Document 2jjZLzqVR6wzR3OwvJ8OX9noN

r Stokinger 75 BY MS. MINTZER: Q. Dr. stokinger, was Dr. Schwartz an employee of the United States Public Health Service A . Yes. Q . -- in 1949? A. Um-hum. Q . And were you an employee at that time? A. Ho, I was still on the Manhattan Project. MS. MINTZER: Please give me two minutes to take a break? (Shor t recess .) BY M S . MINTZER: Q . Did there come a time, doctor, when you became aware that the Diamond Alkali or Diamond Shamrock. Corporation had difficulty with chioracne? A. No, I didn't. Q. And did there become a time when you became aware that the Dow Chemical Company had chioracne problems in the manufacture of 2,4,5-T? A. I guess I must have heard that from V. K . Rowe. -Q. And do you recall when it was that Dr. Row told you that? A. Well, I don't know as he told me, personally, but he may have -- you know, he made frequent waaa andsoinelli certified shorthand reoorters S t o k ing er 76 presentations before the American Industrial Hygiene Association annual meetings and it may have come out in one of those meetings. Q. And can you tell me when that was? A. Well it was sometime subsequent to 1954. Q. Subsequent .to *54. And can you tell me -- can you put it as to when it was -- A. No I couldn't say--* Q. Was it before any particular period that you can recall? A. No, but you must know that at that period in time, companies were reluctant to admit to any health injury or hazard in the plant. It was only in later years that they came clean with the information. Q. But you do recall Dr. Rowe talking about the cnloracne problem in the Dow plant? A. Yes. Q. And was that while you were still at the Cincinnati facility? A . Oh, yes . Q. So that it would have to be before what date, again, *77? i A . Oh, yes . Q. You're sure it was -- u/nnn n n d *11*1 certified shorthand reporters Stokinger 77 A. It was way before *70, even. Q. Kay before *70? / A. O h , sure Q. Would it have been in the aid-sixties, is that A . Could be, yes. That would be a reasonable time. Q. And do you recall what it was that Dr. Rowe told the meeting about the chloracne problem at Dow in the mid-sixties? A. Oh, if he said anything about it, he would have just mentioned that this was a common occurrence if you had overexposure to the material. But presumably, not unless it exceeded the recommended threshold limit. Q. Okay. Do you recall, doctor, that might help in terms of a time frame, do you recall whether you learned about the Dow chloracne problem after the 1962 threshold limit? A. Yes, I'm sure of that,yes. Q. Was it -- so that it was after the proposed limit. Was it after the -- or was it before the final limit or the permanent limit was set? A I would say it was about that time, yes, '66 or somewhere -- *65- *66. IK ^ A r 4ifiA<H e h r t r i h n n H r A P \r tr to r c