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FILE NAME Manville JMA DATE 1957-1966 DOC JMA322 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION Meeting Minutes - Quebec Asbestos Mining Association Minutes Sete BB ETE a. = Ee en ae 0 VTE ENK pet! a LEN SO 13 rep me we gmtaee wegen, AAT SY EO ORR aS AOEay ow an ae ie 2 c Miners Certificates - The enlargement of the Thetford Industrial Clinic has been completed and nations are pro- ceading accordintgo plan d building building Mine Rescue Stations The station at Thatford has been completed the equipment delivered and the local personnel trained The question of training the crews from Geap^'Copper Mines will have to be settled after the conclusion of the strike there . new to e Merit Rating - Nothing report The mula rete for 1956 was 5.00 the minimum 0.25 and the provisional rete for 1957 has been set at 2.00 f Meinture Poundation It was suggested that the association should establish closer liaison at the medical leval with the In the absence such liaison would ing to pneumoconiosis McIntyre Foundation with respect to their amouncements pertain- of it appear likely that their statements of either & general or a specific nature dealing with previoconiosis might be misconstrued and injustly effect the objections of the association Regular xchange of information would obviate this difficulty 3. KINS TAXATION , a Bill 44 ~ Amendment to the Quebec Cormoration Tax Act Mr. Penhale confirmed that although the regulations under the Act had yet to be published the Controller of Proxi Revenue had casured him that taxable income would be computed in accordance with prevailing rules for the Federal Income Tax Act If this is to be the case it will require changes in the provisions for depreciation and depletion allowances to which Mr. Shink agreed He also agreed that 100 of the dutien payable . under the Quebec Mining Act would be allowed as a deduction from taxable income which again differs from the Federal rugu- lations Exploration expenses will be allowed and income from new mines will be exempt from tax in the same manner as provided for under Section 83 5 of the IncTo axm Anet b Sales Tax - It was reported that Pelocations Limited had been assessed the full 56 Provincial Mnic andi Schp oola Sal les . Taxes on its purchases instead of 20 of the tax exigible companies normally applies to the taxable purchases of zining companies rations of the parent mining company- St^,peare being taken to appeal this ruling to the Comptroller of Provincial Revenue r iiat care! tr Ot ene pa T uP = ~ See pont eT ae ar : ag aarp seme v. ee: Pa _ 4. TRANSPORTATION wcoernreeasleosdgferdoman1d3s.p2i0nninbtgeofnieobdnrweill prove from the a sufficient deterre~-k Association The American railroads have revived the question of establishing rate on asbestos crre and spinning fibre although a higher been cefected on this paint before the I.C.C. they have alreedy of the Railroads held The Official Classification mistse earlier this month on the subject and this hearings most of the major asbestos conZUMOTO was represented together with in the United States Strees proteste against this it is a of such new rates which would if published ttaoidpiunbgliCchaatriloontte N.C. as & destination for example meen in- a crude on LCL lots to 4.40 a ton carloads of A cecision Railroads on this matter is not likely before Septemberwoiufld then be sus- these rates will be protested to the 1.C.C. of another I & S Docket pended and presumably become the subject b The following reductions in ocean freight rates have bem ae; gotiated Sweltenham 1 FAR EAST Penang Singapore & Port ; per ton - 2,000 lbs . Former Fate New Pr P. Rates H.Pr. P. Rates Groups 6 & 7 11.75 36-75 41.75 Rates for Bangkok plus 5.50 11 FAR EAST Calcutta Bombay Karachi Colombo per ton - 2,240 lbs Group 3 Groups & & 5 Groups & 7 | $58-00 $3 ' 53 @ 45.00 13.00 40.00 50.00 . - 48-00 45.00 : It was agreed that wherever possible differential ocean freight . rates on pressure packed fibre should be established without 5. There was socks disscuesst iot n l ase otnommte ehmen beet rfsfecltaboofurAlcuomnitrraamctCsompIatnymst"rike and its probable in the United States the indicated pattern of m" increasiencrease increase is % - rently be made with respect to removing asbestos Questionnaire om Stiming questionnaire prepared by rently designed to elicit Fibre for U.S. Government - This the U.S. Bureau of Kines was appa information from which a decision from the cri- that a Committee composed tical materials list It was agreed should take up this of k^,ssreG.W. Smith and J.k. Marcotte Government officials appromiste Canadian to the mathe matter with the their recommendations as with a view to getting of dealing with this matter in Mr. Kelleher advised that the ". b Stockpiling Spinning Pibres - further expenditure of tuo U.S. Government had authorized a Arizona Spinning fibre the million dollars for stockpiling of encouraging the U.S. government are apparently in favour Shasta Valley of development of the aissbensotoqsuedsteiponosofit the California There fibre at this time. consultants waa circulated report from the Association's MEMBERSHIP MEMBERSHIP REVISION OF THE QUEBEC MINING ACT 9. REVISION OF THE Ketal of the Quebec . have been held with the representatives Mining Association and progress was reported JOINT PROVINCIAL MINING ASSOCIATION is scheduled for September 3rd of the J.P.M.A. expect to attend and The next meetingKesers Lindell and Penhale in Vancouver should provide an. the Association This occasion will represent . oe, opportunity meet the new Federal Minister of Mines to of the new draft laws i In the absence of counsel's approval be adopted in principle and that the was agreed that they should under the new organization pending su Association should operate approval 12. D DATE & PA LACE OFT NEXT NE EETH The next meeting will be held at the call of the chair 13. There being no further business the meeting terminatai ICC . - oo nmafip a Lipa a Semi ele wes ce en erat me PMN 8 0 ee - te eens teens : Source Source Source Source : Source Source Source Source CET POTS - - oe - Mine Jeffrey Mine Jeffrey Jeffrey Mine " Jeffrey 6 te eg meee ee amen on r ee + ene MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE QUEBEC ASBESTOS KIKING HELD AT CASTLE HARBOUR ASSOCIATION HOTEL BEKMUDA on NOVEMBER Nessrs C. B. Burnett I. C. Campbell M. P. Carson D. T. Colton A. B. Cummins Y. F. Hodgson G. F. Jenkins A. S. Johnson Jr. K. V. Lindell J, A. Kain R. Hackney N. W. Hendry A. L. Penhale I. Sabouria V. E. Soltar The President Mr. Karl V. Lindell vas in the chair Minutes of the special meeting of March 23rd were adopted Coppittes Reporti aft reo- Safetz meeting of September 10th it was At the Sherbrooke with Dr. Cartier ommended that the dust engineer consult ^ s a result of on the locations for taking dust counts it is not these discussions it has been determined that The but the method of sampling a question of locations is not accep- as used by our Association midget impinger leads to disagreezent disagreezent table by some countries and this on dust counts brief on accident prevention directed Copies of a C.H.A. C.H.A. the for to the Quebec Provincial Government propospirnegviously been mation of a Superior Safety Council have bavo Kembers of our Association supplied to our directors Metal Mining of the Quebec met with representatives will not endorse the Accident Prevention Association who that the it in any way It is emphasised brief or support established by the mines come under safety regulations want to maintain of Natural Resources and we Department . the status quos meeting has been called to discuss their proposal supporting it by the and we C.M.A. for will go on . November 6th record . as , not . : on se pag ons oh pac E TM Sz 5 : EE STATES og tap at 8 * PTF EOE Ste eigen TT ng mE _ azvies e Safety - Cont'd - Publicity has been given recently through newspaper channels connecting Asbestos with cancer Dr. Cartier is watching developments closely and counsel is asked to consider methods to be initiated by the Association if necessary Counsel has been to defend our position asked altho to release the results incidence of cancer in of the 1958 Symposium asbestos workers in Russia is not available Forkgia's Compensation Nothing new to report Public Relationa ^ Fublic Rulations Report 1962-2 prepared by Editorial Associates Ltd was distributed of the ' Producer It is recommended that the publication be continued and discussion be held with Kr Knott toward developing & more aggressive program Sone members have not yet signed labor contracts delay resulting from job evaluation negotiations the at certain mines have been cut back to a five Operations . day week of the Canada Continental East Bound Freight A proposal This proposal would establish Conference was distributed scale of rates depending on volume The a sliding should be on Association stand is that the sliding scale basis and not on individual companies > an associatiTohnis will be discussed at a Conference meeting shipments during the week of November 5th Legislation It is proposed prepare a brief on Taxatios seconded and carried that the Association for submission to the Royal Commissios : ane nce nner _- ; a Sear ee EE Se eee we TOE . TIE I eee: ee OL SO tn RR . 1 } a nw, Technical This committee sub committees or improvement meet each continues to working continually on of tests two the months with development Bauer XcNett has requested bulletin which they issue permission to to customers test method This is granted include i the Q.A.N. Q.A.N. that screens for the Quebec It is reported being supplied are Test Machines presently will be referred standard This complaint . Standard not always to the supplier Liai9s.o kkn. of the has been held with representatives One meeting to discuss a proposed Quebec Netal Mining aLsasboocriaCtoiuoncnil as referred to earlier brief re a Superior . : in the minutes for November at which Public ^further meeting is planned Relations will be discussed as one iten issued on October 24th Latest inspector's reports is increasing Number of off grade fibre shipments meeting To be reviewed at the next regular steadily Research Testing Laboratorz annual operating budget for Mr. Pare bas prepared an calls for the following expenditurest the laboratory which Administration salaries Operating services Capital expenditures etc. 44,030,00 4,225.00 5.379.00 5.379.00 53,634,00 , recommendation of the Committee this budget is to proc On the It is planned and hoped possible approved 3 encharges of samples within a 12 month period Proposed seconded and carried 150,60 p.a be granted to the effective September 1st 1962 that rate increases of technicians in the laba . om - ane re ce em onsen I 1 neal a ata eg En at CONE Sty Meth sects AS AE DT Py nes LR CT Bez, , . aOR cccerqere yt TUTE Mise Seem meet nae 1 Op, BOTA EM FO reelone 2 Research Testing Laboratory Cont'd Some of the lab technicians have voiced the desire to take night classes at the University i. mathematics physics chemistry etc. The director attempted to : enroll them on a no charge basis but this was rejected , by University authorities The tuition fee is 200.00 Noved sodonded and adopted that the Association contribute to successful students from 50 to 100 of warks achieved the fees based on the percentagoef . ^t present there are 5 addition being sought technicians employed with on ; . | q cp pee Copies of a new test methods progran by Dr. A. B. Cummins were distributed It is fibre fibre believed that there might be new business for in the plastic field It is felt that asbestos is not now used due to lack of tensile strength as compared to glass and sisal . poe A tentative appointment has been made by Dr. Cummins; for November 14th to discuss with the Fatertown Manufacturing Coy a plastic evaluation program Follow- ing such discussion Watertown will submit a program on- ; a contract basis 4: It is taken moved seconded and adopted off the short time test 24 that Dr. Collins be hours and hire an ed ; additional technician to work on this at the Sherbrooke Laboratory under the direction of Dr. Collins Dr. Collins has associated with indicated that he would like to become the Asbestos industry on a permanent basis Estimated cost of carrying in Dr. Cummins report is out various tests as outlined Salaries Fellowships Travelling Herty Foundation Initial Estimate complete program > Plastics & Tile - Textile . $ 65,000.00 10,000,00 40,000.00 rn 115,000.00 me el gig S ET art om1 cle weiglaliees Ar anced te we re Pek arte ta eth Cre eens e. atspian aTa bYleSt one Ee e * eee ^djournment Pans + . ~ . a ve Ste 3 ee eo _~ be 4 sce MINUTES OF THE 89TH MEETING OF THE QUEBEC ASBESTOS MINING ASSOCIATION HELD ON WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 14TH 1964 . AT THE ST GEORGE'S CLUB SHERBROOKE P.Q. Present Messrs R.J. Messel J.O. Eby R.S. Coleman P.A. Reyer A.L. Ceo Penhale. W. Smith I.C. Campbell R. Hebron F.P. C.F. Hodgson Jenkins R.J. Merrill L.O. Montpetit W.M. Bughtred C.A. Pich^' F.P. Smith C. I. Robinson Sabourin P.