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FILE NAME: Metropolitan Life (ML) DATE: 1935-1963 DOC#: ML206 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Met Life Services and Insurance Coverage to Asbestos Companies in Industrial Medicine and Hygiene & in Defending Compensation Claims for Asbestosis mi METROPOLITA! LIFE ERSRASCE COKPASY Frederick H. Ecker, PrajfcLdant lev York City. Anthoxjj J. Lam*, M.D. Assistant Medic*! Director. fhCft 14^0^4*4/ A* ':*rv*.-.'< v*tl,v faadlver Brown, Beq., ir I jfobatM*PTi!l, 9 Madlaon Avenue, le* York, I.Y. Dear Hr. Brown: 3ISMi2w&S-S V. i'*KT Many thanks Indeed for your latter of May 2Sth and the taro volases of the indeed to get this record of the case of Batlar. I * vary aaterial and appreciate your courtesy In glad sand* m&r lag it to se. I aa no back in Mew York for good end hope to drop is and see you soae tine In the near future* As you are probehly aware, there are a great aany of y these suits being filed, particularly in Boeheptar* Z here had several attorneys and other interest peopls cone to na. for such adrice as I could give thee. These people always *fk-.If^X. can refer then to others ho have had siadjar xperlaneas. I 'hr'alwaysf. refrained fro aactioning the Johns-MarnriUe Cop4nyor anybody1^ if connected with it in any way hut t a wondering whether there > wight not be sons advantage in a cowannity of interests, so to" speak, for after all aisery lovea ooapaoy. p'm Mr. Folger of Harris, Beach, Volger, Bacon and Keating, 40 Franklin Street, Bochaater, Mew York, Attorney for the lew York Central Railroad, le handling a great many of these eases. A Mr. Bardigg of the Awerican Society of Mechanical Engineers is trying to get up eoae eort of a Manufacturers' Defense Association cm behalf of the abrasive industries, and a Mr. de Blois, who used to be the head of the safety depertwent of the Dupont organisa tion is also trying to get together sons organisation for the benefit of the fioheatr infaqtarers. .......Iwm. ,W . or tude thetc heta'ihtihe'pancia V-ft nJi*>x0 wm:7',. (3 aincerely^r (Signad) A.y, Lsnsa 'O* !' . V'' t . - , -Jtf- . Class or Savior TU> Ji JuDxn Tlqpr or Gatfe* B_a_lo_i_tobdto**- b?* uiable tethe eddweT . -. < \jm t -> . - : 'ml*- ' -*.V ,,JL, + Kl * V. * .. . O j * a* * ..v S.^L- .*:<*>* *. i - ' ^ ' --- - .. ' 'i <***u - . > ! lr-: ; B Y DIRECT WIRE F R O M - TMtMM *m tvw* n u * < 'S S10NS J D>CtI-- 'rfv HH-NkWM-- i. :.r% JCK!.CLT-**CHhb*KhnUiL>J--iCtkuU. _ Sdptotopw- ri+i..". m u?- afr *' -V/ STOP AT -CHIELESTOB KHRODTE HOSE? MESSRS *MITCHELL `AHIT'JEFFORDS YEKI AH2I0US TO TILS i m 100 KEGABDUG SOITS COIOBG OP'H0fEER; '-IE FEHE. YEEX3E0CH DISAPPOINTED AT DECISION HOT TO HAYE A HETRQPOU*^** i:| i-CREAT IASI USPEOYEXEHTS IK PREVENTING DOST AT CHARLESTOH THICH X $BIH2L.3D0 HILL BE MUCH SURPRISED AT ASD FROM AS IKSOIUHCE-STAHTPOIST^^ :,YEHJ MUCH GRATIFIED* B0TH-0F TOO SB00ID INSPECT THH'AUDvI^HOOLD 'rDIKE TO HAYE OOR PERSOHAL '.TO STOP CHARLESTOH FOR WOULD PAX EXPEHSES I 0 U A H D ;-r=v.. . ." I ; /. *.i| *.*r *' TT- ri m'T vi THECpHEAKYWILLFUCSATX50GGESTIONSFEOMITSBATSONSCONCERNINGITSSOLVICX^ * [* * $ '7 7 ft r _- Bridgeport,, Conn, October 19, 1935 Dr* it* J p McConnell, Ass't. Metileni Director, Industrial Health Section, Mebropclit.