heat, frost and asbestos workers, that thermal insulation ^ contractors are too small to help themselves and that federal legislation is necessary in occupational health areas. It was noted that an insulation industry hygiene council is to be established with a budget of approximately $1 million to be expended over a period of five years and ^ which will initially focus on problems in the thermal insulation field. . - 3- An audio-visual presentation was made by Mr. Raines indicating the extent of public concern already expressed in television news reports and in newspaper and medical journals about the health hazards of asbestos building products. Mr. Sheckler discussed the moral and legal aspects of the problem of occupational health hazards. Ke noted that frequently Workmen's Compensation cases have been the customary routine pursued when occupational illnesses arose. He noted, however, that third party suits in negligence against manu facturers which are outside of Workmen's Compensation cases are becoming increasingly popular. Some such negligence suits have been for as much as $750,000. Already some products such as insulation, are being labeled with cautionary advice. It was noted that as yet no ^ attack has been made by labor unions against employers in their wage negotiations on the basis that their employees are involved in extra-hazardous occupations. There has been seme movement by the unions to insist upon a contribution from members in the amount of $.25 per month per man for payment into a health fund. Presumably these contributions are passed on as negotiated wage increases. . Studies nade have indicated that insulation workers on the average experience pulmonary disease at the rate of 25/0 to 30%. These diseases are believed to be compatible with their occupation of being exposed to insulation. It was noted that the figure given is an average and that the greater amount or exposure and greater time of exposure resulted in an exploding graph of pulmonary disease among insulation workers. It was noted that the United States Public Health Service's theory is that asbestos fibers absorb trace metals such as nickel, cobalt and chrome and when these fibers lodge in the human lung, these trace metals remain there. Br. I. J. Selikoff's theory noted the t there is no bron no< lie can cer among the insulation worker s who do not smoke. Therefore, he theorizes that asbestos as a target or nicotines and tars. Insulation workers who smoke are much more liable to contract bronchogenic disease. - 4- It was Mr. Sheckler's feeling that although some scientists and reporters may seen to promote undue publicity of the health hazard and thus demonstrate considerable irre sponsibility, Dr. Selikoff1s work is highly regarded today. Dr. Selikoff himself has a formidable reputation as a scientist. Mr. Sheclcler indicated that in his opinion the risk of disease is greater in the asbestos cement manufacturing operations than in insulation manufacturing operations. He believes that the presence of silica together with asbestos in asbestos cement products adds greater hazard than that found in the insulation function. It was indicated that the new insulation industry hygiene council will conduct studies with a view to protect asbestos workers in the following areas: 1. identification of duct sources; 2. prevention of dust formation; 3. removal of dust; 4. protective masks; 3. housekeeping practices; 6. establishment of surveillance procedures: (a) dust levels; (b) material studied; and (c) trade practices. 7. medical surveillance; 8. cigaret smoking. It is anticipated that a scientific advisory committee may be appointed to the IIKC. Such a committee would prcbaoly include four medical doctors or scientists, such as Dr. E. K. Hammond (Epidemiologist), Dr. George Wright, Dr. Selikoff, Dr. Ferris (Professor Public Health at Harvard), Dr. Marvin ICushner (cancer researcher at HYU). In addition, J-M ray provide assistance in the areas of engineering and research for a limited amount of time. It is also expected that the U. S._ Public Health Service and the United States Bureau of Mines will sit in on the scientific committee. The Hew York Academy of Sciences will be the sponsor of the IIHC and its meetings will be held there. To illustrate the importance of the problem, Mr. Sheckler reported that many years ago the American Conference of Govern mental Industrial Hygienists held that the maximum allowable amount: of dust in the air should be 5.0 million particles per cubic foot. It is expected that this figure will be revised to a maximum allowable of 2.0 million particles per cubic foot. In situations presently existing with what is believed