-A. Filteau The president meeting of May Mr. M.J. Kessel occupied 25th 1964 were adopted the chair Minutes of the Technical Committe meeting The chairman chairman reported that the last of the committee was held in Asbestos on September 22nd He reviewed the work | . . in progres88 a Dyckerhoff Calibrating Standards- Better correlation between results obtained by members and those of the Sherbrooke Laboratory is under study b Oil Absorption - The kerosene retention procedure a is approved in principle c Freeness - A revised procedure to be issuad d Accelerated 5.U. Test - Further data being accumulated e A.C. Silica Mixes - Work should be completed before the end of the year Wg ASME aa FEROS Oar Par er Na og SE WA oe al eee et ele % aS > | Je - t - . . ee Std a ee 7 - re rg hal Pe 02- f Sag Cake Test and Plasticity Index - It appears , that the test has possibilities for the measurement of wet strength 9 Wet Volume - An amended procedure has been accepted .- h Modified Q.S. Test - Test work completed end date under study - There is some laboratory time i Sherbrooke Laboratory available for use by committees Requests should - be made through the chairman of the Technical Committes Suter for clearance with the directors ) Kew Turner Procedures - & report on the Webb method will be presented at the next meeting of the Technical Committee This meeting to be held on November 16th next ATI was meeting October discussed and it 8th was and 9th The new Fibre Testing Manual decided that its size would remain the issued same as before 8 ^ 11 in bound volume form and also in seperate individual tests A digest of the with tests identified by numbers Deadline manual will be for approved material . is the next ATI meeting February 10 11 and 12 1965 The chairsan edvised that Mr. Lincoln Research Director of the Turner Fibre Laboratory has developed a maghetic rating equipment at a low price Asbestos Cement Products of 200 He also advised that the Association has changed its name to , Mineral Fibre Products Bureau Uniform Classification and Grading Since last meeting two have been distributed inspector shipping test reports by the Fifty grade samples have been sent to the Sherbrooke Laboratory Following explanations given _ + nem asi sann 98 igo: AA ir Lit nn OOS RS ie PRET, sree Pare teee . er -3- ng te by the chairman of the committee concerning Fr. J. Par^' recent visit up to to asbestos plants in 200 be paid by CAMA France to Mr. it was moved that an amount Par^' for certain legitimata travelling expenses Adopted The new wage scale for technicians at the Sherbrooke University : ane which was adopted at the special meeting of July 30th will cost a the Association some 3,150 on a total of 23,600 in salaries ere _ The base rate has been increased from 3,600 to 4,200 . sae eaten It was moved and adopted that a prize of 50 be ewarded to one em of Par^''s students who is preparing a thesis on asbestos in Ae dtaimntol ae concrete following submission of the outline of his thesis as e e accepted by the University otal Mr. Paz^' may become a member of the A.S.T.E. committes on available seis asbestos fibre but any work there is to be done in the coins laboretory must be approved by the directors The time + at the Sherbrooke Laboratory following completion of S.U. Test dime women oa for fifth exchange will be devoted to increased work on acceler- eted S.U. Test and the rate of reaction as a harshness test Minionos Following the receiving of a request from Heribert Hiendl of a mee Hagelstadt Germany it was suggested that the General Manager ee write to Mr. Hiendl and suggest that he wait until the ATI Allee manual comes out before making any inclusion in a book he is ce RRA writing on the operation of AC machines The J.T. Donnell & 0 e Company assaying consultants in Montreal have asked to have ote some testing work done for them on a shipment ? It was ty agreed that such 10 - 25 and test could be rade at without accepting any a specified fee responsibility 5 - Results ' eR to be in records accessible to CAMA The purchase of a Meta eget: BoWe filter for the Sherbrooke Laboratory at a pricoef 2,000 was proposed and approved An emount of 1,027.was also approved for the changes made for walls doors etc. at the Sherbrooke Leb in order to provide for acuitional space required Mr. E. Mackhool of the Ottewa Law Firm will submit a report on their recommendations concerning the four patent applications submitted by the Association It seems that the scnic patent is doubtful the other three will require patent applications The brief requesting from Ottawa research assistance in connection with testing and certain applications of asbestos fibre was reviewed and commented It was moved and adopted that the brief be submitted on October 15th at a meeting with the Minister of Mines and Tehnical Surveys and some of his senior officials as already mutually arranged that on this occasion Rr H.M. Woodrooffe will It was indicated submit on behalf -. of his section a list of areas for investigation to supplement te the QAMA request . wi Industrial Relations The report of the dust control engineer was circulated The chairman reported on his recent visit to the Quebec Work men's Compensation Commission with Messrs W.H. Soutar and P.A. Filteau The group met primarily with the assessors and the treasurer of the Commission to enquire about certain problems and the merit rating system With regards to the merit system the group was told that in addition to the actual cost rate minimum 0.35 maximum 4.50 there is also a mutual rate | which is meant to operate upwards or downwards on the total Dee. sts tp eens nates TOE a TOD tepielt cee Gin gaceng. EES Sipe maim 9h -- pedantic : > DAS GSR A Sit pms BLK assessment depending whether the group experiences a surplus or a deficit at the end of a given year This explains the recent assessment of 0.20 per 100 salary imposed to all the members because of the experience of last year In the case of permanent partial disetility cases or down during the first three year adjustments can be period and credits made up or debits are charged against individual employers Since December 1963 the ruling in the case of death is the same for P.P.D. compensations as for ceses of asbestosis or silicosis refund is made to the employer when there is a balance left in the capitalized fund but a the capitalized fund be charge is made to the employer should insufficient to take care of the widow and the children if any The commissioners also mentioned certain abuses reporting . , of accidents brought to their attention and they express their intent to discuss in the near future a case where safety . contest might have resulted in the reporting of an accident The committee is arranging a wage survey which will range of companies It would seem that the Union is to negotiate the next contract at an early date cover a wide not ready Traffic The chairman reported that no regular meeting had been held with the various shipping conferences However it seems quite likely that rate increases will take plece A Canadian conference has been formed for the Australian Zealand trade . . ti ae. mse . weet? . . . RrS or 9 TNE? b oee , m : yee aad TEE oe SS -6- Legislation and Taxation The Central Manager submitted a form to report taxes dues etc. paid by the member companies during the year The data to be kept confidential and to be used for the total industry only The information will be collected through Riddell Stead Graham & Hutchison The new Mining Act is expected to come down early at the next session and the purchase power that it might be appropriate mining industry infects then to stress in the economic community We were also advised that the Belanger Commission was expected to meet with officials of Department of Natural Resources to make sure that both are in agreement concerning recommandations to be made to the Provincial Cabinet A copy of the recently proposed Provincial Pension Plan was tabled and its main features explained It was agreed that copy should be sent to each director Public Relations The chairmen explained that his committee had discussed the merits of arranging for the publication of Asbestos Producer through the Quebec office versus the Public Relations consultant as is presently being done It was the consensus of opinion that although some saving might be achieved by making this change other factors to continue under the seem to present indicate that it would be best arrangement and that Edites should be asked to reduce their cost During the coming Canedian Ski Chempionship to be held in Thetford in 1965 Editas will provide public relations counsel to enro asa r eb ep . FE ne sea ceMSR aR CNR, ros ir rn ae Lae EAE mpage ae ETS emattheare S98 ae ee Te -7- ~~ Cee the Thetford Ski Club.having Club.having in mind the promotion of favorable public relations for the industry.- It was agreed that possibly sponsor a of Station CKLD in the Thetford asbestos mining companies would ten minute news broadcast over the facilities Thetford Zines three times a week at a cost of approximately 23.00 a week The industry could have access to this medium of communication for specific announcements of its own The chairman to discuss the conditions for this project with the companies operating in the Thetford area In the cese of requests for information on the general health of the industry from news sedie its agreed that such could be channeled through the General Fane^er who will then consult with the Presidenotn any statement to be made It was suggested that copies of the article of the wall Street Journal on the Canadian asbestos industry which appeared in October 9th issue should be sent to each member company It was moved and adopted that an amount of 200 be turned over to the representative of Editas on his way shortly to the United Kingdom to cover certain travelling expenses involved when calling on local asbestos manufacturers for information on the need for export of ram asbestos fibre from Canada A model for a GAMA crest certain modifications be was submitted it was recommended made to the design submitted that The proposal submitted by Mr. of aerial photographs of each George wining Hunter concerning the taking property was put off for decision until next spring wovedat a 2 cad oe Te at : wane le as Tae tooo ; . SN Se rekageg SEEM ARINC IT SEES Expo '67 are completed printing is awaiting The brochure and the art work decision of Expo officials . industry pavilion has been prepared . A new design for an asbestos structure would contain an exhibit by the architect This its extraction and descriting the origin of the mineral Such an the uses and products made of asbestos processing end the services of an exhibit would require imagination the matter industrial designer Prior to pursuing cost experienced to ask the architect fora further it was decided any In the meantime the General Manager estimate of his new design to the plot of to hold on until next meeting is to endeavour land reserved on the Expo site organized of the Expo site was for On September 25th a visit Canada - ett of the mining industry throughout the representatives of the Canadian the visit the executive director Following industry as Association indicated that the mining - Metal Mining in Expo '67 and that it was left to such will not participate their participation in the individual companies to decide on this event i General Manager Report the General Manager touched touched only Because of the heavy agenda during the past month briefly on certein of his activities A copy of his report is attached o> 4. of the reply of Honorable Benidickson Also attached is a summary of Canada at the end . to the brief submitted to the Government of Aines . of the Provincial Ministers of of the 20th Annual Conference ab eee t) os : x cn are COATF: FORT 2 OI :. sheen) yarns a -9- -9- NEW BUSINESS QAMA Treasurer Accounts EDITAS payable ratified as follows Account for ; May June July August September 5,350.44 5,350.44 5,350.44 5,350.44 5,350.44 $ 26,752.20 Visit of Russian Asbestos Mines thief Russia The President gave a review of his recent visit to | The group of fou Clan Clan asbestos industry representatives were well received and visited the industrial complex located _ at Asbest in the Ural Fountains The Russian output is estimated at some 1,430,000 metric tons of fibre annually which is somewhat greater than the Canadian production A new mill Mill No. 6 is almost ready to go into production Two new deposits are Kazakhastan presently being developed One st Kiambi with a potential annual capacity of 250,000 tons and one in Mongolia with a capacity of 600,000 tons operations There is however no connection between the Asbeat and the new projects In general the Soviet asbestos industry appears to be behind in quality control The visitors were shown in their leboratories an electrical methotdo measure fibre ' content and also a device to measure moisture content It would seem that at present Russia is exporting relatively less oe feng Ay en tee nT OE ner BETES0 Na ere een NA to the European countries however exports substantially should it be it could at any time increase convenient in its economic and political battle with the West Conference on Biological Effects of Asbestos It was pointed out at the ATI meeting in New York that recent publicity on the subject of biological effects of asbestos were somewhat sensational and could have far reaching and damaging effects on not only the asbestos products manufacturers but also directly on the asbestos mining industry It was remarked that such discussions should be kept strictly on a medical level since they refer to the cases of disability only and do not cover all aspects of the industry It was moved end adopted that a contribution be made to the New York Academy of Sciences towerds cost involved in sponsoritnhge above Conference A maximum amount of $ 5,000 is allocated and final recommendation to be made to the President following attendance at the Conference by the Counsel and the General Manager Next Meeting. Next reguler mesting will be held on November 23rd in Quebec el enms City most likely Adjournment oan. There being no further business the meeting adjourned anes ta 3 a e: ares ae Nee oe nr came Se MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE QU^ BEC ASBESTOS em MINING ASSOCIATION HELD AT THE JAMAICA HILTON HOTEL e OCHO RIOS JAMAICA FRIDAY FEBRUARY 5 1965 Present Messrs M.J. Messel J.O. K.V. Eby Lindell P.A. Meyer R.D. Bradfurd I.C. Campbell M.P. Carson W. Darrell R. Hebron R. Hackney N.W. Hendry F.P. Hodgson J.R.M.Hutcheson J.R.M.Hutcheson G.F. Jenkins W.W. Oughtred F.P. Smith 1. Sabourin P.