-.n life' Insurance Co., How lork City, My deci Dr, McC'jnud.lli stfcjE Asbestos Dust at North Charleston Plant, As you kro?, our plant i t North Charleston, as veil as the other Divisions, h-kir* bean working with your Corapany for a long time in tho .aorydiring of information, addleal end other wise, regarding Asher. T` m r *# ^Ay,A,U**v*JpVH*c: ; A f Vn f <' /**.? { *. Via huvo had number of suits, re you arc aware, for which you ha7c assist*.;] ui to prepare , and cl the; last trial, your Hr. jVnnel fee.'reified, YVe have depended on y .ur Company to present certain informaLioii that our attorney, Hr. Julian Mitchell, of Charleston, C. C. .derired, end wo were-, at standstill to kx.cn'. v.hut to do and cany on vith these suit:, for X again say we had depended on your Company's assistance.. Hatavnliy, we were very much upset last v.eek when iL-. Jeffords reporter that v.c could not liApoet any court assistance from your department, due to order you had r-i>coivdd fiox your superiors, Y*'e imraeciiately wantud to have you talk over the situation with Mr. Mitonoil, to se* what he could co, rr.u when they got in touch with ub and. waked v.hat 1 thc.u;.pit of subpoena ing Hr. Fohnol, 1 told then frankly that it looked to me as if that was the only thing we could do, if we were going to have the help of Mr. Fennel in these particularly important, cases. It may look odd to you that this subpoena was served, but rsally there was nothiug else for us to co, and I could not sta any other way out under the eircunstanccs, after Ur. Mitchell had pointed out v.hat it was going to mean to him to have Ltr. Feline*1 there. I do hope you will take this into consideration and that the assist ance of Ur. Fohuel will be given us very cheerfully, I can recogniLC the- positi ;r. of the insurance com pany in testifying in ordinary cases of this Kind, but as I see it, these particular cases of ours at Churierton really come into a different category. Wo carried Cosnensation and Health Insurance with ''your Corapany when these suits were first brought up at Charles- ton, and of course, under the policies, vu vere not covered against damage suits for-Asbostosls. ' The Metropolitan Insurance Co., nor no other insurance company in th United Utates, had any data that v/ns worth very much on Asbestos Bust or Asbustosis, and naturally your Company wanted health statistics and information regarding Asbestos Dust on the lungs, Our Company vroa more then willing to cooperate with . you, and ve also induced Johns-Man1ville to cooperate, end your Company started vrith a Dust Survey of a number of the asbestos plants, Yitien your appropriation for tnis work ran out, you request ed that it be carried on unt'l a new appropriation uould uo squared by your Company, and we did so. Later on, v/e hired a cion, Mr* Binder, to work under your control, but at the expense of Johns-Uanviile and ourselves. This all led us to believe that under the conditions, we would have your assistance in trying these unfair suits, which would eventually bo a benefit to you, ana also have considerable bearing on the Bust racket, about which so much has been published lately. I fcol ns If your Company has not taken into consideration all these various factors when turning down our request for Mr. Fehnel*s pres ence at the-, trie If. in. Chari*st.on lir, Fehnel being the only man who has been following the details of the AsbestosDust through all its various ramifications' Natuurraallly, i,f v/o could have foreseen the attitude the Metro b*J 4*tun In suranca 1 late date > Vii w oulci hAV all the d ta v.hich your spont. 