to be good dust control, Mr. Sheckler has observed the following concentrations of dust expressed in millions per cubic foot in the vicinity of the following machines: radial saw s k l l sax-7 ( w i t h e x h a u s t ) m o n o l i t h i c sa\<7 s w i n g sax-7 b a n d sax-7 edge trimmer lathes (generally high) 12.2 18.2 5.3 6.6 8.0 14.0 It was noted that masks in common use are approximately only 35% effective and that the health problem being studied does not occur as much in the mining operations of asbestos as it does in the milling and processing. After lunch, the meeting considered the role of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau in this expanding study of environ mental health. Consideration was given to a redefinition of purposes of the MFPB and the possible creation of a health and safety committee. Mr. Sheckler felt that the MFPB could be of great value in dealing with fabricators and contractors in meeting with them and talking with them about the problem. Some discussion was held on the advisability of focusin studies on the manufacturing and handling of asbestos cement products. This study would be of internal operations and would include exchange of information among manufacturers. In addi tion, it was believed that study should focus upon external operations and the relationships between the manufacturers and their customers. . It was the consensus that the first point should be an appraisal within the industry of the gravity of the situation and that embarking upon extensive public relations, government reports and dissemination of booklets to the trade about health - 6 safety practices should be done after full consideration and understanding within the industry of problems peculiar to asbestos building products. Mr. Fay summarized discussion by stating that the MFPB would consider a change of its name to its former name, Asbestos-Cement Products Association; that it would consider appointment of a health and safety committee; that it would review its current purposes and amplify and revise them; that it would develop a plan to encourage asbestos cement producers of products to join that committee insofar as those activities related to the needs of other asbestos cement manufacturers. Mr. Fay felt that the draft pamphlet on recommended health safety practices for handling and applying health products be deferred in publication until all members of the Bureau had ample opportunity to consider the booklet. and has booklet of this Mr. Sheckler`s present committee agreed to delay the publication of for a period of sixty days pending matter. will remain intact the Health Safety further discussion Conveying the thanks of the MFPB to J-M and the participants in the seminar, Mr. Fay adjourned the meeting at P.espectfully submitted, ') Yu / F.J. Solon - 12 W.P. Raines - 12 C.L. Sheck-ler - Finderne Division Headquarters June 18, '1968 cc: F.E. Dutcher - 11 M.F. MacDonald - 7 Seminar on Asbestos Environmental Control This is a brief summary of the results of the meeting held in the J-M Board Room on June 17 with the Directors of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau and the group known as the Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers Environmental Health Council: 1. There was unanimous approval and expression of appreciation for the fine present ation by Messrs. Solon, Raines and Sheckler. 2. While some had an intimation of the problem, most were unaware of the severe involvement they may have with this potential health problem, and the meeting served to open their eyes. 3. Actions planned by the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau: a. The name has been changed back to the Asbestos-Cement Products Association. b. A "Health and Safety Council" has been formed which will operate as a separate organization within and under the auspices of the ACPA. c. The Health and Safety Council will operate with broad objectives to bring both plant processing and field applications of asbestos-cement products within satisfactory health and safety limits. The most immediate objective will be approval and/or modification of the draft on "Recommended Health Safety Practices for Handling and Applying Asbestos-Cement Products" as prepared under the auspices of Cliff Sheckler and his Council. This may be distributed initially only to fabricators who have similar conditions to the manufacturers of asbestos-cement. Then field studies will probably be initiated to determine the extent of asbestos dust concentration in field applications of various types of asbestos-cement materials with the ultimate objective of setting safety standards where these are needed. d. Invitations to join