Document 33289JLnDrvVwMMaLGQXo3wE
American Petroleum Institute
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George M. Woodall, Ph.D. Senior Toxicologist
Minutes Benzene Consortium Conference Call
April 24, 2001
Participants: Barach Brody Bill Maseth Patrick Beatty Lorraine Twerdok Don Burnette John Depasquale
Stuart Cagen Norm Zeiser Chris Roythorn Patsy Clegg Otto Wong Rob Schnatter
Funding Status~um.nl~..y (Lofrai~el"'werdok)
Myron Harrison Tom Armstrong Craig Parker Rich Herold Christy Quinn George Woodall
Available Funds
Itis unlik~ly th~t additioh~l A.PIOues ~udget funds would be provided without
firtncommitments frohI mefupertompanies. API has provided approximately $700Kip s~~d fuoney for the p~oject6ver t4el~st). 5 years ($350K from specific Benzene Task F.orce pr6j~cts~.$185k reprogramm,ed from other Benzene Task
Force projects, and.$165K re.program.med from rt&PS) ...
$17K in comp~ny ~eedmon~y contrib4.ti6ris r~main fr6mlh~ original $85K
promised (only $60K:was~ctually colle.cted,.another $25K inolltstanding commitments from 2couip~nies havenot been pa.id) .. / .
$4,100 in API's Dues Budg~tin6hi~s re~,t"inJ.lncomrtiittedll.msp~nt
Outstanding CommitmentslNeeds $2,500 to Chinese bioethicist $21K to EMBSI $25K to Dr. Fu of Fudan University for laboratory renovations (part of the exit strategy commitments, see below) Reviewers to review final protocols, estimated cost.of $75K
Schedule for a Decision
Funding in Irons lab for this work comes to an end on June 1, he needs a guarantee by May 15th or his staff positions will be terminated by the University.
ACTION ITEMIDECISION (Member Companies): Letter of commitment from
companies by May 1 (with contingencies) to Lorraine Twerdok. An e-mail
followed up by a hard-copy letter is acceptable.
Lorraine Twerdok
American Petroleum Institute
1220 L Street, NW
Washington, DC 20005
Twerdokl@api.org
An equal opportunity employer
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Points needed for the commitment letter: Co. is committed to participate in the consortium pending enough companies contribute to create a critical mass of funding (see note below). Any contingencies upon which participation is based, e.g., review process, nonindustry stakeholder participation.
Critical mass will be based upon number of shares represented by participating companies and will be determined by the consortium members on another conference call. Next conference call on May 3, 3:30 PM EDT
Ethics Summary (BafJlch Brody - see handout) Dr. Brody feels that the prOtocols are in very good shape and the areas have been identified that need/to be finahzed with the Chinese investigators (e.g., the consent forms, etc.) .
Benefits
P~ymeIJ.ts to indivigU"als"~ may be in'cash, and may need to be linked to completing
. the corisentforms a.sa form"ofdocumentation
There is a ne~dt~ .consider the~ech~nics/logistics of payments in the protocol
protectio~'~fC~~~d~~tialit~
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Four databa~es \Viill)~ us~d, with Hiniteq access to eacb,
Only the finard~tab~se 'Yill re-rI{ain.afl:.er th~'studyis co;Uplete. It will be owned by
the Chinese and will NOT contain~ny linkage~to individuals..
o~iy th6~~ dU~iri.1~~gepartThe costs for ethics review were liz of
p;oposed
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substantial amount of work done by Otto W'onfi"& R...ich Irops to a.ddress the cqncerns
raised by the ethics workgroup. . ' . . . . .
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Consortium Formation Issues
Concern about Spy Plane Incident
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Dr. Fu is also concerned with this issue (The follQ~ingis an excerpt of an e-mail
from Dr. Fu to Otto after the call):
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"I was really glad to hear the good progress of the project from you. I am
concerning and worry about the relationship of Sino-US. In my side it would not
affect our collaboration anymore. So I am waiting for the final decision ... "
Possibly discuss this with Chinese officials in DC Will be brought up and discussed on the May 3rd call.
Other Issues:
Otto met Dr. Xu (the Chinese bio-ethicist) last month, who has been helping with review of the consent forms.
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Patrick received confirmation from Dr. Xu on his acceptance of the proposal for compensation ($2,500).