1erge seens to msk your asti stance X Co not believe that by Mr. Fehnel testiiying at Char leston; it will establish a precedent, ash it is: hardly likely you will have this type of case ccrou up aain for a.any years, and I am also certain it is very questionable if you will get the esme amount of assistance fiom any tv/c companies that you havo been get ting from Johns-iUmville and ourselves, and moreover, it was our intention to draw in other asbestos companies in this survey as noon as the tine was right to bring them in, and this would moan a tram endows amount of information On Asbestos Dust and Ashes tor;is in the posse:;.sion of the Metropolitan Insurance Co., who would be the only ones in tho United States, so far os we know, having this in formation. I have been trying to gut in touch with my friend, Mr. Janes h. Kavenagh, Vico President of the Metropolitan Insurance Co., to endeavor to have him make an appointment with Mr, Leker, your President, so I con go over tills matter with him very care fully end thoroughly, and 1 hope to be able to do so next Tuesday. Unfortunately, I shall be av-v.y the* latter port of this week. r*r** r* DO-- U* Very .truly yours, President /i M etropolitan Life1In su r a n c e Co m pan y F r e d e r ic k H. Ec k e r , President N ew Y o rk C ity WILLIAM J. McCONNELL.M.D. A s s is ta n t .M s J ic a l < V ir rc to r O c t o b e r 28, 1935 Ur. 8. Simpson, President, Raybestos-Manhattan, Inc. Bridgeport, Conn. Dear Mr. Simpsoni This nill acknowledge your letter of October 19 I shall be very pleased to see you Tuesday when you are in New lork. I assure you that arrangements had been made to assist your company in the present litigation. Very truly yours, r 3 ' '' J. McConnell, M.P. Assistant Medical Director Director, Industrial Health Section i iWi&iiti<niin.UliMliiiil.li.iiirtyuj.mHnitoi h{ 1. 7 ( t"] ' 4 %' r W Bridgeport, Conn. October 51, 11)56 livm L. II. Jefiordc, General Manager, General Asbestos & Rubber division, llorth Che.rlerton, G. C. My a ear "Jeff11: I have your letter .of the 7th, with reference to visit of Dr. H. F, Wilson, a -representative of the South Caro lina Board of Health, at which time, he requested that permis sion be given to the United States Department of Health to make nn examination of the plant and take Xrny pictures of our employees. I have no objection to his making an inspection of the factory, but I hesitate at this tine to permit an Xroy ex amination of all our employees, for if there Xrt.y records are going to be mace available to all the shyster lawyers and doc tors in the county, such as v.e have t-iv.-n up against the Inst couple of years, v.e nay have a n .cnalo.'ss number of suits against us, espe cially ns there arc.so i'ev. cpialified doctors who can rare, un asbestosis Xray. This was verified to me in Peterborough this ta..;, when I was talking to L-r. Faulkner, Ooi.rr.isrloner of Health for the Province of Ontario, when he told mo there wore practically no doctors that could tell the difference between scst\.stor cast and granite oust. 'For our own information, I should like to have an Xray of .l. the*, employees, and if v.v could get this information from the United States Department of Health without it being piucta in the lianas of every "Torn, Lick r.nd Harry" in the country, I would be-willing to let them mono the Xroys, as it would be one way of getting them without arousing very much suspicion on the part of the employeas. It would, no doubt, be inlerprotec s hav ing some connection With the Social Security Act, but I certainly no not want to bring a lot of suitr down on us just about the lino v,a are getting through with the old ones. 4 J a.-T ' p ('.r- *t a 3 V 4 GG-G. Am sending copy of this letter to Mr. Mitchell. W r y truly yours, ?. S. Have received a letter from Mr. Mitchell jna '-r:vc v.rit- tan him : per enclosed copy. You can hold up answer to the Health Department until v>e ho .r from Dr. Sanaa, t- r iP h/i W. V * * _ 4 . .