the Council will be extended to manufacturers of asbestoscement products who are not now members of the ACPA; viz.: Carey, Supradur, USG, Certain-teed, Woodward Iron. There will be a nominal initiation fee of $50. e. In order to put across to these organizations not represented at the meeting on June 17 the need for the Health and Safety Council, an identical present ation is planned for July 9, 15, or 17 from 10:30 to noon followed by luncheon. In addition to the proposed new members, it was requested by Messrs. Moran and Sweeney that invitations to attend be extended by them to Messrs. Pecaro and O'Leary, who (they are sure) are just not aware of the probl f. President A1 Fay is making the arrangements for the date and the invitations. When this is settled, we will have to zero in on the best place for this meeting. If held on the 15th, we will use the Large Board Room. If on the 9th or 17th, probably at the Union League Club. General Headquarters June 19, 1968 C. B. Burnett Results of Joint Meeting . Directors of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau and Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers' Environmental Health Council (Cliff Sheckler's ___________________ Group)________________________ Ed Cerny hosted meeting. Al Fay of National Gypsum chaired. Solon-Raines presented audio-visual on asbestos-health. Many present surprised at seriousness of problem. Went well. Sheckler presented results of his committee's work. Lively discussion followed. We and Sheckler group left room so MFPB Directors could have formal meeting. They decided: 1) To change their name from Mineral Fiber Products Bureau to Asbestos Cement Products Association. 2) To form a Health and Safety Council of ACPA. 3) To invite present non-members to join either the Association or the Council alone. Latter at about $50/year dues. 4) Al Fay of National Gypsum planning a July meeting, will invite George Pecaro, Tim O'Leary and officials of such companies as ' Carey, U.S.Gypsum, Certain-teed, Woodward Iron - to get them to join. He has asked us to put on the same presentation. 5) ACPA Boards wants to cooperate in getting out the booklet for construction workers in 60-90 days. However, they want to limit distribution to contractors who have workers fabricating A/C products in confined areas. This will take care of National G y p ' s objection that wholesale distribution would "Scare h -- out of everybody !" I'd say that at the moment everything is going along well. c c -C . L . S h e c k le r, F in d e rn e F. J. Solon, Jr r **`5 ATTENDEES DIRECTORS MINERAL FIBER PRODUCTS BUREAU A. J.G. J.D. F.K. J.H. B. H. Fay (President) Hall (Vice President) Moran Sweeney Davies M. Walls VP - Marketing, National Sypsum Company BP Division Mgr. - GAF Corporation BP Divisions Mgr. - Flintkote Company Gen.Mgr.Ruberoid Div. - GAF Corporation President - Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. Counsel & Secy.- Davies, Hardy,Loeb,Austin & Ives ASBESTOS BUILDING PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH C O U N C I L ___________________________________ C.L. Sheckler Albert Alpine Harry Messier Frank Zimmerman Walter Knorr Chairman ' J-M Certain-teed Products Corp. Safety Director - GAF Corporation National Gypsum Company Safety Director - Flintkote Company OTHERS J.W. M.S. F.E. F.J. W.P. Duncan Davis Dutcher Solon,Jr. Raines VP Sales - National Gypsum Company Gen.Prod.Mgr. - Certain-teed Products J-M J-M J-M Corp. if'*'-,*'.:,\V.** '>+>.'U J /v ., U - t i. J . 'ij. j . *4 . \i i 'j 'i '4ii /L1b ei g b*q @F b e ir .P r o d u c t s D mb*g eano ROOM 2300 535 FIFTH AVENUE NEW YORK. NEW YORK 10017 ~ ~~ fi7 /" ~/o r^s J/?- C //"!' JulwieV-vVX'H \ * . ' 1 . ` . V - ' V ' . ' j , _ ' . ' * M D June 19, 1968 . vr / . ... U H . . ' . TO: Messrs. A. H. Fay J. G. Hall , . J. Horan F . K. Sweeney . J. H. Davies E. C. Cerny Gentlemen: , I enclose a rough first draft of a Bet of By-LawD W for the proposed Health and Safety Council of the Asbestos- Cedant Products Association. .1?3y^JLJl3Ve_yoAiiL_:khGU2htoabout- J^base B37"I^jvs_.at-- yo-ur_earliest convenience so that corns kind of cumi-final draft can be put into the hands of prospective members of the Council before our July meeting. A d * ex plained to you, I am trying to imitate the arrangement created by the Asphalt Roofing Manufacturers Association for its Western and Southern Committees, both of which have members who are not members of the Association. , 1 feel that it is important that the Health and Safety Council should operate under the organizational umbrella and the legal setup of the A-CPA. Aside from the obvious benefits of being an arm of art established organisa tion, this arrangement would insure the tax deductibility of contributions to the Council. Yours sincerely, BMW:lz Enes. n.:3 +*r*'ir+ T f \ r i ^ j. . . . . . DRAFT # 1 - JUNE, 1968 : ; BY-LAWS , ' of the ` HEALTH & SAFETY COUNCIL of the ,,ASBESTOS-CEMENT PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION . ' ' ARTICLE I - NAME. - The name of this organization shall be the Health & Safety Council of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association. ARTICLE II - PURPOSES. 