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* Circulation! CX8/DZB egwTAry-TgEO pbopucts copp&ratio* Votee on Dlacuaalone in Ardaore 20th January, 1964 Breeentt Nr. N. Neyer Nr. N. 8. Davlai Nr. X. 1. Lant Nr. 7. J. Durkin Nr. N. f. Sow* 1. 7he currant deaand far A-C pipe a la running at kick laval. If It la maintained, Certaln-teed will require a further 1.000 tana af CAG flbrea In tha proportion of their Initial order. Z aald that there would be ne difficulty about CAG/3 but we night be eoaewhat abort la tha eaaa af CAG/4and CAG/5. Z aaked than te eonflra their additional requlreaenta aa aaen ae paealblo end Nr. tana aald that they ahould be abla te let ua have detalla by about April. They will alee probably require aa additional 500 tone af Crocldollte fibre. Zf at all paealblo, they want te taka thle la TA/X but, If aeceeaary, wa could probably parauade then to taka a further 100 tana or ae af Crlqualaad 83. 2. Nr. Inns haa agreed te their taking 500 tana af Or1qualand S3 laetead of aena tannage af TA/X la their Initial requlranent. Z teld then that tha prlea had been reduced frea 172. 0. Od. to 70. 0. 0d.a f.e.b. They are clearly net keen to take thla grade and' hope wary auch that the additional 500 tana which they will neat probably require, can be TA/X. 3. Zt would appear that their ateoka af CAG gradea are running rather lew and Z euggeeted that they ahould conalder bringing forward aena af their dellverlea to avoid a eerleua eheftage. Nr. Durkin aald that ha would leek Into thie but doubted whether It would ba aeceeaary. 4. Nr. Inna la af the opinion that, while we are eupplyl&g lateat production af CAG/5, we are etlll aupplylng the oldtype CAG/3 and CAG/4| ha realnded no that wa preaieed te lot then have lateat production during the Kaneheater dlecuealone. Z aald that wa would leek Into thla. Xe aald that a recant eenelgnaent af CAG/3 had borne tha fallowing cade narkai- 392| 402| 4l2| 422| 432i No fait that thla Indicated that production want back to 1962, and Z waa aaked ta let than toew tha oignlflcance af tha cede nuabere eo that they weuld be able ta Identify production datea In futir* 7* ?* *k`* tha bage af CAG/3 ware pearly tied and broke In traneit. e eeaelgnnent la quaatlaa waa an tha a.a.'NSXB 1XC73* and waa unloaded, at San " wnciaae_ 1t I 'Tn 9 Bwr n li u raiukl loapltl&t about oontamination f flbro la tho oaamoe teteunUslgtwnaMontt about 100 bag* voro oeakod vith nal X gather that tboy an reporting this to tho shipping company. * 5* Hr. Moyor oald that thoy voro vary pleased with tho pro(rm aov being aado with AC pipes. Thoy believed that thoy voro laeroaolnc tholr oharo of tho total i*C pip* aarkot la vhllo ho thought that AC plpoe voro aov |tlala| a larcor oharo of tho total pipe aarkot. Thoy bollovod that furthor plaato vlll bo aoooooary la tho futuro to aoot tho graving doaaad. 6. Kr. Noyor enquired of Hr. Jhirkla vhat vhoro tho ourroat arrangenont* for paynent. Nr. Durkin oaid that thoy arranged for paynent oa tho 16th day of tho aonth aftor shipment! this had booa roitrlil at a roaooaablo mid-vay point botvoon tho dato of ohlpaont froa Louroneo Karques and dato of arrival at thoir plant. Nr. Noyor appoalod to ua to front.thoa a slightly longer tlao for payaoat, (c claiming that thoy voro at proaont hard proaood to oovor tho financial requirements of tholr plaat development*. Xt vao agreed that Hr. Durkin vould calculate tho average tlao taken for ohlpaente to arrive at tho plant durine 1963. to aoo vhothor a slightly later payaoat dato vould bo equitable. Vhen ho ha* don* thl* ho vlll vrlto to T.A.F.Ltd. giving thoir proposal* in respect of aov torn*. 