* v * *. > Octob 1936 Hi Uwmr'tBfi Julian Mitchell, 3sq., Mitchell and Horlbeck Charleston, S. C. Dear Hr. Mitchell:-- It was a great pleasure to hear from you this morning and I have read your letter with much interest. I knew something of this mat ter because It comes under the jurisdiction of Dr/ R. R. Seyers of the Public Health Service, who is in charge of the Office of Industrial Eygiene in the Service, which whom I have worked in close cooperation*for over twenty years. I happened to meet him in Harrisburg the other day and ha told me that the State of South Carolina had asked his assistance In making 8 survey of industlal plants in that State. } I think this will be very much, to your advantage. Dr. Saysrs mas hed wide industrial experience end enjoys the highest favor end /confidence of Industrialists end employers all over the United States. /~7ih9ther he will make X-ray examinations of employees, I do not know, (but Iwill ask Dr. Sayers, when he goes to Charleston, to get in touch \with you. The Public HealthService Reports rigorously fol.low a stenuerd form, that is, their reports are published without mention cf the firms or localities surveyed .so that the identities of plants stal led are not reveeled. Thinking you may be interested, I enclose e ccpy of the report that Dr. Sayers made on Anthro-silicosis in the anthracite regions of Pennsylvania. This study was made at the joint request of the mine operators1 association end the labor organizations. You will remem ber that when our asbestos study was published in the Public Heelth Re ports, we simply referred to Plants, A, B, C, D, therein following tie stancard procedure of the Public Health Service. . No indivuduals* records ere ever divulged by the Government, You may recollect that the Pi char Clinic in Oklahoma was run jointly by the Public Health Service, the mine operators, and the Metropolitan, e hed in pur files the physical examination r cords of more than 50,000 individ uals, ~e were often solicited by interested parties to permit them tn have access to our records end our reply was always the seme,namely, tbtt they were Government records and not available for any purpose what soever, with the single exception of the United States Marshall in the pflrformance of his duty in trying to apprehend criminals. I am sure ihat the Federal Department would not make available individual records to the State Boer: of Health. As a rule, the Public Heeltb Service studies ere published but I believe that this is not en invariable custom, depending upon their number end their general interest. Please give my very best regards to Hr. Jeffords and .with best wishes, I am, Sincerely yours A.J.Lenze, H D. Assistant Medicel Director t>\rJ*?./'ll ; -- 61 NvV 3 -iM T p ' / i) - ./ . / C H 0480 Ei ^ J'Z- November 5, 1936 Hr. E, H. Joffords, General Manager, General Asbestos & Rubber Division, North Charleston, S, C. My dear "Jon*1: I suppose you have received from Mr, Mitchell a copy of Dr. Lansa's 'letter regard ing taking Xray pictures of our employees by the United States Department of Health. In viev, of .this letter, you may ad vise the Public Health Service that they may take the pictures, with the tinderstan ding that they are not available for any purpose whatever except public health information, and you want to stress the fret that tve do not v.ant them giv en to shyster lawyers' and doctors so as to be the subject of suits, for, as you .now, v,e have had enough adjustments for any one company. Wo arc perfectly willing to help them in every possible way, but they in turn must help us so fur us they cun legally do so. Very truly yours, So-G. Cc. to Mr, Julian Mitchell. 1 ' > U \ * */ . -\Sk; . . >*t V .. f ' 'v-VS-i ..-IT-.* . ^ ' ::,V- December William J . Fehnel, Esq*, ..J :.