-A. Filteau Mr. Messel chaired the meeting Proposed JM Fibre Classification The system was explained and broadly demonstrated as to how it would work with various customer specifications Chart of the suggested AC Fibre Classification is attached IF the new catalogue were adopted some of the present standard test procedures would become standard tests It was moved to refer this proposal to the Uniform Classification and Grading Committee for further study and discussion and if found satisfactory to prepare for the directors a formal resolution If the Association agrees to adopt this proposed fibre classification the Quebec Government would be so informed -2- Uniform Classification and Grading In line with the discussion of recommendation of the chairman Committee February 4 concerning the of the committee that the Association purchase certain specialized equipment for research work in Ottawa it was moved and seconded that the required equipment a 10,000 value te provided so as to continue work in Ottawa on the development of a dynamic system of evaluating chrysotile Adopted Quebec Institute of Research in Mining Pathology Pathology A report was tabled at the meeting reviewing the activities of the committee since it was appointed in hovember 1964 tem The report concludes that after discussion with medical Oe authorities in Canada and USA the proposed plan should be we e t launched at once 6 It is estimated that for the immediate period ahead an amount of 100,000 to provide for salaries of director and clerical staff office space equipment etc. plus a travelling budget of 9,000 to cover visits to other institutes It is hoped will that be required to put this project on its way once started other mining associations and interested industries will join and contribute financially to an eventual annual budget of some 240,000 for the long renge program It was moved and seconded that an amount of 109,000 be allocated to the committee to under- take the initial steps required to implement this project Adopted veteran FET Ts Lisi fia -3- Expo '67 Mr. Bruce Davis of Monpar Inc. was on hand to explain the concept general proposed for the asbestos industry pavilion theme for the pavilion deals with resistance The of asbestos to fire and heat It is one that can be portrayed quite dramatically and which naturally draws and holds attention Mr. Davis explained the feasibility of such a display and submitted preliminary costs following his discussion with Expo pavilion planners architects and suppliers It was pointed out that this was a major pro- nation and tint the incustry must be prepared to make a large expenditure The cost is estimated at half a million dollars or more and may be greater than the value received In view of these findings it was moved that the lot originally reserved by CAMA on the site of Expo '67 be released and that the Expo Corporation be so advised at e once Adopted e r el The president suggested that three special meetings he held each year with tentative plans as to date and location set a year in advance There being no further business the meeting adjourned ASBESTOS CEMENT FIBRE CLASSIFICATION FIBRE 326 4J 47104 F 413 3C4T 47115 4K600 4T4 479 4T 471 N 4T10C 422 40 483 4T 4790 4T1 C P.V. 14 McNett -200 McNett Crudy Contant Surface Area Filtration 119.8 117.6 116.4 115.6 115.0 111.2 223328 53.4 (2 223328 44.5 (3 223328 39.1 {6 223328 42.6 (4 223328 42.0 5 223328 53.7 (1 21.9 (4 22.2 (2 28.4 3 28.8 4 29.3 (5 30.3 (6 22.0 1 18.9 (2 16.0 {4 13.6 (5 17.8 3 12,9 6 6310 (3 5890 (4 6420 (a 6100 2 8200 6 6520 5 26 (1 50 55 39 95 31 107.5 105.9 102.2 100.0 98.9 71 35.0 (4 69 37.6 (2 66 28.5 5 65 35.7 3 64 46.6 1 28.B (14 32.7 2 35.3 (4 36.0 5 35.2 3 4.4 (4 13.4 (2 2.4 5 15.6 1 10.2 3 8440 NOUNE - 7680 NOUNE 10720 5 0900 NOUNE 8090 NOUNE 94 (3 41 (2 277 5 137 4 27 1 fa Fae 92.6 90.0 83.2 60 27.2 3 58 30.6 (2 53 39.9 r 36.0 (2 49.1 3 30.3 1 4.8 2 9.5 3.6 (3 9500 (2 9300 (1 10660 (3 53 (4 90 (2 190 (3 e jen sot ee eee ee Semmes ee eee pt SEe Me Ke eet Cs es Tce Source Menm ne pg Ret FR mra MINUTES OF THE 92nd MEETING OF THE m e QUEBEC ASBESTOS MINING ASSOCIATION eo HELD ON MONDAY MARCH 22nd 1965 me ee AT THE ST GEORGE'S CLUB SHERBROOKE P.O. wen ce Presents Messrs M.J. Messel J.O. Eby R.S. Coleman K.V. Lindell A.L. Penhale Geo W. Smith I.C. Campbell R. Hebron F.P. Hodgson J.R.M. Hutcheson C.F. Jenkins L.O. Montpetit W.W. Oughtred F.P. Smith P. Wiser Ceo Robinson ~ Sabourin R. Sabourin P.-A. Filteau Mr. Messel occupied the chair 18th 1965 were adopted Minutes of the meeting of January Technical Committes The chairman stated held on March 15th that a noting meeting of the committee had been that Mr. Glansante from the Provincial Department of Natural Resources will from now on represent Dr. Pelletier of the same Department At this meeting test methods under study were reviewed As regards test work on asbestos silica mixes it was hoped as mentioned at the FebruFa ebrr uay ry 4th that some essistance could possibly be provided AS by the Sherbrooke Laboratory and J.M. Research Center Committee has been asked by the Uniform Classification and Grading Committed to review the Strength Unit Test Procedure such as ball mill time since maximum strength of Thetford e aoe a ceemeer mR OME Eee Amber ew ee eT ae 12 fibres is minutes not necessarily developed by A more gentle opening method a milling time of fibre could of sixty also be used It was pointed out that a strength unit test if and as a proposed standard should be checked continually The chairman brought up the question of expects to retire on May 1st his successor as he Uniform Classification and Grading The committee held two meetings to consider classification put forth by one company A prepared for consideration by all companies the proposed fibre resolution has been which reads as Follows " Resolved that the Strength Unit Test as described on pages 85 to 102 of the Manual of Testing Procedures for Chrysotile Asbestos Fibre - March 1962 - be accepted as an added standard test for the classification of chrysotile asbestos fibre for use in asbestoscement products It being understood that 1. All of the Strength Unit equipment operated Asbestos by members of the Quebec Mining Association will be correlated in a manner similatro that used by the Fibre Inspector to correlate the Quebec Standard Testing Machines 2. The Technical Committee will be asked to review the existing above mentioned procedure and modify and clarify when necessary eal de wm em mee ee ~ ee 13 3 A location for the purpose of referee testing will be established Sherbrooke Resch Testing suggest Laboratory 4 The Uniform Classification and Grading Committee will continue its work to find other tests which can be integrated into the classification system for chrysotile asbestos fibre used in asbestos - cement ozoducts The chairman reported that at the second meeting of the committee the following points were raiseQ a That all S.U. equipment be correlated between all company laboratories / this end it was agreed to exchange fibre samples to be shipped to the Sherbrooke Laboratory . b That it might be cossible to develop maximum limits c That it might be advisable to indicate a basic fibre length as well as strength i.e. groups fibre d Eventually that the group numbers 4,5,6 only be printed on bags It was pointed out that correlation of S.U. equipment sight take up to three months This correlation however is merely the mechanicisn the proposed matred and not the It is not intended to railroad the acceptance of principle the S.U. Test as a standard but obviously one cannot catalog fibres under S.U. unless S.U. Test is eccrcted es a standard The re on a e he ieee me /4 resolution should the Strength Unit leave out the word asbestos since Test can be used to advantage in other products The question was asked whether the Sherbrooke Research Testing Laboratory instead of was adequately set up to test exchange samples individual companies doing their own testing This laboratory presently checks and correlates all ^ .S. machines and standard the if the Strength Unit Test is adopted as a inspector will have to report S.U. figures for all companies samples Problems might be encountered at first in classifying fibres presently in stock according to 5.U. until the mechanics are ironed out especially if customer wants more than one test specification The rapid test 15 minutes and the accelerated S.U. Test should eliminate these problems The Sherbrooke Laboratory should also eventually supply a standardized cement The chairman reported that the University of Sherbrooke proposes that only thesis on 25 instead of 50 be awarded towards the student asbestos fibre and concrete It was pointed out that the results do not correlate with these of Dr. Collins and that the conclusions do not appear too significant The director of the Sherbrooke Laboratory requests that he may be allowed to carry on this work with a summer student the request is accepted by the directors Approval was given to a recent purchase of equipment for the Sherbrooke Laboratory It was also moved and seconded that the Sick Leaves Benefits Plan of the University of Sherbrooke be accepted for the Sherbrooke Laboratory employees as pee te wy ele Lorem tite, + ee re ete me in : +37 ow no an /s established for all all professors ror ror officersofficersofficers University employees who are meither Industrial The chairman of the committee recommended that the hygiene engineer of the Texas and view Association be permitted to new equipment available for travel Houston industrial use cost of the trio approximately 400 Adopted It was moved * That the directors approve the new salaries blished for the Civil Service Classifi cation Grades 18-21 inclusive insofar as they apply intendent to the General Mine Rescue SuperMr. Marc Foy and the Thetford ora Vines Rescue Superintendent Mr. R. Houde grarting an increase of 500 retroactive : ene " to November 1964. Adopted coment for the Thetford Mines Rescue The curchase of an air compressor Station was brought up for discussion and the meeting decided that this piece of equipment was not essential to the operation of the Rescue Station and therefore the proposal was rejected rejected An adoitional amcunt of 100 for the Annual Safety Competition budget was approved Discussion was held varicus plants An on the current offer has been standing of made by one negotiations at company for a three contract . ES ane c queg emer- neta ne umn eee IE Ne as fet teen ae OF 16 Traffic A meeting with on March 11th the United Kingdom Shipping Conference Last year shipments of a substantial was held amount of fibre had to be negotiated with outside carriers pointed out the chairman of the committee This year the UK Conference has agreed to release ten thousand tons to be shipped by other carriers because of their own incapacity to provide cargo space however an increase in rates will be asked It has been learned that the Japanese Importers Association had been negotiating rates for shipments to Japan The kind of service offered however is not known The Canadian Exporters Association is about project of having an office in Montreal for to achieve the the River Plate Conference Legislation and Taxation The chairman of the committee gave a detailed report of the actions and representations made on behalf of the Association to the Government concerning Bills 8 and 9 Following a meeting of the committee held on February 17th to review the new legislation two meetings were held with the top.staff of the Department of Natural Resources and two meetings with the minister himself the Honorable Ren^' L^'vesque Based on the remarks of the minister at these meetings it is expected that Bill 85 a 9 will be production amendetdo allow expense and also sales and marketing expenses mining roads as an operating expense or depreciable property It is 8 and moved that the minutes of the 9 held on February 17th 1965 special meeting re Bills be adopted Carried ny ee come Ae nem wee a > flee Mme pice tee Public Relations Mr. Emilien Maheux rember of Parliament for Megantic has approached Asbestos Corcoration and Lake Asbestos of Quebec to organize a plant tour for Honorable Ren^' L^'vesque his top staff and the press with the object of getting these people acquainted with the mining industry It is proposed to provide the visitors with all information available on operations emoloyment and safety in the asbestos industry The group is scheduled to visit Thetford Mines area Friday March 26th They plan to go to Noranda on March 27th and thence to Cagnon and Sept on March 28th and 29th Institute of