7. Nr. Noyor stressed tho laportaaco of 1*C pipe nsnufactwe to Cortaia*t*od. since It vas tho one produet of any Importance vhleh vas not related to tho 0.6. building Industry. Xt vas therefore a valuable hedge against any recession in that Industry. Xo said that they voro alvays interested in developing aov produets of vhleh vo alght hoar, particularly if tboy voro also omtsido the building field. Thoy are seriously contemplating the oroetloa of plants in certain South American and Central American countries and also oa tho lelaad of Okinava. They vould probably laatal pip* plants in any sueh countries, and X gathered Nr. Lana vas seriously interested In tho possibility of using a machine capable of producing Votb pip* and ohoots* Nr. Lana also told no that thoy are considering an extruded AC notorial vhleh vould b* need in the construction of prefabricated houses. This appears to bo in tho very early stags* and in any ease X vas told that this development vould only call for very abort Canadian fibres. 6. Nr. Noyor gave no a espy of a report vhleh Nr. Xuteheroft had recently prepared oa tho use of asbestos fibres in read building. X am passing a aopy to Nr. F. F. Smith. kth/av 3. a.6k N. F.. MOVE X4 wee0 4 virftutvw rcr* xrs/czB/nra/MH turners asbestos fibres iimites Meeting with Mr. R. L. Ians ud Mr. M. S. Davis of Certain-teed Product* Corporation la Manchester oa 24th April 1964 lf-(* Certaln-teed' stocks of Afrlou grades h*vt recently boon aueJi doplotod by (a) high production, duo to buoyant demand, and (b) dolaya la tranalt froa Africa to tbo U.S. Voat Coast and Gulf porta. Soaaad la oxpectsd to roaaia buoyant and Certaln-teed not only aood aora fibre this year but alao will lnoroaao tbolr rooantly given longtora ootlaato, at loaat for 1965* Apart froa thooo gradea now la uao, Aabcctoa e^.fitinn j.vs gradaa. 6 and ^ n < to Cortala-toad far production of lov-pressuro plpoa, and Mr. Lana aakc Mr. Hovo to *""*< ** *** 1 r, ><* * *n situation. Boarlae la alnd that to bo oeonoale ouch gradaa dhould not eoat Cortaln-tood aoro than 4$ aoata par lb. dallvorod or about C32 par abort ton (freight froa Africa to C.l.f. U.S. Atlantic porta la 129.29, plua 19.75 to Saa Fraaclaco). Mr. baas knave RAD/Y but doubta if It U1 suit; Cacalar AY la Interacting and atUl under trial, but what appeal to hla are certain Aebeotoa Corporation 6'a (particularly Normandy EX-349) of vhlch the Hat price la Caa.16S.00 F.o.e. Mlnea. Caaalar AD la too dear. Mr. Lean aakod about "CAG/6* and Z aald aanploa of a nov typo of Shabaale Shortc vould bo cent to bln aeon. Aa Mr. Lean vaa eloarly concerned about stack cover I cold va vore studying the long-tors blda already node and welcomed the increased demand; la view of Inevitable fluctua tions la sine output It would bo an advantage froa cur point of view if Cortaln-tood would ooaaldor other grades than CAG but so far this year Z aald output of CAS gradaa vac up. Hr. lane said ho vaa not necessarily against HVX, grades and had a good recollection of VRA before It vaa split Into VRA/G and VRA/X. Of 81ue ho said the ardor remained (l) TA/S, (2) TA/L, (3) Gofea S, but ho vould bo latorootod to re-examine BT/AJ>. Za view of current heavy demand for both CAG/U and HVL/4, Z did not dwell an these but offered for 1964 another 500 tons of CAG/3 and 1.000 tons CAG/5. Mr. tans was rather critical of CAG/3, suggesting It contained too such longs and shorts and not enough middle; Z said vo wore Improving it for A-C manufacture by segregating the spinning fibre elements and stressed that