^/v t. C/o Jiygieno Division, Metropolitan Life Insurance Co, !'Madison avenue j . ; ' New York City'.. t... i / ./` . V 1 , y *: r < Dear Bill*- 29th, 1942. . /. ./r- .'"'-Wv *.v\- S V . ' <i** : ' . M V *. ;-y >&; *-&S I am enclosing herewith a letter which I have written'i to Dr. Lanr.a, and would like you to read, end knowing that ho !, is now in the service of his Country I aa asking if you would-. do me the favor to forward it to him, and wliat I h:'.ve said in \ that letter about tho valuable services ho has rendered I can. ' also say with absolute sincerity that the services which you have rendered in helping e g out of -ithose cases in the past have been equally as valuable, and yon hive made a great many per sonal sacrifices to be present to testify ohd assist us* Per sonally I do not see how a man v;ho is gaining in eight and wor. ing at tho kind of, Job he has at the Navy Yard, down in the ' holds of ships, can.be suffering from Asbestosis, though Dr. . Smith in the letter he wrote to Mr. Mitchell said he was dis abled as a result of the disease he had. With ray best regards,'* Vary sincerely you.1;,, P.S. I presume that you will receive this lottT by-about 12 or 1 o*clock tomorrow. I will telephone you at the office of the .Metropolitan Life Insurance Company at ab.*ufc 3 o 'clock. I \ 7 m Y} !* i - 7 1 ' 1 I M-, v. December 29th, 1942, .**V , M * DiAVr*s.os.tirsAa.tapnoJ.ltitaiD/na.oncrIl.iicnip,f.eI DInisruercatnocre,' Co.,' . 1. " / * H1owladloirskenCAitvyc.., =' : .. .' f bear Dr. Lanza r * V r?3l.H*t*, u:'. !' ' 'sVtfV r%* `A. \1q m ay possibly have another suit based'on'alleged ** X- '! Asbestosls' by one , T,, Hill, who v/orked with us-for-a good many years, auJ who wns treated by Dr. T'ilrl for pleurisy, nd. v;ho only received during the time he worked with us sick benefits . ` .1. amountln to r little less than $10.00, -and left our employ to take h. very arduous position with the-Havy Yard at Charleston, where he is still employed ilo'vover, Dr. `V. A. Smith,> whom I consider to bo a crank on the subject of Asbestesla,.for as soon X, as he finds out that, any dne lias worked for the Asbestos Company, iio -puts him clown as suffering from a case of Asbsstools, has not only'told us tliat this- party has Asbestosiu, iron, which ho will uio, bat he told the party himrelf that he-was suffering 'from Acbcntosis. iri A'.picture of .this man's eldest wan taken by Dr. Taft gepto'-ibor, 1941, and another in November, 1942, and Taft's report gives no indication of any condition cue to his employment, {o'- . ever, \*o are getting hr. Taft to send his pit-tea on to Dr. c-aricio- Cast, to v;hom you doubtless will, remember you reforred us to some yearn ago, so as to got another .reading mid interpretation of these " yla too and in.-iiTiUch ns this bl.ltn may vind up in .the Courts, I am , vritinr, you .'ith* the .hopes that you may bo able to render us. that 'assistance which her. been so invaluable to us In the past. .-'ith my regards,. 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V'-'lvcre Urovn, Sscr^ry -- v , . .*11- W <. * " w R a y b e s t o s - M a n h a t t a n .In c . n Ife6, li 120 Iroadnj, Bow Xork January 19,19**. ^ / '- t //. i i\ i / Ltroy 0/^ dSordina-r, B.D. Diroetor, tho tarahnoiaboratory / for U m Study of fubsrouloala oIftfatihMa IUdvka>rd} LB.ovTXroodrk. a foundation, Poor Pootor Oordaor, ; f 1/ Baplylag to your lottor of January 12th asking to ho paraittad to aako surray of tho fllao of Maabala suplojsas, would adviN that Pootor U u u hoa them fllao la hlo poiimloa aod It would ho ootlsfantory for you to i w Vj v than and oystoaatioally rooord