Pathological Research Several meetings of the committee have been held in recent weeks and a trip to the important European industrial medical centers was completed by the committee It was reported that the tree main centers visited have a hospital coming somewhat under their supervision this is a very efficient set for epidemiological study since the families of the workers can be examined and taken care of at one place Dr. J.A. Vidal has accepted to direct the proposed institute at a salary of 15,000 perper year Agreement is expected to be reached with the University of Montreal whereby the control will stay with our group but the University would have a right of veto through their faculty of medicine It is suggested that oroper financial control for the Institute Lo be established as soon as possible A full report on the organization and objectives of the Institute will be prepared rey and submitted at an early date tre ne SN ee en 8 Quebec Employers Council pew The promoters of participation of this new organization have cur Association on several insisted on the occasions lately It has been decided that the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association ca will continue to attend the meetings as an observer Asbestos Products Handbook Distribution of the brochure has been copies going to Expo '67 and 2,500 to architects and consulting engireets completed with 1,500 Canadian firms of Additional copies will be mailed to member companies as requested NEW BUSINESS CIM Annual Meeting The President and General Fanager are planning annual CIM meeting in Terento on March 28th to to attend 31st the On this occasion a meeting of the Provincial Mining Associations will be held Sunday March 28th Accounts payable ratified as follows Editorial Associates Limited EDITAS January Februery Supplementary $ 7,510.94 5,350.44 566.00 13,427.38 Canadian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy Maurice Mainguy architect - Expo 167 Pavilion S 500.00 $ 5,833.00 Statement of fees and disbursements in connection with his services to the Association curing 1964 was submitted by Counsel fone mg /9 American Standards Committee A questionnaire has asbestos fibra used been received from in the manufacture this committee regarding of asbestos products A tentative answer has been prepared by the Association representative on ASTM copies of which have been circulated to each member for his perusal If member companies wish to submit commentsa composite answer can be elaborated with the help of the chairman the Uniform Classification and Grading Committee Next meeting of the Association will be held on May 24th in Quebec City Adjournment There being no further business the meeting adjourned enrmy Pe aoe e n ome en nr n Mine Loe. Jeffrey | Jeffrey : Jeffrey Source Source ee Mine ee - MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE GUEBEC ASBESTOS MINING ASSOCIATION HELD ON TUESDAY JULY 27th 1965 AT THE KELTIC LODGE CAPE BRETON ISLAND NOVA SCOTIA Present Messrs M.J. J.O. K.V. J.A. P.A. A.L. Messel Eby Lindell Main Meyer Perhale R.C. Bradford C.B. Burnett 1.C. Campbell M.P. Carson R. Hebron R. Hackney M.W. Hendry The president Mr. M.J. Messel was in the chair J.R.M. Hutcheson J.F. Jenkins W.W. Oughtred F.P. Smith I. Sabourin P.A. Filteau Minutes of Ocho Rios the special meeting held at the Jamaica on February 4th 1965 Jamaica Hilton were adopted Hotel Technical Committee The chairman Mr. Hebron reported that his committee had continued to hold meetings every other month His predecessor Mr. its George F. Jenkins who has ably guided the inception has tendered his resignation at committee since the 39th meeting of the committee The title of the new fibre testing manual has been revised to read Testing Procedures for Chrysotile Asbestos Fibre ; the colour of the cover will be green and index to be simplified as much as possible In addition to the testing manual as a whole a digest of the manual and individual copies of the various test procedures will be available . . women ee e 13 9 Modified Suter Comb jest - The Technical Committee nas adopted this test procedure as recommended by ATI ) Fitre Strength Unit Test - A committee was appointed to clarify wording in test procedure An official vote of thanks was moved towards Mr. George F. Jerkirs underlining the contribution and guidance provided by the latter in presiding the affairs of the Technical Committee In accepting Mr. Jenkins stressed the cordial assistance he had received from the members of his committee Uniform Classification and Grading Committee The President of the Association read the letter of resignation of the chairman of the committee Mr. F.P. Hodgson who has recently left his position with Flintkota Mines Limited The President also read a report from the resigning chairman in which the latter indicated that a Instructions have been given to the Fibre Inspector concerning collection and reporting of Group 3 fibres see detailed report attached b Testing of sixth exchange of samples has been started and results of groups 4 and 5 have been issued group 6 results to be issued in the near future c Salary adjustments at the Universit^' de Sherbrooke become effective September 1st The resigning chair- we ete tee ee ee ce tena nee OF mamm ae gt e rea eat a vote es ee wT oe - ne 8 enim 14 technicians ard 300 per year for the director it is generally has done a good agreed that the director Kr J.J. Par^ job copy of Universit^' de Sherbrocke salary scale attached d Opinions have been received from M.J. Marcus of mene Gowling MacTavish Ostorre & Henderson patent ee attorneys in Ottawa concerning the patentability we of the use of asbestos fibre in high aluminous cement and in concrete spur packed oipe also concerning the patertability of asbestos fibres from sonic separation of natural impurities chrysotile These searches have been given to the General Manager for further handling The draft of proposed patent application in the case of sonic separation will be forwarded to the for verification inventor Professor G.A. and commerts Inquiries Collins will also be made as to cost of application The directors proposed a vote of thanks to excellent work A letter expressing their Mr. Hodgson for appreciation to his be forwarded by General Manager It was recommended that Mr. Harry Foster be nominated chairman of the Uniform Classification and Grading Committee to succeed Mr. Hodgson Approved His superiors to discuss the patter a with Mr. Foster and advise General Manager Te er et ere rane Sone Se ees ve Rpt dem ee Pe te eta te . 4 ! ' ee SPM een OTe - vase ase ee Lone - cette Be ee ann See Te See - Is Industrial Relations Committee The chairman stated that no meeting of his committee had been held since the last special meeting The reports of the Dust Control Engineer have been circulated regularly the latter has undertaken experimental work on roise at certain plant locations A letter was received from the workman's Compensation Board .explaining the increased from changes in merit 00.3.5 35 to 0.50 rating The rate has been Following a request from the treasurer Mr. George Robinson sucblemental explanations were given by the Spard in several of the Association Although letters circulated the Ecard does not to members seem to favour the merit rating system it was suggested that the industry shoudl endeavour to maintain the present merit rating system The meeting was advised of the Government's intention to set up in the near future a provincial joint safety committee As to the sntation of the clause in the New Mining Act which provides that the mine inspector may request the presence of a union representative during at inspection the Government has not been able so far to determine a practical procedure The chairman also pointed out that the implications and complications of the supplemental Pension Plan Bill 52 should be perused carefully and their application kept under close scrutiny DO eee - 16 ver: ae se p Traffic Committee The chairrar briefly reviewed a recent resort on restrictive os te practices released by the Combines Legislation Board in which ae certain regulations are recommended A copy of this report senpmere a to be sent to all members As reported previously the River Plate Conference has set up a Canadian office in Montreal a meeting will be held in September to discuss rates In a recent bulletin the National Harbours Board announced an increase from 25 to 50 in top wharfage surcharges effective August 1st 1965 it would seem that one way or another these increases will be passed on to the customers With the adoption of the metric system was pointed out we should foresee the will be acepted as the normal shipping in Great day when basis Britain it said system Legislation and Taxation Committee The chairman pointed out some of the effects of Bill 52 on present pension plans such as As of January , in present plans 1966 no changes can be made before prior approval from Government of Quebec Vesting orivileges are accrued to an employee either after the age of 45 yearosr after ten years of services oe euwee, eee al one a Sie /? The Joint Taxation Committee of Quebec Metal Mining Association and Quebec Asbestos Mining Association have held a meeting to draft up a short brief requesting clarification on certain clauses of the Mining Duties Act explanations to be limited to points that can be safely questioned Copies of brief to be circulated in due course Public Relations Committee ee The need for effective publicity on the question of asbestos cmmne and its incidence in lung cancer was discussed It was pointed oe out that several customers have written to their asbestos fibre cane suppliers requesting information of news value to counteract publicity released in recent months in Canada and United , States The chairman of the committee of the Institute of Pathological Research explained that there was rothing newsworthy in the results of the work done at Saranac Lake or any previous work He stated that the report to be submitted by Dr. MacDonald following his epidemiological study of the overall problem might provide an occasion for a news article on the present situation in the asbestos industry Dr. MacDonald is a persona grata here and abroad of his superiors could possibly and with the work on this tacit permission question with both McGill University and Universit^' de Montr^'al a ee cr. em ee me 8 At this point at the suggestion of the chairman of the Public Relations Committee r L.L. Knott public relations counsel for the Association was invited to present his views on the public image of the industry Mr. Knott commented that presently the political and economical climate in the Province of Quebec requires that industry be on the alert Pressures for nationalism are exerted by young people on political leaders Appeals are rade to nationalization as a i means to help French Canadians particicate in the economy Strikes are numerous and gererally on economic grounds e Fr. Knott suggested to intersify efforts to explain industry pe to peoploef Quebec Short articles could be printed and er distributed to all media of information Spot radio releases and possibly one or two minute TV film strips could A sound background fect sheet on asbestos and cencer be sponer should be compiled as soon as possible in the face of the present stirring of stories on asbestos as a possible couse of cancer A press conference Lith scientific writors could lung be convened following the completion of Or MacDonald's study assuming that his report All these items pointed aill constitute out PR counsel a newsworthy source can be handled within present budget limits wee cee ag ee eT | Bowmen bee eee { 19 NEW BUSINESS CIM Education Committee In a letter to the President of the Association the chairman of the General Committee on Education for CIM Mr. R.D. Hindson appealed for financial support towards the continuance of the work of his committee In line with the previous response given two years ago it was moved and adopted that a contribution of 500 be made towards said committee Mines Ministers Conference Following invitation received from Honorable Ren^' L^'vesque it was proposed that at least the President and the General Manager of the Association attend said Conference On this occasion a joint meeting of , will be held the Provincial Mining Associations Expo '67 The Association has been approached again with the suggestion to sponsor one of Corporation The the plazas to be erected by Association to submit ideas the Expo on how it could effectively be represented in the proposed project It was moved and adopted that the amount of the Association partici- pation in such a plaza shall not exceed 65,000 aew: an Oe yee me 10 oe + poate Business Comments on General Business Conditions aan eeer As regerds Fanville in USA the meeting was informed that sales of asbestes friction materials were ahead of last year by % sales of textile also by % paper ahead 10 pipe ee also 10 flooring 2 <up shircles slightly ahead insulations Lo and asbestos sheets flat and corrugated are about at a stand The international asbestos market is not as good as last year particularly in France and Japan In reporting on AS Company the President commented that business was very good especially in copper building materials steel however is giving increased competition In Europe business in France is slowing down and in West Germeny is on a plateau which is considered good As to the