1. The Council is the official channel of the Asbestos- . Cement Products Association for the exploration, development, study, coordination, collaboration, promotion and publication of health and safety programs related to the asbestos-cement industry and asbestos-cement products. 2. The Council shall initiate, develop and direct studies and public relations programs designed lawfully to promote and foster health and safety policies and programs for the asbestos- cement industry as will tend, . (a) To appraise and resolve health and safety problems peculiar to the asbestos-cement industry for manufacturers of asbestoscement products; and (b) To assist fabricators and users of asbestoscement products in their health and safety programs; and - - 2- / ' (c) To cooperate with other groups, governmental \ or private, studying and reporting on health and safety problems of the asbestos- cement industry. 3. This organization is not organized for pecuniary profit. ARTICLE III - MEMBERSHIP : Asbestos-Cement Products Association Members ! Members of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association are eligible for appointment by the Board of Directors of A-CPA for membership in the Council. Each Association member having representation on the Council may have only one official Council member who may designate an alternate to function in his stead ' when occasion may require. / Mon-Asbestos-Cement Products Association Members Those individuals, partnerships and corporations who manu facture asbestos-cement products, but are not members of A-CPA may be appointed to membership in the Council by the Board of Directors of A-CPA upon payment of an initiation fee of $50 to the Council. MOTE: (a) Membership in the Council shall not be construed to entitle non-members of A-CPA any of the rights and privileges concomitant with membership in the A-CPA. W . t: ;i 4 1 : ! . i .' \ -> i ":\i 1i 4 i1 * i . -l i j iw v .L** .i^ u . .. . .- 3 - ' . . ... ' (b) The Board of Directors reserves the right to , - ' terminate any membership m the Council without '' .. . ".cause. ' . . (c) Any member of the Council may resign his Council , . . membership at any time by giving written notice . of resignation to the President of A-CPA, but . shall not be entitled to any refund of voluntary . contributions theretofore made to the funds of the Council. ARTICLE IV - MEETINGS. ' \ ' 1 Meetings of the Council shall be called by the . . President of the Council, a majority of the members of the Council or by the President of : ' A-CPA. ' ' .. / . 2. Notices of Meetings shall be issued to Committee . members only from the offices of the A-CPA, and each such notice shall be accompanied by a written agenda detailing the subjects to be considered, and no subjects not on the agenda shall come before the Meeting. ARTICLE V - OFFICERS. ' The Council shall elect annually from its members a President and a Vice-President who shall serve until the next annual elec tion or until their successors shall have duly qualified. - 4- The Secretary of A-CPA shall act as Secretary of the Council and the Treasurer of the Council shall be the Treasurer of A-CPA. ARTICLE VI - MINUTES. . Minutes of all Council proceedings shall be duly kept, re viewed by legal counsel of A-CPA, and distributed to all Council members as well as to members of the Board of Directors of A-CPA when legal counsel shall so advise. ARTICLE VII" - COUNCIL PUMPS. The funds of the Council, together with records of receipts and disbursements therefrom, shall be kept separate from the funds of A-CPA. Council funds will derive from voluntary contributiona that may be made by A-CPA members, Non- ACPA metiers, and concerns who sell materials used in the manufacture of asbestos cement products. The amounts and methods of contributing shall be as determined by each individual contributor. ARTICLE VIII - REVIEW. All policies and programs of the Council are subject to review by the Board of Directors of A-CPA and by A-CPA legal counsel, ARTICLE IX - AMENDMENTS. Tha Council may propone amendments to theoe By-Laua an experience nay suggest to the Board of Directors of A-CPA for approval or disapproval of. all proposed amendments to those By-Lavra.  - 5 - ; !< ARTICLE X - DISSOLUTION. ; ' ^ 1. The Council may be dissolved by the vote or written consent of two-thirds of the Council or by resolution of the Board of Directors of A-CPA. . 2. In the event of the dissolution of the Council.each member thereof at the time of such didsolution shall be entitled to a refund from the net assets of the Council according to such Member's total contributions to the Council. Environmental Control Cpartismt Hcst'firch ti Engineering Contar June 70, i58 E . C. Corny JDI1Q Seminar on Ar-bestoa-Cenant Environmental Control ______________ Your l e t t e r Juno I S , lQAft_____________ On b e h a lf o f our J-M Environmental C ontrol P c p a r te e n t find our Afibectoe E-ollding Product Manufacturers E n v iro n m o ta l Ifoalth C ou n cil, I viefa to thank you fo r ' a rra n g in g the HoeUcg o f June 17, ISC'S. I var, ecpsclally plnsfied with your report of the action token by the KFPD Board of Directors core erning their desire to pursue health safety practices both in manufacturing and fabrication-application. As in d ica te d a t the faceting, ve will twin to in our present Asbestos E n ild in - Prc-uuctc iinioeturer Envlrons-ent.nl Ilsoltb Council. Ve w i l l cooperate end c o o rd in a te a c t i v i t i e s with your croup u n t i l such a t i n - th a t both* o rg a n is a tio n s or;v<?o i t Is odvr.ntngeous. to cc:\Mno in to coo o r g a n i r a ti o n . We v .U l dclo.v p rin tin g ftr.d d l c t r l h i t l o n of thn booklet "Mecr-unM-d Health S afety r r c a t i c a s i c r fcanculo* end Applying Aat9to.-Cc*snt Products for tvo uonthp ner-din r e e r g e n i r a t i o n of your KFM. At=sec i n t i c r .. 'J Distribution of tho booklet?, field atudie-s of dual concentrations in this try f etc., r.re details that can hr vavi.r-d cut after vs have reached a cater-,.unction concerning tha organisational k true Cure. As ycu ere e^sre, I hnv best asstgned tho responsibility v-ithiu cur cvn coornnv to prepare, publish and folio-; through with tbo distribucin of a Health tainzy booklet regarding Ashes c0.5-Co-.'scot oroducts, I will, Cbsroioro, contitruc vitit thir. project until i t baa bren cc.cplt-tod. In c r e e r to provide ycu v i t o bec'tgrctind in fo n u t io i ce n ca ta in g co r J-M n o lic ic a PTuCUces fiad s c t i v i t i c s In vnlo.Uc , to EnvJrene-natal C o n tro l, I m cn c ln riu .- ' c o p ia s o f bu 11>.t i r; u, Standard n r r c t i c o ? , p u b lcatie r:!, corrcr.pood-.-ncc, e t c I Ycur icteor indica tos pltr.s for o c v f lils b le cu rin g tbe ver-'r. of July 17th, ott,; cri July Y, 13 cr 17. I Will ca bu -12, I vi *1 Is available en the 15 (,h cr CLS/clv Ene. cc; C. 5. t u r r e t t - GIX! A. C. t?. F. F. Dutchsr - CM; 11. F. acLouald - C. C. L. ibechlcr F. J . o lo it - Cl'C; ' ?, Fe icea - CQ File C Division Uaadqunrters June 20, 1$6S F.E. H.F. F.J. W.P. C.L. Dutcher MacDonald Solon ftnines Sho-klor - Finderne Seminar on Asbestos F-nviron-rmta 1 Control This is a follo'.--up to my letter of June IS vhich vas a suaranry of the neetins on June 17. Flense note the attached drift of By-L-.ws for the proposed Health and Safety Council of the Asbnstos-Cervrnt Product? Association. I can see nothin;; vronwith the v.'iy this has been put together (end hive so ndvir-ed Bradley Valia); end believe that the Council will he a valuable industry-wide v. hiele for the publication of any health and safety standards. The date of the ne::t meeting his not yet boon established ron the three d m os of July 9, 15, or 17, but I '.dll advise you os soon as 1 hear Iron A1 i :y. \ Division Headquarters June 27, 1968 cc: F.E. Dutcher D.L. Hinmon M F. MacDonald Attached Letter Asbestos-Cement Products Association Health and Safety Council___________ This meeting should be organized in the same way as our previous one since the objective will be to expose the potential new members of the Health and Safety Council of A-CPA to the importance of their participation in membership in and the work of the Health and Safety Council. You will note that the time has been tightened up somewhat because the only ones not now familiar with the facts are the representatives from Supradur, U.S. Gypsum, Philip Carey and Woodward. Since I am sure the Health and Safety Council will get under way, I would appreciate your opinion on who should represent J-M in this activity. Please note that the companies who will be in the Council are all the manufacturers of asbestos-cement products in the United States. This, of course, includes pipe, which is manufactured by Certain-teed, Flintkote, Woodward and J-M. I am sure that this group would welcome Cliff Sheckler for membership and would probably