any ooangoa or othor inforootloo that you Utah to obtain. Thorn oro oloo ooao fllao at Kanhoia that hara baan tokan of proapaotlra aaployaaa Oho hara uorfcod la otbar Induatriao that way hara teat hasard and tbaao ara la poaaaaaloa of tho Offloo at Naahala. Pa. and If you vaat to look at ooao of them, will you piaaaa ooataats- Rr* O.I. Oilloy, Assistant Bonerul Maaagar, Dnltad Btataa Aabeatoa Division of layheetoe-Bonhettan, Zoo., anhsia, Poanayvraala. and ha will ba rosy glad to ahov thaa to you. Of courao It la uadorstood that our mem will not ho aantlouad in any way in tho axoaiaatlon or' In your roport of tho flluo* For a aattor of your rooorda and tho Motropolltan Zaaaruaoo Copany \% la alright, tout 2 aaan gsnaral publication. Tours vary truly. IUKBPBrSo1a0ihd-aaUnMt UT7AB# IN0. JJM aifii aauu mtm .: 'f: ' The Sa r a n a c Laboratory FOR THE STUDY OF TUBERCULOSIS OF THE EDWARD l. TRUDEAU FOUNDATION Saranac Lake, N.Y. January 31, 1544 ::r. sr Siupson, President nr ybeftop-Mi;;h11r.:i, Ir:c J im w^' V 120 3rof.cV:&y, her orl: /j /7 ^ Dear Mr. Siuoson: I r.ppreciF.te very r.uch If tV-* *.->v ...V V* r . it ed r.iy o:i I er.i ;:rr.teful to you for e in the r.ir.tter' 0f revie" ees I e::pect to see Dr. w?**% i:i t0 Vive r p2,"2pge *w wo> LVi*.wc tC oossessior., your letter ^ ^ r --**;r. *V*j*. e I o n o t b e l i e v e tV.ot it " o u l d b e p r o f i t a b l e f o r us to r e v i e " the pre-er.vployr.snt f i l a c t h a t a r e at Msnhei.u r.s r e are p a r t i c u l a r l y c o n c e r n e d .j, n o w w L t h the e v o l u t i o n o:u ns'cc-otoc.iF. T rtV r 1 | ft* * ^*,*.*<5T.ag_i **c.<-/*ir*fr- "* L1i in in- *la'li*"<t.'i1p i -.'-r .i.<* n' rr" *,t;*-. *>* -v *- pub?.1saticn but cl::..a. .w niO'-leije ny inr.sbteCnecc tc a rrcup oT couisnies "he h-ve :.:r,iie such a study possible. h'lth beet wishes, Sincerely C Q 4 7 j t) ) -I IS '- \ J V.r; S. Sir.pson, President Raybestos-Manhattan,Inc, Stratford, Connecticut Dear Mr, Simpson: Re: Industrial Hygiene __ Foundation of America,Inc, After our conference in New York in January about the Metropolitan Life Insurance report on dust counts taken In the textile mill,.I arranged with the Industrial Hygiene Foundation of America to send one of their engineers here to take dust counts In various textile departments. T am ouoting from the summary from the Industrial Hygiene Foundation report:- "This is a report of a study undertaken to locate the most Important sources of dust ana to develop additional dust control measures at the Manheim plant of U, S. Asbestos Division of Raybesto s-Kanhattan, Inc , Sixteen dust counts were made in various departments. These samples indicate that conditions in the Picker House are not satisfactory but dustiness in the Carding, Spinning and Twisting Depart ments is less than 5 million particles per cubic foot. Recommendations are made that can lead to a reduction of dustiness in the Picker House as well as in the Carding De partment. It is believed that while the card room is under considerable negative pressure the consequent starvation of the exhaust equipment is probably not In itself sufficient to account for any marked reduction in control of dust." I am also including herewith a record of the dust the various departments. Picker House t -------- :---- At Pan Crushers Floor Eatching Batch feeding vertical opener 52 minute sample at central point of room for "general ir"-(near vertical opener) counts taken in Particles p e r c u .f t . 8.7 million 1.7 million 9.9 million 5.6 thill ion pr'0*1 ^ a r* tvb|*ct to thong* tn r* ip * cf o f d vtU i, * k c U * ' r1> ' 111* " '..I--* .