fibre business there is a slight change in the original fore- , cast The management of Asbestos Corporation Limited is a little disappointed in the volume of shipments somewhat lower than expectations especially in Japan and West Germany In other [ robean England countries business is reasonably good business in however is a little lower than last year From long range point of view there is no reason to change fore- cast of an increasing fibre demend ee ce ee Dawe sev ! : hover me cate wrt Loe ee ee : - cn ce 2 oe cr. | rr 11 The Flintkote Mines it was resorted is capacity The company is not purchasing operating close to as much fibre as it used to because of strikes However the management is looking forward to the balance of the year with confidence and is optimistic for 1966 The Bell Asbestos Mines shipments are behind last year but expected to catch up by the end of the year The company e e is experiencing somewhat the same conditions as other companies emmms in Japan France and Mexico oem In the case of Nicolet Asbestos Mines the interests of which are mostly in the United States business is expanding and is ahead of last year The company expects that business will continue to be good next year also Next Special Meeting The next special mesting will be held during the last week of March 1966 more specifically Thursday March 31st and April 1st and 2nd The General Manager to check on following possible suggested locations Acapulco Porto Rico Guadeloupe . Adjournment Adjournment There being no further business meeting adjourned we ee ne ae +) en Aree we ee TE ee ee t ern UNIVERSIT^ E SHERBROOKE SALARY SCALE FOR TECHNICIANS Adopted by the Board of Directors August 14th 1964 B. Sc GRADUATE TECHNICIANS GENERAL SPECIALIZED 4,200 4,400 4,600 4,800 000 5,200 5,400 5,600 5,800 6,000 6,200 6,400 6,600 6,600 7,000 - GRADUATE Lo TECHNICIAN 5,500 5,900 6,100 6,100 6,400 6,700 7,000 7,300 7,600 5,800 6,700 6,400 6,700 7,000 7,300 7,600 7,900 In charge of laboratory add 300 to base rate maximum | 7,500 annual raise 300 Un1i,v2er0s0ity Industrial experience experience or the equivalent 200 per 3 years x 200 + 3 years ^ 900 - combined maximum 1,200 year 100 maxicum maxirum ee one a MMI peeI me TT me a oe ee eee Spm ee ee eS Mtn Sg mee TET Se 12 B. Sc Sc In charge of laboratory add 300 to salary University or industrial experience required 300 per year Maximum 1,500 Work 40 hours per week Vacation 3 weeks after 1 year or % of earnings Three years experience at the Universit^' de Sherbrooke e are required to be in charge of laboratory graduate technician This applies to a ete re cme Scale for a Professor holding a M.A.Sc. e Assistant 300.00 annual raise ek 1st 2 3 4 5 6 7 B 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 year 6,700 7,500 7,800 8,100 8,100 8,400 8,700 9,000 9,300 9,600 9,900 10,200 10,500 * . " bad * " lecturer promoted assistant Associate Professor 400 Profesor 9,800 10,200 10,600 > 11,000 Max 11,400 11,800 12,200 12,600 13,000 13,300 Max " " M Full Professor 400 12,700 13,100 13,500 13,900 14,300 14,700 15,000 Max July 27 1965 UNIFORM REPORT - CLASSIFICATION AND GRADING COMMITTEE ; ITnhespeIcntsoprector's reports for June 21 and July 15 have been distributed Since 35 of the last meeting the Inspector has collected 63 these samples were sent to Sherbrooke to date samples Instructions have been given to the Inspector concerning the collection and reporting of Group 3 fitre He is to hand open ate and ooen mechanically where an opener is used by the company all samsies and pass his results on to the Laboratory The e: Laboratory will report his 0.5 test results in addition to their mechanics will have to be own Problems are foreseen and the cet worked out as they occur me 2 Leboratory of samples has been started Testing on the sixth exchange been issued Group 6 The results of Croup 4 and Group 5 have results will be issued in the very near future The Inspector has to the Laboratory collected some Group 7 samples for immediately after annual vacation shipment Selazy I have adjustments at the University are effective made my recommendations to the President in September 1 a separate letter The Laboratory is closed July 12 to July 26 this year f^r annual vacation from ~ Since the last meeting we have completed the installation of the Meta filter completed the addition to the Laboratory and ordered the tables and benches for the additional space The electric powered Gestetner duplication machine was ordered No expenditures not covered by budget have been made Uniform Classification and Grading It has not been possible to call a meeting of the committee to consider the resolution prepared by Mr. Sabourin concerning the adoption of the Strength Unit test as a standard test I have nr TTS OPOa e npeeemm Rema e nrmcntedl mp e ocr 12 distributed the resolution to all members for their and asked that they come to the meeting prepared to is felt that a vote should be taken consideration vote if it I included two other tests which should be voted on separately if desired I would however recommend that the committee reconvene before a vote of the directors is taken Research Ottawa has continued work with Iodine Absorption as a measure of harshness Their results They expect the report to be work had been done on length do not seem to be conclusive conclusive issued shortly Very little actual measurement however this has not teen forgotten Patents - Ottawa I have received correspondence from Mr. M.J. Marcus of Cowling McTavish Osborne forwarding patent were given to Mr. Attorneys & Henderson Patent Attorneys searches on Cases , 2 in Ottawa These searches Filteau who can report on their contents FPH July 21 1965 F.P. Hodgson sme et ete ' ee ee mas ney we nmeaiwages eae canes MINUTES OF THE 95th MEETING OF THE ae QUEBEC ASBESTOS MINING ASSOCIATION nee Rcwermu cnet HELD ON MONDAY NOVEMBER 29th 1965 AT THE CHATEAU FRONTENAC QUEBEC CITY P. C. 2 oe Present Messrs M.J. Messel J.O. Eby A.S. Coleman K.V. Lindell P.A. Meyer . I.C. Campbell R. Hebron H. Foster J.R.M. Hutcheson R.J. Merrill D. Poirier F.P. Smith Geo Robinson I. Sabourin P. A. Filteau Geo W. Smith Mr. Messel presided at the meeting Following a correction to the minutes of the ith meeting pointing out that under Technical Committee the title Fibre Strength Unit Test on page 2 should read Mckett Test the minutes of said 94th meeting were adopted Technical Committee The Chairman explained that the meeting of the Technical Committee would be held the following day November 30th This scheduling was unavoidable since the meeting is in Ottawa at the invitation of the Mines Eranch of the Federal Government Concerning the revised Manual of Test Procedures it was stated that the ATI Committee has encountered several editing delays and that the latest completion date is estimated to be late January or early February 1966 ane cee e p be e 12 wet cnig tame woe tes Uniform Classification and Grading Committee Since the last meeting of the Association the Committee met twice on November 4th and kovember 24th The Chairman e reported that in attempting to correlate the S.U. machines me a study of the S.U. figures obtained by five different me companies on the same fibres indicated that at present e there was quite a spread on the reported figures In view of these findings it has been suggested that senior company tech- nicians visit various laboratories to help standardize tech- niques In addition future round robins will use standard cement silica and degree of openness At the request of the Chairman of the Committee Mr. Par^' has been asked to explore mathematical approaches to these variations A request to spend up to 500 for payment of professional fees to mathematicians of the Universit^' de Sherbrooke was authorized by the directors It was agreed that the method of testing should be thoroughly checked first since it may be a question of procedure yet it was pointed cut there are obvious discrepancies It was also suggested that someone in the Manville Research Laboratory familiar with this kind of work could cossibly assist the Srerbrooke mathematicians in putting together the preliminary statistical data A definition of the 5.U. Fibre Classification accepted by the , subject committee was presented for consideration 13 " The classification of asbestos fibres based on fibre strength units is a Groud 4 fibres are fibres that are within the grouo 4 Cuebec Standard Test classificatiaonnd which have minimum fibre strength unit of . sixty 65 b Group 5 fibres are fibres that are within the group 5 C.S. Test classi- fication and which have a minimum fibre strength unit of fifty 55 c Group 6 fibres are fibres that are within the group 6 0.5 Test classi- fication and which have a minimum fibre strength unit of forty 45 Subdivisions of all groups to be based on " increments of five 5 strength units The oroposed classification was discussed at length It was suggested that the S.U. classification should be indicated on tags used for fibre shipments the matter requires further study It was remarked that the Q.S. classification was included in the original proposal merely for freight classification purposes see attached memorandum re freight classifications and Q.S. Test The S.U. classification is meant to meet new customer specifications A double guaranteed specification should be avoided It was submitted that it might be useful vr owe, a: pes oar + seme ee 14 me e during the this would transition period to use both identifications . also assist the inspector with regards to fibres in storage very often In overseas shipments the lot numbar tags are it has been found that found in the ship hold accordingly it would be preferable to have some sort of et marking on the bags amine cas It was proposed that the member companies study the proposel tabled by the Uniform Classification and Grading Committee to see how it fits with each company's particular problems and in which way it can should be submitted be resolved Suggestions from companies by their respective representatives at the next meeting of the Technical Committee It was agreed that the Fibre Inspector continue his present procedure but where a fitre was designated as a S.U. grade the inspector will send a sample to Sherbrooke for a S.U. Test The results would be reported along with the Q.S. findings As to the McNett classification correlation of results will be attempted when figures are received from a sufficient number of companies The Chairman of the Committee also referred to the question of procedure regarding drawings of G.S. Testing Machine sent Mr. Par^' to the African Associated Mines These drawings by had been obtained from the Canadian Government Specification Board in Ottawa and sold at 10 per set In the future such requests shoulbde referred to the General Manager = cet meomw ah a bate eae were ae amma em mam NTS nese we aWeON ee de gma be TT ET wee anlew /4 during the this would transition period to use both identifications also assist the inspector with regards to fibres in storage In very often the accordingly it overseas shipments lot number tags are would be preferable it has been found that found in the ship hold to have some sort of marking on the bags It was proposed that the member companies study the proposal tabled by the Uniform Classification and Grading Committee to see how it fits with each company's particular problems and in which way it can be should be submitted by resolved Suggestions from companies their respective representatives at the next meeting of the Technical Committee It was agreed that the Fibre Inspector continue his present procedure but where a fibre was the inspector will send a sample designated as to Sherbrocke a 5.U. grade for a S.U. Test The results would be reported along with the Q.S. Findings As to the McNett classification correlation of results will be attempted when figures are received from a sufficient number of compenies The Chairman of the Committee also referred to the question of procedure regarding drawings of 0.5 Testing Machine sent Mr. Par^' to the African Associated Mines These drawings by had been obtained from the Canadian Government Specification Board in Ottawa and sold at 10 per set In the future such requests should be referred to the General Manager eer et * re ee Sead ete ee a eh 15 ^ second.letter second.letter from Mr. H. Hiendl of Germany by the Chairman of the Committee in which the authority to include some parts of the Manual in a book he is about to publish on asbestos has been received former requests of Test Procedures cement machines The manual is copyrighted and any reference should be acknowledged A proposal was accepted old Uniform Classification and Grading suggesting that the Committee records in the Johnson's Company files be forwarded to the General Manager's office in Quebec City e Industrial Relations Committee ee With reference to the minutes of the previous meeting the Chairman of the Committee moved that a sound meter be purchased e at a cost of 1,500 Permanent sampling stations to be Ake established and the dust control engineer would take counts ee at time of dust sampling Adopted More information on additional help required to be submitted at next meeting On a motion duly made and seconded it was resolved that the allocation of costs of the Thetford Mines Rescue Station during 1966 be calculated on the following basis et te ee a cA 3 : STs tts . ee col aia : 16 BNA TE TES Thetford Mines Rescue Station ANOS a