welcome his leadership. However, I ought to have some guidance on whether this fits in with your planning. E.C. Cerny J O H N S - M A N VI LLE SALES CORPORATION 22 E. 401h STREET NEW YORK, N.Y. 10016 TELEPHONE: 532-7600 AREA CODE 212 June 27, 1968 TO DIRECTORS ASBESTOS-CEMENT PRODUCTS A. H. Fay - President J.G. Hall - Vice Pres, (unable to J.D. Moran ' F.K Sweeney J.H. Davies B. M. Walls - Counsel & Secretary ASSOCIATION National Gypsum Company GAF Corporation Flintkote Company GAF Corporation Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives TO OTHER ASBESTOS-CEMENT MANUFACTURING Fred Netter (attachments) M.S. Davis Fred Williams (attachments) Paul Kipp Wendell Brown James Suddeth (attachments) W.R. Bond (attachments) COMPANY REPRESENTATIVES Supradur Corporation Certain-teed Products Corporation U.S. Gypsum Company U.S. Gypsum Company U.S. Gypsum Company Philip Carey Corporation Woodward Corporation TO OTHERS CONCERNED F.E. Dutcher D.L. Hinmon 'F.J. Solon W.P. Raines C.L. Sheckler WITH ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL J-M J-M J-M J-M J-M Gentlemen: Subject: Asbestos-Cement Products Association Health and Safety Council___________ This will serve as confirmation of meeting to be held in the Johns-Manville Board Room on the 11th floor, 22 East 40th Street at 10:30 A.M. Monday, July 15 with luncheon in the Board Room at 12:30. The meeting will run from 10:30 A.M. to 12:15 P.M. and will conclude by 1:30 after luncheon is served. The meeting is under the auspices of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association; and the purpose is to solicit membership in the.newly-organized Health and Safety Council of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association and to set up programs for the Health and Safety Council to accomplish. All of those to whom this is addressed have indicated ability to attend. If you are unable to attend or if there arc any substitutions or requested additions, please advise by telephone. As preparation for this meeting, I am enclosing the following for those who have not previously received this material: The JonnsManville position paper on Asbestos Environmental -Control and the two pamphlets recently issued by the National Insulation Manufacturers Association. Y Very l^ruly /S/Y ycx/rsy ECC:sm iv<f 'C. `erny,'Jr^(Treasurer - A-CPA) Vice President and Merchandising Manager Residential and Commercial Products BUILDING AND FLOORING MATERIALS DIVISIONS ASBESTOS CEMENT PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION Minutes of Informal Meeting Concerning Health and Safety Council July 15, 1968____________ An informal meeting under the auspices of the Asbestos Cement Products Association (ACPA) was held on the invitation of Mr. Edward C. Cerny, Jr., Treasurer of the Association, in the Board Pvoom of Johns-Manville Corporation at 22 East 40th Street, New York at 10:30 A.M. on July 15, 1968. The following persons were present representing Asbestos Cement Products Association: A. H. Fay, President J. G. Hall, Vice President E. C. Cerny, Treasurer J. D. Moran J. H. Davies William A. Boylan, Counsel National Gypsum Company GAF Corporation Johns-Manville Corporation Flintkote Company Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives The following guests were present by invitation: Fred Netter Harold McNabb Paul Kipp Wendell Brown James Suddeth David Weaver H. M. Ball D. L. Kinmon W. P. Raines C. L. Sheckler Supradur Corporation Certain-teed Products Corp. U.S. Gypsum Company U.S. Gypsum Company Philip Carey Corporation Woodward Corporation Johns-Manville Corporation Johns-Manville Corporation Johns-Manville.Corporation Johns-Manville Corporation Mr. Fay acted as Chairman of the meeting, and Mr. Boylan acted as Secretary thereof in the absence of Bradley Walls, Secretary of ACPA, who was attending a meeting relating to possible health and safety problems in the production and application of asbestos insulation at the New York Academy of Sciences with Dr. I. J. Selikoff of Mount Sinai Hospital, J. B. Jobe, J. M. Barnhart of National Insulation Manufacturers Association, A. E. Hutchinson of the Heat and Frost Insulators and Asbestos Workers Union and others. 