-- ,.u . or o*Kr thorg**, h*r*oft*r tmpotad b y ony F*d*rol, Slot*, or Municipal owthortty, or b *<avi* of ff a/ n r ifiilfW u of flfty f ftditQl* g ! a , fif M w M p 'i! b**-*oH*/ a d p u d . ~ .fC * '* +. - j r ttj "'Jr. 1?2-Mr. S. Simpson Cardins General air conditions at various points in the 3rsaker Card Room Particles per cu.ft. 4.0 million General air conditions in Finisher Cara Room 2.8 million At a point beside the condensers in Breaker Card Room . 3.8 million At a point near the card condensers in the Finisher Card Room 4,3 million Along central aisle-Finisher Card Room 4.8 million Spinning - - - - At mules At L-Frames on 2nd floor At L-Frames on 1st floor 4.8 million 3.6 million 2.0 million Twisters Average for all aisles Universal Winders 4.0 million ' 3.0 million In commenting on this report on the phone, Mr* McMahon, Managing Direc tor of the Industrial Hygiene Foundation stated,that the control of dust in this mill was far above the average for an asbestos textile plant. He Indicated that a dust count under 5 million particles per cubic foot is good-. However we recognize that this is a continuing program, and we propose to first correct the conditions in the ricker House at those points where the dust concentration is over 5 million particles per cubic foot. We then propose to make some changes in the card room, which will result in further improvement. We are continuing to experiment with the application of oil to the fibre. We believe that this will result in further improvement throughout the plant. Please consider this as a preliminary report as I plan to advise you from time to time of improvements that have been made. A little later, after we have made some change.s suggested by the Industrial Hygiene Foundation engineer, we shall arrange with Mr. Fehnel, of the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, to make addi tional dust counts in our various departments. Yours very truly, \ ) `V ' WjfAV ,`" .*-*'1 P , , f;\`, v * J** * f ; > oK^l'af; tv , ' W r ' m n Si.v:.o,,,, j ilf-. ^ ( ' . ' . . ... a s u u m t w , ine., ) & t *%, ' r'-'<) i$al Pefendants, ) ip/y 1V **,> cv`>V ,>V '' 'K *'V>I '':> u' t \ * .t JHtfSfc*- :;I i M pHlv'^iv^1 ^ :'V) '',*.*."^ilfcWdtiii^..ii'j;.^iji J i . j ... 1defendants, i) W \ t ' - . . ... - J >, V , l`?Yii v'tvVr vit, > ir- .V1,.*?/;.>(}' v,|'l f i t ,,V :?j7., V-i.`.`W\ ''1*;, p ' <m : ' W \': 'if ' 1 :-jy li O? OA. KCNBTH WAT,TACS KMl'll . f e r . ----/>&>. .f:1 , > :'!' ,$ fa'* y* '-s j t m ;e>:an\in4ti.on, ,,* m *, r ' nV':!. - '*?$> l ^ i v i i Procedure, VtaUen*,^# 'p(v',\iv ; v M ' ,'>, 1( adiiprofessional Keportcf and M* wpJFi'* Richard K ,t?V > .t .. ip;';in: oi Pennsylvania, at foi JstfU ... / . ;, ` *> k r 'r., ^ fyA,j$nM9 duildiny, Pittslmryh,. nwnrv J.* . , .* *, V, ^*1. i i , 'tfiA% pifti&t t t ^ `loeU, a .n. ~ pM,rV,,'-, :n'Mft-n,'<rMw `. *' w ? ? :v c,Ar/<i$(ni *,T;* " -:' a n.fi > 'v%te`vv. ^ y Fi, '.: "tir"'. 'v-i:;:t:* 't.';i4< V ., * .* \ . Jv /.One''or two of the things on Dr . Lanza When did you firm e e t and inter-rolate professionally with Dr. Lanza, if * you can tell us? 1944. Whet ya$ Dr. Lanza doing at that tine? lie yes very active in the Medical Department of vhe Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, the Saranac Laboratc $hd Trudeau Foundation, and then or soon after the Schoo of Medicine at New York University. What vas the relationship at that time between Metropolitan Life Insurance Comp-my *nd Johns-:-Unvilie and Canadian Johns*'\invillc?