wo must keep to the principle of supplying 'across the board*. Mr. Lanx will arrange for orders to bo sent to us by Hay 18th and those vlll Include 10 tons of BVX./5 for trial; the 1,000 tons of CAG/5 are to bo ahlpped la Juno, July and August (which Z aald should bo possible), but there was come reluctance about CAG/3 and Z vendor If tbo real problem here (although It vaa not discussed) la not prleo, bearing la alnd that Certain-teed pay mare for CAG/3 than for Cessiar AX and, although Cortaln-tood are taking more CAG/3 than any Eternlt Company, that they are paying substantially more than the Eternlt normal prleo, vis. Cortaln-tood Urallta Eternlt. A.G. ?erlin 3,220 tana C7>. 8. Od. i U2m * *d-(a,t) * r*Mtly been mueh d*yi*t*d by (t) high prtduttlcB, dvw*t * buytat demand, and (b) delays la transit frea Africa te tba C.S. Vest Coast and Gulf parts. Demand la expected te reaala buoyant and Certain-teed aot only need acre fibre tbla year but also will increase their reeaatly given laagtera estimate, at least far 1965. 2. ^ ky Apart frea t&oae grades aev la use, Aihma "*<"" l*v* grades 6 and 7 **** ** to Certain-teed rer productlea of lew-pressure pipes, sad Mr. Lana cake Hr. Hove te -- -n altuatlon. bearing la alad that te be seencalc such grades should aot east Certala-teed sere idea seats per lb. delivered or about <32 per abort tea (freight frea Africa to C.l.f. U.S. Atiaatle porto lo 129.23, plus 59.75 to Sea Francisco). Mr. Ians kaovs XAS/Y but doubts If it will suit! Casslar AY la Interesting sad otlll uader trial, but what appeals to bin ares, certain Aabeoteo Corporation I'a (particularly Voraandy EC-349) of which the Hat price lo Caa.186.00 F.e.c. Mines. Casslar AS la too dear. Mr. Lean asked about *CAC/6* sad Z said aaapleo of a aov typo of Shabaalo Shorts would bo coat to hla soon. 3. As Hr. Lana vao clearly oeaeemed about stock cower c Z said wo were studying tho long-ten bids already node aad velcoaed the Increased demand) la view ef Inevitable fluctua tions la alas output It would bo an advantage frea cur point of view If Certala-teed would consider other grades than US but so far tbla year Z said output of CAG grades true up. Mr. Lean said be was aot aeoeesarlly against BVL grades aad bad ' a good recoil ectloa of VPA before It was split late VPA/C aad VPA/X. Of Blue be said the order reaalaed (l) TA/X, (2) TA/L, (3) Gefeo S, but bo would bo Interested to ro-exaaiae BT/A. 4. Za view of current heavy deaaad far both CAG/4 aad HVL/4, Z did not dwell oa these but offered for 1964 another 500 tons of CAG/3 aad 1,000 toaa CAG/5. Mr. Laas was rather critical ef CAG/3, suggesting It contained too Buck longs aad shorts aad aot enough alddloi Z said we were Improving it far A-C aanufecture by segregating the spinalng fibre eleaeats aad stressed that we Bust keep to the principle of supplying *aoross the board*. Mr. laao will arrange for orders to be seat to us by May 18th aad those will include 10 teas of HYL/3 for trial) the 1,000 toes ef CAO/J are to be shipped la Juae, July aad August (which Z said should be possible), but there was seas reluctance about CAG/3 and Z wonder If the real preblea here (although It was aot discussed) la aot price, bearing la Bind that Certala-teed pay acre for CAG/3 than for Casslar AX aad, t although Certala-teed are taking acre CAG/3 than any Xtsrnlt Company, that they are paying substantially aore than the Eteralt aorsal price, vis. Certala-teed T&rallta Steralt, A.G. Berlin (all ether Steralt Co's are taking less than 1,000 teas) 3,220 tons 174. 8. 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