Building and Equipment Capital cost rent mainteentacn.ce rSeRteEmPr (cman eaten QMMAPA Solbec QAMA 59 men 269 men 328 men GT b Superintendent's Salary CMMAPA South Shore QAMA 393 men 269 269 269 662 662 662 men men 60 40 100 ') . Superintendent's to Caspe Solbec Travel Expenses and New Calumet QMMAPA QAMA to Asbestos QMMAPA QAMA 100 nil nil - 100 General Superintendent Mine Rescue Training Plan Salary and Travel Expenses OMMAPA QAMA 4,815 men 269 men 5,084 men 95 5 100 ADOPTED e 17 The the purchase of additional mine two member companies having rescue equipment was left with urtazground operations These two companies to contact CXMAPA as to action taken The Committee will hold a meeting on November 30th at which timea representative will be acccinted to meet with the representatives of the Provincial Departments of Labour and Natural Resourcetso discuss the application of Articles 260 and 266 of the New Mining Act The contents of an appropriate reply to the letter from the District Inspector of Mines Kines Branch Australia briefly reviewed by the Chairman of the Committee for were the general acceptance of the meeting Traffic Committee The Chairman of the Traffic Committee drew attention to the memorandum circulated earlier in the meeting having reference to Quebec Standard Testing procedures and freight rates Copy of memorandum is attached He reported that earlier in the month the Traffic Committee had reached an agreement with the Caradian Continental Eastbound Freight Conference for rates on asbestos for the period 1st January 1966 to 31st March 1967 at an increase of 1.00 per ton % The formation of a Canadian Shiccers Council under the auspices of the Canadian Exporters Association is proceeding Loe te ee ee rm ae ee he e nee meome 0 2 B erin am mal, Lee It was reported that there was a danger of a strike of dock ce workers at Quebec taking place on or before December 10th Semmmee and that arrangements were being made to establish a special AHR rail rate from the Thetford Mines area to Three Rivers in the- a event that such a strike were to take place erni: A new system for the collection and payment of top wharfage a a charges levied by the N.H.B. has been adopted on an interim ne Fe basis for the period ending December 31st 1965. Tre system does not change the arrangement whereby the shipper is now responsible for the payment of such charges and it was reported that these additional costs were being passed on to the customer Legislation and Taxation Committee Government bulletins on supplemental pension plans were distributed Public Relations Committee The Chairman reported that the preparation of proposed TV spots is under way and the material should be ready for next meeting Institute of Pathological Research Committee In his brief review of the recent Antigua occupational study- conference the Chairman stated that some twenty doctors and industrial hygiene experts had attended this meeting There were six people from the CAMA and two typists completing the group ne ee eras : - * Sew ene ee Are ety mere nate fo ee ee we sae c . 19 In order to avoid any control of the discussions by QAMA Dr. Gr^'goire of l'Institut Lavoisier of Montreal presided at the various sessions From the conclusions of the meetings a tentative program was elaborated Any formal program however will be submitted for consideration only after full review of the minutes of the Antigua Conference Copies of these minutes will be distributed to all attendants as confidential material for personal use only A first and unanimous recommendation was the carrying out of the epidemiciogical survey proposed by Dr. Fc Donald The consensus of opinion seemed to point out that the QAMA should take into its hands the ways and means to conduct the necessary research instead of doing it through universities or letting it fall in the hands of the Government As an example it was recalled that the tobacco industry launched its own orograz and it now knows where it stands Industry is always well advised to look after its own problems It was suggested that the companies come prepered at the next meeting to discuss the epidemiological proposal copies of which were distributed at the Sherbrooke meeting on September 20th 1965. would encompass es a Part of this epidemiological survey prospective study the lengthy and tedious task files of the of reading some 16,000 ray pictures in the estestos companies The suggestion was to retain the services of an outside doctor since it seems doubtful that Drs Cartier and Grainger could undertake such work on top of their regular assignments eee ee ON tee ee a ae, . 10 Expo '67 _- The announcement of the QAMA participation is scheduled for Monday December 6th at a press conference in the offices of Expo Corporation Messrs Messel Campbell N. Barr John Gossip and Paul Filteau to attend NEW BUSINESS Accounts payable ratified as follows ee Editorial Associates Limited EDITAS - seam September 5 350 44 ee October 5 350 44 te 10 700 88 te Leads St. George's Club Christmas Staff Fund 25.00 25.00 ; . ; ADOPTED Decease of Judge Andr^' Sebourin The Counsel thanked the members of the Association for their kind expressions of consideration and condolences upon the death of his brother Andr^' Next Meeting Next meeting of the 1966 the Chateau Association will be Frontenac in Quebec held on City January 31st Adjournment There being no further business the meeting adjourned wrt see wrens MINUTES OF THE 96th MEETING OF THE CUEBEC ASBESTOS MINING ASSOCIATION HELD ON MONDAY MARCH 7th 66 AT THE CHATEAU FRONTENAC QUEBEC CITY P.0 P.0 Present Messrs .J Fessel J.D. Eby P.A. Meyer K. Oughtred Ceo W. Smith ; I.C. Campbell R.Dodds Hebron W.H. Foster J.R.M. Hutcheson R.J. Merrill | I. Sabourin E.D. Montpetit A.L. Panhela D. Poirier F.P. Smith G. Robinson - P.A. Filteau The minutes of the 95th meeting of the Association being the first for itam on the agenda the Chairman Mr. Messal asked comments - if any or a motion of adoption Moved by A.L. Penhale and seconded by P.A. Meyer that minutes be sdopted Approved | Technical Committee The Chairman reported that two Committee had been held since os ee ee I meetings of the Technical | the last GAMA meeting The committee on oil absorption expects to complete a round- robin series tration test of test using several procedure The fibre liquids with the pena . strength unit test sub- 7 NE E ta E -2- committee is continuintgo review the wording of the procedure in operation with the efforts of the Uniform Classification and Crading Committee The work on the filtration of asbestos- cement silica mixes is progressing A change in the work of the Technical Committee seems to be evolving said the Chairman and branching into other groups such as ASTM and the Uniform Clasification and Grading Committee It is hoped that ASTM will adopt our test methods instead of something of their own ASTM seems to be receptive . -- . The visit of the Committee to Ottawa on November 30th 1965 e proved to be informative and of interest to all members sho could attend The Department of Mines and Technical Surveya the expressed their desire for asbestos industry to advise them where they may assist technical work Industrial Relations Committee Industrial The last meeting of the Committee was held on February 8th 1966. The greater part of the meeting reported the Chairman -3% was spent reviewing safety regulations in mines & list of suggested clarifications 202 changes was propered and it is planned to discuss the latter at a joint meeting with CAMA we have been edvised informally that no change will take placo for the time being in the procedure presently followed by the sine inspector when visiting mine operations No union man will be asked to accompany the inspector since the former is covered neither by the workmen's Compensation Act nor by his own company Group Life and Accident Insurance plan A review of the Merit Rating Plan as per letter received free the Treasurer of the Commission Fr. L.P. Pelletier indicatas a higher provisional rate for 1966 i.". 2.25 Following charg^'s made for claies in 1965 there has been an increase in the deficit totelling 173,141 It is planned to pay @ visit shortly to the offices of the Workmen's Compensation Board and review the whole situation Uniform Classification and Grading Committee The Chairman reported that the fibre inspector had recently undergone surgery and he possibly would be off for another two or three week as a result the Sherbrooke Laboratory i -4- running short of work Inspector the Chairman be tied to the Asbestos Concerning a pay increase for the recommended Corporation that his plan as salary scale it is actually for his fringe benefits If this is approved his salary on will be raised to 645 per month July 1st 1966 and would coincide with the point salary of a chief tester at Asbestos Corporation Recommendation edopted by Directors budget The Chairman then asked for the approval of the 1966 . for the Sherbrooke Leboratory in the amount of 57,995 practically the same as in 1965 The 1966 budget includes anticipated salary increases as per University of Sherbrooke plan Adopted . In view of the leaving of Mr. J.J. Par^' in May next the Chairman had a discussion with the University concerning his replacement Mr. Normandin of the University stated that the new director should be one acceptable to the University however he would not be considered a member of the University . staff Mr. Normandin also indicated that the University | would prefer to have more actual research or study carried out by the Association Laboratory It seems that the- Association should try to obtain as e director a man with a -5- he could be allowed to take 8. Sc in Chemistry or Physics postgraduate courses at the University was asked to advertise in the Montreal The General Manager Quebec and Sherbrooke newspapers for a man with the above qualifications at a salary range of 6,300 to 10,800 dependinogn qualifications moving expenses to be paid Agreed has visited all labs their individual The SU committee findings have been passed on to the committee chairman who will subait a report within a month It has not been the possible however to reach agreement on SU classification wording An attempt will be made to resolve this at the next meeting of the Uniform Classification wording and Grading Committes In corrolating Mckett results it has been found that no matter what - variations of plus or minus ^ are produced mesh of fibre is measured depending screen percentagemise it is obvious on the split on each. - that such variations could be extremely high in the case of low percentages A letter from the Department of Mines and Technical Surveys a contribution of 3,300 from has been received requesting of a Zeiss particle sizer the Association towards the purchase -6- which the Department would like to develop as a means to measure fibre length and diameter The Chairman said he would like to visit again Ottawa prior to the next special meeting at which time he would make his recommendation the suggestion was accepted Traffic Committee It was reported that the London Dock situation has : improved and that the U.K. Conference were now prepared to accept either laminated or paper bags for normal shipments although rates the ratio of laminated paper on such shipments and the to apply have yet to be negotiated with the Conference at a meeting to be held on Rarch 17th Sa, Discussions concerning the level of rates to the River Plate Conference are still under way . Members have received notification from the Canadian Freight : Association that the agreed charge rates from the minas to St. Lawrence River ports for export are to be increased .- effective June 1st 1966 as follows 4 cents per 100 pounds on fibre , 2 ev ' oe 8 oe e waste . 