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ROGER HOBBIE Page 98 Page 100 1 MR. BARTELS: Thank you. No further 2 questions. 3 MR. QUICK: Anybody else7 4 BY MR. HAFNER: 5 Q Can you please pull up or somebody give Mr. Hobbie 6 Exhibit 10 for me. And do you have that Bates number by any 7 chance? B MR QUICK: It's 012366 through 371. 9 Q Let me see ifI can find it here. I don't think I 10 have it readily handable. Okay. Mr. Hobbie, I apologize for 11 asking you to do this again. What is the date of that letter7 12 A September 25, 1986. 13 Q Is it an interoffice memorandum? 14 A Yes. 15 Q And who is it from? 16 A Jim Clark. 17 Q To who7 18 A Tom Bruggeman. 19 Q It is a multi-page document? 20 A Single page memo with attachments listing a bunch of 21 Eaton part numbers, brake assembles, lining material, brake 22 size. Then there is quantities after that. 2 3 Q Can you read the memo, the first page to me, the 2 4 contents. 25 A Engineering is continuing to investigate 1 International is saying or the internal memo is saying is as 2 far as International is concerned, on this list with these 3 parts numbers attached to this memo, certain of them have 4 asterisks next to them. For those parts, we have to stockpile 5 or keep available asbestos-containing linings for those parts. 6 Is that correct? 7 A I believe that's correct. 8 Q But as far as the ones that do not have asterisks to 9 them, all of these are okay to use nonasbestos materials; is 10 that correct? 11 A Sounds like it, yes, 1 think that's what it is 12 saying. 13 Q Now, looking at those part numbers with the 14 asterisks next to them, is it possible for you to tell, and 15 again I don't have it so I apologize for asking you to do 16 this, the ones with the asterisks, do they appear to be 17 relating to class six, seven, eight trucks, bigger trucks 18 versus smaller trucks? Can you make that distinction based on 19 the information on those pages? 20 A They all look like class eights. There are some 18 21 by 7s which is definitely heavy-duty. 16 and a half by 5s, 2 2 that is heavy-duty steer. No medium duty that I can see. 2 3 They are all on the heavy-duty side. 24 Q When you say that, you mean that the medium duty 2 5 trucks reflected on tire five-page list. International is Page 99 Page 101 1 consequences of announced deadlines for the stoppage of 1 buying from you brake material that does not have asbestos in 2 asbestos production by Abex and Carlisle. Based on the 2 it? 3 attached list, Navistar has requested all current brake 3 A It looks like there is quite a few 16 and a half by 4 assemblies using asbestos linings to be provided via 4 7s that don't have asterisks by them so. . . 5 stockpiling, if necessary, through 1987. 5 Q Unfortunately, I don't have the document in front of 6 Any applications not currently having approved 6 me, what I'm trying to get at, does it appear that the ones 7 nonasbestos materials will require continued supply of 7 that have the asterisks next to them are your bigger vehicles? 8 asbestos products through 1988 while test programs are 8 A Yes. Generally, and I think it is the higher 9 completed. (These brakes are indicated by an asterisk on the 9 friction material. 10 list, the attached list) 10 Q And they would be -- would all of them be air brake 11 Q The difficulty I'm having because I can't easily lay 11 systems, can you tell? 12 hands on the document, is it a multi-page list attached to 12 A Yes. 13 that first page? 13 Q Are there any, the part numbers that do not have 14 A Yes. 14 asterisks, are any of them hydraulic? 15 Q How many pages are there? 15 A No. 16 A Five. 16 Q It was exclusively air brake systems? 17 Q If I understand it correctly, some of the items on 17 A Yes. 18 those five pages have asterisks near them or next to them? 18 MR. HAFNER: That's it 19 A Yes. 19 MR. QUICK: Anybody else? 20 Q If I understand the way you read the memo to me, the 2 0 MR. BARTELS: 1 would like the court reporter 21 ones with the asterisks next to them are the ones that do not 21 to send us both an original with the exhibit as well as an 2 2 have a nonasbestos brake material already approved for that 22 E-transcript. 2 3 part number; is that correct? 23 24 A Yes, 1 believe that is correct. 2 4 (Continued on following page) 25 Q So we are clear, am I correct that what 25 26 (Pages 98 to 101) (800) MERRILL LEGAL SOLUTIONS 325-3376 www.MerrillCorp.com 5cfe6bcd-afe7-469e-b187-b081 ecda30a3