Protocol Review
Good agreement that the protocols are being reviewed over again outside the
development process
It was proposed to get NCI, EPA and/or other regulatory agencies involved in the
review; it will give the studies more weight with agencies
ACTION ITEM (George Woodall): Need to get written comments from reviewers, response to comments etc. from 18t round. The previous reviewers were:
Dick Albertini (OeQetic Toxicologist, U of Vermont); Nancy Mueller
(Epidemiologist, Harvard); Richard Larson (Hematogist/Oncologist, U Chicago);
Elizabeth pelZel (Epidel,1liologist Uof Alabama, Epidemiologist)
ACTION "ITEM (George Woodall): Need to make sure to document this 2nd set of
review~'~n~ pfov~de anffo~.9se.d ti~eline for .c~mpleti~n.
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.Imtial plaQ.for 2/ r9tmd IS to' have 4 ongmal reVIewers (world class sCIentIsts,
rerriove(jfrom.theproc~s~) to db a review prior to IRB review by the Prinicpal
Investigator:s otganizati04s
.., . Six weeksapticipatedfoI'review / .
Issueofgetiinggov'ttlgency to also rev:iew /
Raises tl,leissqeofpropeflevel o.fiJarticipa,.,tion for NGOs & agencies (The
model cif having.a stakeholder group>is 'Yell as the Qversight committee was
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How to approach t4~.iss~e? Th~ycol}ld participate as aformal member of the
committee, or provide th,em with a qlore .informal reyiewof t4e protocols prior
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Depends on proper discipliU"~ rept~sehted.by agerjey p~?sonnel a~d Qn how the
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EfIt was suggested to approach A & WHO for possib..le parti2ipapts; IARC
may also be a consideration (Patrici~ Buffler, Dean..ofthe..SchoolofPublic
Health, UC Berkeley)
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Need to determine how this review process wiUhe c.onstructed (parameters)
prior to deciding on who to ask. Shell woul(rathe{have adverse comments
early rather than late in the game.
Responses to comments need to be handled by the PI's, but an issue of who has
"final say." PI's need to take the comments into consideration, but do not need to
accept all comments.
ACTION ITEM (George WoodalllPatrick Beatty): Draft a proposed outline for
the process steps for scientific review
This outline should also be reviewed by the Ethics Review Workgroup
Guidelines for reviewers: What is expected, how it will be processed, how it
impacts the project
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Contract Issues ACTION ITEM (Member Companies): All companies should send comments on the draft contract to George Woodall by May 1
Consortium Administration What is API's role in Administrating the project?, concerns with document management and segregation of documents (not necessarily only attorney/client privilege) All documents should go through API's OGC or other counsel prior to release The cost for outside counsel would be part of the $lM communications budget. All funding man.agement, invoicing, budgets, legal review of documents (by API counsel), tracking and archiving documents, oversight and administrating, etc.
would be c<:YV~red in the5% administrative charge in the proposed budget
Questiollbn he.wIng API}as ad.lTIinistrator and also as a member of the consortium is a non-issue sihce two separate parts of API (Subscription Research and Benzene TaskForcc::( respectively) Will perform these functions.
Legal reYiew L lawyer should l1ot change a document but needs to understand the . qocumertt contr91pr&ess ./ .
Cost Control . '
Basic conce.rn of cOsts esd.Iat1~g in. th~ fu.ture/ The reason\he.ydid.escalilte bet-ween th~initi~l estimate and the final was that a lot
of up front costs he.l:'Ve b~n inCluded. /ltlflation has"heen bui.1t into the estimate
PI's needs to be are aw~re'that costs.~re fi~ed
Put a "true ceiling" ~d~xpenditures in th~ contracJ:/It wassugges-ted to put a "not
to exceed" percentage where a member c;lrt exit "witp.out pfejudice"if it is
exceeded.
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It was mentioned that a proposalfdrNIH-type funding could be 4!:,ed foy/other
beissues as they come up. Having anm-golng flow of datarnay ldoked upon
favorably by the granting institution. ....
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PI's have been very thorough in looking at the detailS of th~ costs
Availability of Data The issue was sparked by Bill Moyers Special and concern that "burying information" not be a perception with this project "We expect open flows of information" which also works well with having agencies and NGO's as members on the oversight or a stakeholder committee Opposite side of coin is not to release data as they are being collected (interim findings), issues of confidentiality, incomplete data, etc. Paragraph 6 of draft contract (TSCA reporting) was seen as very appropriate
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Draft document not on the web site Only those having a full share will have a vote ACTION ITEM (George Woodall): Provide the detailed draft document on the
web site Exit Strategy
Need to meet all financial obligations, including the 25K to Fudan University (see discussion above)
The individual companies also need to honor their commitments to seed money contributions
There is a cOlpmuni~ation issue on providing a reason "why the consortium did not
go forward" ,if that is the case (done by the communication workgroup)
Next confereric:~ail O~:MaY3,,.3:30 PM EDT
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