2 bd . had * shorts -7- -7- is intended to have meetings with the Railroad Companies to discuss this incr^'as-e A preliminary Council is to organizational meeting be held in Fontreal on of the Canadien Shippera March 16th to which all interested associations engaged in export have been invited to attend The Chairman of the CAMA Traffic Committes is to act as pro tem chairman for this meeting Legislation and Taxation Committee A joint meeting with the Tax Committee of the Quebec Metal 7 Mining Association is scheduled for March 17th to discuss the implications of the B^'langer Commission report and members were invited to attend Public Relations Committes A report from Public Relations Counsel will be available for the meeting in Puerto Rico for meeting Pilot films for TV showing are to be available the . at Puerto Rico and the 16mm projector and tape Manager was recorder to requested to ask for oe be available there in a order that members could view these va calth, paraet > phil cant ra ngstin shee -8- nme ren on the subject of asbestos In view of the continued bad press cows ey with respect to the latest release on cancer and in particular by Dr. Selikoff it was agreed that a release covering the in this field should be made available activities Association's - Public Relations and that the Association's as soon as possible handle the release as soon as it is Counsel be retained to available It was pointed out that the manufacturers of the QAMA to issus appropriate - asbestos products are counting on statements Institute of Pathological Research Committee that the Antigua Meeting . Counsal for the Association explained of obtaining advice as was convened for the specific purpose with the proposed Institute of Pathological L$ to how to proceed that QAMA was the body to is Research It was generally agreed per in Canada the first step being to te initiate such a project crear study by Dr. McDonald After & launch the epidemiological Somerset discussion of the study it was suggested that the scope be TSS its results could be released with- GN restricted and qualified Otay out necessarily a university stamping approval hens Ae Pittsburgh Brown JAR Cleveland Recently a meeting of Drs Wright seavee K.V. Lindell and Ivan Sabourin was pene Vidal Gr^'goire Guy Messrs caves of an organization to be known e8 Ae held to discuss the setting aT ER? A.H.R.C the Asbestos Health Research as well as menRyp am anscern nome GRn , a a een t cre mR 2 . in? Serene, aoe oS nee Lega Me Ree eee, = nee} ALOTAcargerervememanrren: tart 3 nF:ONT TO: Crreepermaare east RIOTS OIE ry war =m err OA? Fe a tentative budget for the first year 7 After an extensive report hy Counsel it was decided to ask subject committes to submit to the QAMA Directors a specific and firm recommendation concerning the first yeer operating budget inclusive of Dr. McDonald's study The Committee Messrs Lindell and Sabourin was congratulated for having obtained Dr. George Wrighotn the Scientific Committen Expo Contract to be signed as soon as minor details are adjusted The General Manager to inquire into the feasibility of \e building a large representative asbestos block from slab sections prepared by the stone cutter of St. G^'rard Wolfe County The rock will come from one of the esbestos mines of Thetford Fines wr Accounts payable ratified as follows Editorial Associates Limited EDITAS- November December January February 1965 1965 1966 1966 5 350 44 5 390 44 5 350 44 5 350 44 21 441 76 Canadien Institute of Mining & Metallurgy Contribution to Annual Convention Quebec $ . 900 00 ADOPTED -10- The Treasurer circulated the unaudited 1965 Financial statement of the Association for the information of members A letter has been received from Rarsh & McLennan Ltd. inquiring whether or not the Association intended to initiate any change to the pension plan of the General Manager consistent Act recently passed with the Supplemental Pension by the Provincial Government Plans The matter was left with the Trustees of the plan It was moved that I.C. Campbell be appointed Trustee to replace W.J. Johnson who is about to . retire Adopted For the sake of prompt discharge of the affairs of the Association it was ~ RESOLVED That the name of Kr Peter R. Riordon be added to the list of officers who - are authorized to sign cheques on behalf of the Association and that the names of Mr. M.J. Johnson and of Rr C.H. Rchaughton be deleted from the list at the time of their retirement 3 ADOPTED rae -11- Election of Officers of the Nominating Committee submitted a report The Chairman slate of officers and which recommended that the same committee chairmen as that of the previous year be nominated for another term of office The motion was proposed and seconded provided it was in agreement with the appointments of representatives by member companies Adopted The President Mr. Messel thanked the members for his re- election and expressed his appreciation for the continued of the other officers and committee chairmen support NEW BUSINESS- Visit of Red China Delegates inquiry The meeting was informed that an had been received to visit as to the possibility for a Red Chinese Mission some of the Quebec asbestos mines The consensus of opinion was strongly opposed Exhibition . Western Quebec Regionel Regionel Quebec Western An invitation has been received from subject body to participate st Ir 1966 in their annual event The Mines --Bulkwerk the theme of which is . of Quebec's Economy -12- The honorery president of the 1966 Expo is Mr. H.5 B^'rub^' Mines and former president of manager of Noranda Metal Mining Association It was suggested that Quebec the Ceneral discuss the proposal with PR Counsel Manager Next Special Proposed Summer Meeting dates for next special summer July 27 28 or August 3 4 29 5 meeting are location Murrey Bay etc. Tentative Next Meeting Next meeting of the Association will be held on May 30th 1966 in Quebec City Adjournment There being no further business the meeting adjourned adjourned + pore: x * debense mae eee ate a. a . mee sees Coens Source Source Source Jeffrey MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE QUEBEC ASBESTOS MINING ASSOCIATION HELD ON FRIDAY AUGUST 5th 1966 AT THE JASPER PARK LODGE JASPER ALBERTA Present Nessrs M.J. Messe J.D. Eby R.S. Coleman K.V. Lindell J.A. Rain P.A. Meyer W.W. Oughtred Geo W. Smith H.M. Ball Dr. John Beattie Jack Berry R.D. Bradford John W. Brown I.C. Campbell N.P. Carson J. Christian D.T. Colton R.Dodds Hebron J.W. Duncen | W.H. Foster C.G. Gabrielson R. Hackney N..W Handry J.R.M.Hutcheson J.R.M.Hutcheson R.J. Merrill A.L. Penhale L. Piuze F.P. Smith W.C.Wansbrough Dr. Geo Wright 1. Sabourin P.A. FilteBu } . Rr Kessel was in the chair of DAMA Expenses for 1967 Allocation It was moved that allocation of QAMA expenses for 1967 be : determined on the new basis suggested by Canadian Manville , with Cassiar Asbestos Mines contributing an amounotf 10,500 e elt towards the health research program Adopted i Accordingly the basis of for 1967 number of technical research tests performed by will be allocated on Sherbrooke Laboratory and health research on the basis of sales value NA a inh Mem i SCF EES re Senin we Te RIE 8 M, eee TEE ORO ome erage TTS NR 8 etc ce RTT Dust Abatement Committes A study will be of the air pollutioent the various operating mines assigned to e special committee rether than to the Technical Committee Rembers of the committee to be named at the September meeting Frudentia ; we eee An invitation to the Association to become a member of this e public safety organization was tabled The satter to be . reviewed at September meeting efter Companies have checked whether or not they already are members Occupational end Environmental Health Committes The President of the Association welcomed our distinguished ean guests Drs Wright and Beattie and invited the Secrotary | tien of the Special Committee Mr. Sabourin to open the discussion neicm on the subject #r Sabourin reviewed the composition of sal the Scientific Committee of the Institute and the qualifi- cations of its present members They are Dr. George W. Wright - Cleveland Ohio Dr. M. Cushner - New York City N.Y. | Dr. Fernand Gr^'goire > Montreal Quebec ws fs Dr. John Beattie- Cambridge England Dr. Daniel Braun - Pittsburg PB Dr. P. Pelnat - Cleveland Ohio Other members could be added as time goes The Committee feels it should be kept independent within the scientific world and disassociated as much as possible from industry The announcement of its formation should contain an invitation to scientists to participate in certain phases of research Its appellation should be such as not to be tagged as a GAMA sponsored group The Committee should be empowered to award grants for research Projects 1S _ agp considered are already being conducted in various fields as susceptible sources of pulmonary infection Mr. Sabourin also referred to accusations levelled at the ill effects of gathering called asbestos dust accusations which are er ket strength and publicity in various quarters on both continents ea Dr. Wright was then asked to take the floor Dr. Wright explained how serious the causative role of asbestos in the belief production of that industry cancer appeared to desires to protect be and He expressed the prevent injury to Toee ete Prete NS welt nly encesiyiesly FO . ~ " nal bk cd Ona ee . aA E LY OT tyre me ee OAALO DTN AD ned age Y. te g er OE /^' its people To this end besic information on the biological effects of asbestos fibroer the lungs and in the development of cancer is badly needez v.5 the Co enhagen Chest Symposiut end of August the Vierre Occusational Health Symposium September and world's Cancer Symposium October have the esbestosis and pleural plaques problem on their respective programs What can the Committee do Not berch work but it can direct research ; TE ee - . aa : interest How can it interest people to work= for the Committee By direct contact with research pe ple and The _ direct grants to foster research , Federal Government in United States is currently supporting seventeen projects . on the bislogical effects of asbestos| The Committee knows the labor supply in this particular field and how to stimulate scientists It needs funds to proacte work in this field as in the 7 case of Dr. BcDonald's study for which oo oo veeIr, Ty ke tee 15 the funds will be payable to McGill University during three years How to inform the scientific world and the public at large It is suggested that at some time s short statement be released to the scientific journals on the composition and objectives of the Scientific Committee its scope etc. Lay persons could then quote from the scientific journals For the time being is be this an interim committee that can dissolved at any moment eventually it can become a permanent committee Dr. Colton a highly reputed scientist- working for the U.5 Covernment is one who could In short be invited before any to join release the Committes " is issued the full organization of the Institute should be completed The Scientific Committee would like the Association to inform the Committee to what extent it mey expect that some research grants can 7 ee ee one When ache f.00. Fartians ro oa Sass Nr tern ene BK nT . elt. nar mae 16 be made available to the Committee for the Committee to farm out projects to research workers of which theries a distinct dearth Dr. Beattie was then asked to say a few words In his remarks Dr. Beattie reviewed the experience of the textile industry in England The Government had asked the engineers of the industry to dreft a code of practice yet after several years was it found that asbestosis wes still a problem and that it oe had injurious effects on the lung Dr. Beattie also summarized . what took place in England over a period of ten years as to | cancer incidence He submitted that a certain amount of basic research is necessary and that the personnel must be obtained without imposing too much direction. that freedom of action and s certein power to spend money on a res a rapid decision is required a 4 that budget for grants need not be too large nor extravagant _ 7 . ; ee Do ee 8% et . aT. era, PS oe pap tT etcoeg gswena Set EN SEM MY Sem /? that asbestos mining should not be considered in isolation to others since it may be recessary to refer to silicosis as a tool of research on asbestosis The iron and steel industry should also be interested _ The Chairman of the Occupationaanld Environmental Health Committee Mr. Lindell followed Dr. Seattie and explained the background of the present heelth research project He stated that for the past thirty years Counsel had been the adviser on the asbestos problem Upon his appointment as a o , Chairman he undertook to visit with the docters and specialists in this field to assess the work being done In the course of these visits it was found that Dr. McDonald could conduct an epidemiological survey in the Quebec asbestos mines A proposal was made and advice sought from competent people through the Antigua Conference Following which z scientific group was formed to advise and review the terms of reference of this project This rae: has recently been finalized It is agreed that the Scientific Committee should be independert and propose while GAMA should dispose In other words the 74 _ : : cine eC RD: Sart ea eI mre Ace mren eperh. e 18 Chairmains not prepared to recommend that the Association write a blank cheque The name of the body should be broad enough as to allow other industries to join in due course since the problem in the esbestos is rather minimal authorize The Chairman then asked the Directors to additional funds for Dr. McDonald's study in the amount of 80,000 spread 230,000 over three years as of October 1st 1966 total of and to approve the hiring of Dr. Pelner on a full time besis at the salary of 25,000 per year Adopted The suggestion was further made that the amount of 80,000 could possibly be stretched to a maximum of 100,000 for the overall project As recommended by Drs Wright and Beattie it is also agreed } that the publicity made be released mainly through scientific journels said publicity to be finalized at a joint 4 meeting of the Scientific Committee with the Public Relations Committee of the Association ADJOURNMENT There being no further business meeting adjourned. MINUTES OF THE 98th MEETING OF THE QUEBEC ASBESTOS MINING ASSOCIATION HELD ON MONDAY SEPTEMBER 26 1966 AT THE CHATEAU FRONTENAC QUEBEC CITY P.G. Presents Messrs J. Messel R.S. Coleman K.V. Lindell J.A. Main P.A. Meyer W.M. Dughtred . I.C. Campbell R. Hebron W. Foster J.R.M. Hutcheson A.L. Penhale L. Piuze D. Poirier A. Prus P.H. Riorden C. Robinsor I. Sabourin P.A. Filteau Minutes of the 97th Meeting of the Association held on approved Maj 28th 1966 were Technical Committee The Chairman reported that a meeting of his committee was held on September 13 at which time work of committees was reviewed and can be summarized as follows a Oil Absorption Test - Work is proceeding with a ree selection of asphalt vehicles b Fibre Strength Unit Test - Variations from the standard , procedure followed in company laboratories are under review