2 Describing the background and purposes of the meeting, Mr. Fey stated that over a period of time ACPA had become in-^ creasingiy aware of possible health and sarety hazards resulting from the production and use of asbestos cement products speci fically, as well as asbestos products generally. He stated that members of ACPA thought it desirable to organize a health^and safety council to provide interested persons with full informa tion concerning these problems and a framework for further activity. He reported that at a meeting of the Board of ACPA ^ in June there had been a feeling that a health and safety council should be established and that interested persons who were not members of ACPA should be invited to join the council and parti cipate in its activities. Mr. Cerny then introduced Mr. Raines, who presented slides and movies showing publicity that has been given to ^ health and safety problems in the asbestos industry. Mr. Raines stated that it had been determined that these risks were occupa tional and related to dosage and time, and that there was no evidence of risk to the general public and that J o h n s -Manville intended to continue to seek information and to improve health and safety conditions. Thereafter, Mr. Sheckler arisen and the increasing interest labor organizations and plaintiffs proceedings and court actions. discussed problems that had of the federal government, in workmen s compensation He pointed out that Dr. I. J. Selikoff's extended and specific remarks at a meeting of the International Union of Heat and Frost Insulators and Asbestos Workers had aroused great interest and that an ad hoc committee composed of repre sentatives of several corporations in the asbestos cement industry had drafted a booklet to be distributed to users .of asbestos ^ cement setting forth recommended health safety practices. Copies of this draft had previously been circulated to those at the meeting. Mr. Sheckler added that the health and safety problems in connection with asbestos cement were in some respects dif ferent from those of insulation: in the manufacture of asbestos cement products the exposure might be higher than in the case of insulation products, but in the application of asbestos cement the risks might be lower. He reported that the studies of Dr. Selikoff in New York and Dr. Cooper in Berkeley had been c o n n n e d to insulation workers. - 3- A general discussion followed the remarks by Hr. Raines and Hr. Sheckler. Mr. Ball remarked that courts and workmen's compensa tion board currently appear to be friendly to plaintiffs claiming harmful results from working with asbestos. Mr. Sheckler advised that new health standards had been suggested by the American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists of only 2,000,000 particles per cubic foot. This standard is stricter than that suggested in the past (5,000,000 particles per cubic foot). As to the specific health problems^ presented, he reported that it was believed that development of silicosis required an exposure to dust over a period of 20-25 years and that the same period was required for the development of bronchogenic cancer. A third disease, mesothelioma, is raa.e, and little is known of it. It may or may not be related to dosage. Mr. Brown commented that the State of Illinois was becoming interested in asbestos health problems. Mr. Sheckler noted that insulation materials are now labeled with a warning notice and that respirators, approved by the Bureau of Mines, were not entirely effective in filtering dust. Mr. Fay reported on the research program of the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association, which has appropriated more than $250,GOO in the past year. ACPA would not duplicate the research effort of QAMA, but would confine itself to appraising any health problems peculiar to the manufacturing aspects of the asbestos cement industry, assisting fabricators and users of asbestos cement products in any health and safety programs and cooperating with other private and governmental groups studying the same problems. He indicated that the draft booklet addressed to-users of asoestos cement, previously mentioned by Mr. Sheckler, prepared under the auspices of a group of asbestos cement manufacturers might be the first order of business of an ACPA Health and Safety Council. Mr. Fay reviewed draft By-Laws for the Health <~nd Safety Council of ACPA, proposed an initial membership payment of $o0. pe-** member (which for members of ACPA would be paid out of A~PA funds) and inquired of the visitors representing manufacturers who are not members of ACPA as to their interest. Representatives of three manufacturers indicated that their organizations would - 4- want to join, and representatives of two others indicated that they would have to report to their companies before giving final answers. There was further general discussion of the difi.erent^ types of risks. Mr. Moran suggested that problems of distribution of*pipe were different from other problems in connection with asbestos cement and suggested that pipe be handled separately. Thereafter, the meeting was adjourned for luncheon. Respectfully submitted,