and an attempt is made to achieve greater reproducibility . c Filtration of Asbestos - Results show that someother approach should be attemptad| Search for this sort of measurement should - continue , Sons . . ~ Loe e -2 d Eagnetic reviewed Rating and in Procedure - This procedure must be this connection a meeting of the ASTM- 13 Committee will be held on October 19 E<ditorial committee - Mr. G.J. Foy of the Provincial department of Natural Resources has offered to revise drawings of testing equipment and have same eccepted An invitation has been received from Ottawa to hold meeting of the Technical Committee at the Office of the department of Fines and Technical Surveys it is planned similer to a hold meeting there later on this fall A invitation has been received through Mr. G.J. Foy to hold a meetinign Quebec At a meeting held in Montreal the week of September 18th Cassiar Asbestos Mines offered to turn over to GAMA the results of their technical research the matter will be - oe brought up at the next Technical Committee Reeting 221 rn a to The ASTM Committee has appointed task forces cr review the surface ares filtration and sampling test procedures and Mr. M. Cossette it is reported has been named that the work is progressing on the Sampling Task Force 5 The next regular meeting of the ASTM Committee will wsitabvnote be held in Bogota Columbia It is important that ao representative of the Association attend this meeting is in order to assist in reviewing present procedures and at possibly prevent any orientation in the thinking of the | committee which might eventually be detrimental to the + we ageing: ; : Ca: CO eR tm = ara . a 7 Association It is proposed that Mr. sttend meeting and that an amount alloceted for said trip Adopted J.R.K. Hutcheson of 1,200.00 be Uniform Classification and Grading Committes T The Chairman reported that the work of the Sherbrooke e e Labcretory was new University proceeding normally he pointed out that @ salary scale had been proposed as of July 1st 1966 and in view of the Association's agreed policy in this aE respect authority to adopt the new scale for laboratory eT granted technicians is Under the new scale total salaries - rete for technicians will increase from 25,600.00 in 1965-66 to <p 29,000.00 for 1966-67 Ne 4 eh . Doctor Massey of Sherbrooke University mishes to undertake - if a research Exposure program It has on Diseases Associated with Asbestos been agreed that the Director of the GAMA Lab would operate with Dr. Massey and provide samples when available Mr. Cossette to be requested to keep Dr. . Pelnar advised _ oan as As to the purchase for Ottawa it was of The Zeiss Particle Size Analyzer impossible to avoid duty and taxes and an ONO as a result the price will be approximetly 4,300.00 After a review of discussions which took place at of the Committee held during forenoon of September concerning the problems inherent in new methods of classification to supplement the present G.S. type mesting 26 fibre of enett paestn parte nap ane mo Ae = re eenl Rae meanomen a ee out em 8 @ a camne il gy Se % . 3 . ee aa wre Theta a De EES ep -- leet Oe meee parE DD MD ~ en, whe classification such as F.S. U. agreed in principle to introduce McNett & Colour it has the POINT VALUE units been system Industrial Relations Committee The Chairman advised that the brochure on noise prepared by Mr. Lachance has been distributed to all companies His regular report has also been mailed Noise surveys by the engineer are under way at some locations The regular dust surveys are continuing and the purchase of the automatic dust counter is in process eparnets Rine safety code revisions have been sent to the General . Kanager for forwarding to government with the recommendation . | } that the jurisdiction remains with the Department of Natural Resources ; ; A meeting of the Committee is scheduled for October and it : is planned to have the engineer lead a general discussion . on ventilation and noise problems <r No serious problems with W.C.C One member company dealing { directly with the Board has been advised that the incapacity 4 granted to one of its employees for loss of hearing had been ; substantially reduced An invitation to visit the various asbestos operating mines has been extended to the Commis- ; ; sioners and their top staff an 3 ; NIRS Seg Oe oa . he S Pa t aPy gine Pt - . ate. _ww wer~ (OTE ee nigra ecm, . 4 og 4 -50 Following request received from Natural Resources approvel has the Departmenotf been granted to the change in classification of Mr. Marc Foy General Superintendent Mine Restue Stations to grade 24 at an amuel selery of 9,000.00 Ressrs E.K. C'Brien Asbestos Corporation Limited and D.C. Strachan Canadian Manville Co. Ltd have been appointed es representatives of the Asso- ciation on the Provincial Advisory Committee for study of the Canadian Electrical Code Part V. the , Traffic Committee The Chairean as pleased to report that at a westing of the Corcittee held in Montreal on the 21st of September the following items were discussedi a _ an Uritization Pelletization for oversess . shipments - It was reported that several shipping conferences had indicated their interest in accepting unitized shipments of asbestos with a view to a reduction in freight rates The Traffic Committee agreed that this was not feel that worthoyf investigation but any progress could be asde did in this regard until such time as members had agreed upon standardization of units ' loads which they did not feel qualified to study Accordingly it was recommended . ns : ss gS + emtntigtOe I es Tn TO netae POT ad ST SENET EM Newe2re0 rs yap eer re tte. ree me ated ' -60 to the Directors that such a study should be ; instituted by the Technical Committee to which the matter was referred b c d 120,000 - 1b rates- It had been agreed that application should be made on a joint basis to both the C.K.R. and Q.C.R. for the establishment of 120,000-1b rates to Officiel Territory in the a formel request United States for such rates However was awaiting the approval of one member General rates - Both Railroads and Ocean Carriers have faced substantial increases in wage costs this year and it is expected that all rates on the carriage of asbestos are likely to be increased in the near future Already certain domestic rail rates switching charges and winter surcharges have been increased and Australia notification has been received from Zealand Conference of an increase amounting to 15 The prospect of all these increaseR points up the importance of improving packaging and material handling procedures in order to reduce the carrier's cost as well as our own in order that rates may be kept within reason , United Kingdom regulations- The Chairman reported that it was expected that new regulations governing the handling of asbestos in the United Kingdom would ee . iat nS nel boats Re ee Tot NONE + OS ters re ees I ant, -7- shortly be issued and that in his opinion this would require all esbestos to be packed in : impermeable bags Legislation and Texation Committee Appointment with the Premier of the Province for the purpose of submitting brief on Belanger Commission Report will be asked as soon as tentative dates can be mutually agreed with OMMA It is also proposed to continue to collaborawt iteh OMMA on tax metters Public Relations Committee A meeting of the and the Chairman Committee indicated was that held on August 23rd the members favoured a together with Institute of Dec. & the Scientific Env Health to Committee of the discuss publicity relative to the establishment of the Institute . At this same meeting it was agreed that the P A would undertake the production of an inexpensive Counsel handout for Expo 67 Ostusatinnal end Environmental Health Committee & complete report on the International Conference on Chest Diseases which was held in Copenhagen from August 20th to 25th was given by the Chairman of the Committes The Association was represented at this symposium by the Chairman and Legal Counsel Also present were . *.- . tea we: 2 - pak CE t re Lite ae : Le wee a o Doctors Cartier Smith Beattie Noto Meurmen and Davis Dr. Selikoff and associates adressed the symposium on the new subject of asbestosis and cancer was brought out and it seems that Nothing strikingly the importance of the QAMA participation created a favourable impression Counsel informe thde meeting that Dr. P. Kotin a highly considered scientist connected with several 0.5 Govern- ment Health Agencies had unofficially accepted on the Scientific Committee of the Institute of to sit Occu- pational and Environmental Health This is indeed a major acquisition for the Institute At this point Counsel reported on the incorporation of the Institute and the granting of letters petent by the Provincial Government The appointmenotf the - directors of the Institute was also discussed Just Abatement Committes Appointment of members of Committee is moved 1s follows ; J.R.M. Hutcheson Chairman . H.W. Foster Member L. Piuze Member ' ADOPTED : A Task Force has already been appointed at the Jeffrey Aina to investigate dust problems around the plant C.da Ma is willing to table reports on work done so far provided ; othermombers agree to do the same Approved unanimously 3 : ed 3 a i I + etn A = AN EC NORA AD wr cel et ns e per n Te TSF Chae" Te . Py Le . Ns ee. Nyores eee . a PO ee ee w oe vor ee oe e eT ee QAMA Constitution Should Associate Membership in the Association be made possible through an appropriate resolution or an amendment to the Constitution If new law is required it should be written in terms as broad es possible so as to provide variations in basis or conditions of admission . The question to be decided at next meeting Expo_67 Expo_67 Plans are now more or less finalized sing at a rather slow pace Work is progres- Membership in Prudentia Since most member companies belong to Prudentia there is no need for the Association to become a member NEW BUSINESS Remuneration of Association Treasurer 4 , ; , In view of the amount of work involved it is moved and seconded that effective September 15 1966 the treasurer be remunerated at the rate of 250.00 a month ADOPTED It is understood that the Treasurer will attend all regular and special meetings of the Association _ . oon. oS age ee p eh SNm Mm cece cranes idm oa mapten emen m T OE T . Sheree Rated - othe er ae cg . . . . - 2 ae COS ee, Tete 25 ECA ST teapot 3g BIOEE Cees tO tne _ -10- Accounting and Budget Procedures The Notes on proposed accounting and budget procedures as propered end circulated by the Treasurer were reviewed and commented In line with suggested modifications as to proper approval of expenditures a revised document will be prepared and circulated to Directors Chairmen of Committees and Counsel Such procedures must be implemented for the sake of effective control of expenditures accurate accounting and prompt payment - of accounts It is agreed that the annual budget of the Association and Institute for the ensuing year should be submitted for approval at the November Meeting of the The Chairmen of the Committees the General to forward to the Treasurer by November the Association| Ranager etc. 10th of each year estimates of expenditures to be incurred ~ during the following year Accounts for approval : (7 a - Editorial Associates Limited - May 31st - June July August 5 350 04 5 810 49 5 350 44 959 15 . Contribution to St. George 23 470 52 Club Christmas Fund 25.00 . ADOPTED oo a F. FF 5 fs 4 -t e Sore nS at B a ' oH ott OS once Caco pew . cone . + comets 5 . nr merzz / teens eek . - ~ ate we np ee Re OO es ae ee : tote ee ETE, Ate -11- September - In view of C.H. McNaughton's retirement on 30 the following motion was proposed * BE IT RESOLVED that the name of Mr. Frank A. Cunnington be added to the list of Officers who are authorized to sign cheques on behalf of the Association ' and that the name of Er C.H. McNaughton be deleted therefrom on September 30 1966. Adopted Pines Finisters Conference At this conference held in John K.B. September 18-21 the General Association on the Manager exposed the views relative jurisdictions of of the the Mines and Oppartments of the Province with respect to cine safety and inspection interest weres Other discussions of aa a The effects of noise on mine workers health - b The generalizing of the use of the Drager 174 , oe equipment for Mine Rescue work c Uniform tax base for Federal -- Provinciel fiscal matters d Reczuitment and retention of mining personne iln mining operations Canadian Council of Resource Ministers Conference A preliminary meeting to the Conference sponsored hy 7 To eaerry, Le ot 2 ate som . - . Nategs > 4 Re Ce a cre EA ae a 7 os Pee rg Ee 4 ate pee: cat, -12- The Canadian Council of Resource Ministers on Pollution and Our Environment was held in Quebec on August 12 meeting which the General Manager attendeThde Confer- ence will be essentielly and almost exclusively a meeting of experts and specialists in this field at which e small number of representatives of Government and Industry will participate The President of QAMA to be invited Dates October 31 Kovember 4 , The Next Special Winter Meeting Proposed dates for the are February 1-2-3-4 ; | Hilton B.W.I. Text Special Winter tentative location : Meeting Barbados , , Next Meeting . The next meeting of the Association will be held on December 12th in Quebec City oo Adjournments . There being no further business the meeting adjourned - __ <r eec.mremnmnne-