_ Metropolitan Lite carried our genor.il in ince, and I toolioyo in those years it was both occupational and / r.on-occupat ional insurance in this country. Metropolitan I4fe sponsored surveys in various areas, especially mine workers in Quebec, asbestos mines. They carried our non-occupational group life insurance in Canada. Was the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company a part of the studies begun and continued at Saranac Laboratory? Definitely. LTH RES TEL No. Feb 14 ,90 15:42 N o . 002 P . l l 14 Smith ~ By Mr. Henderson Me{jpolitan Life Insurance Company and Johns-Manville and"canadian Johns-Manville? / * ***--> * v."'' A. Metropolitans Life carried our general insurance, and 1 .< believe in those years[it was both occupational and I hori-occupational insurance*in this country.';*'Metropolitan S Life sponsored surveys in various areas, especially mine workers in Quebec, asbestos mines. They carried^our non-occupational group life insurance in Canada. *\ Was.the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company a part o -- -- r~T:--- "-- ---- :-- T7 ... , \ . -studies begun and continued at Saranac laboratory? * VHL; , Definitely. Who else funded those studies, to your knowledge? The only other organisation that I can think of -- well, ,U * . . . . , .vr. ' , .. . aefinitely.the .Di 'S.iPublic Health Service, and.probably ` some monies from one or two trade organizations, such as the Asbestos Textile Institute, and perhaps the -- you will forgive roe!for -the exact names,-but*X believe it {'^.Vai^h^^sbe^pios\Cement- Products Institute,-National : M i A s s o c i a t i o n . Those are the trade organizations that were involved. Did Johns-Manville provide any of the funding for the V .j ;/`'^Saranac .Labortoicy's studies?1' . .'J. Yes, sir. Smith - by Mr. Henderson mu^Tmore fregttent afterwards at Saranac Lake; and they continued/ well, practically until idle titw `that' I left * JM in '66./ l What other early incidents occurred which you might be `V*.able to relate to\ us as the pieces whichpresented to you that persons other than employees were exposed to the hazards of asbestos? u You take me back a few years# but early in my career with CJM, in say '44 to '47/ Metropolitan Life was ': ' B- rconducting personnel.studies of employees' and* non* e< i * - . .. . ./ . . . ' k . . . my x v f in The^fiord and# to a lesser degree# in our town; and walking through the town of Asbestos on a dry August :day# you could see little rolls of asbestos fiber rolling , .f , .. ,*v. *v ^* *,* <# > ,* *^ ...*., v*., .?^ ** *. ** * along-the .'street' like tumbleweed# and you juat;assumed '- that anybody walking the streets, the storekeepers or policeman walking his beat or anybody in the house# would be exposed -tothat airborne dust. -And Ican -remember ** V i '**AP,' A. t V, # Stevenson, *`as our senior 'citizen# * ' s M M i n g ati!rthe edge of our open pit one day -- ( & Your open pit being -- A The asbestos mine, we were standing on the edge of.the . '" "open pit on the eastern side; The whole town of Asbestos was behind us# and of course the winds are constantly 1LTH RES TEL No Feb 14 .9 0 15=42 N o . 002 P.13 54 PI Smith - by Mr, Doriin 2 3 asgto the number of particles per cubic foot at the plant, 4 in Asbestos, Ontario? 5 6 7< ft 8 A. 9 May 1 just.reframe your question, sir. ' not Ontario. Asbestos, Quebec, i i Asbestos, Quebec.. ':. - A. Yes, there were studies done continuously concerning the - dust counts at the factory in Asbestos, Quebec. 10 ft When were these studies? When did these studies begin? IV A. I don'ttaow the exact date. \2 ft; .Approximately? . . "# ;r :/ * V ^ . a* A. The late '30s, early '40s. 13 I ^ > \ 1- 14 ft And they were done on a continuous basis? A, 15 16 Yes, primarily by Billy Thanrreil of the Metropolitan Life. V -,'h.t'~ * .v. V' Do you know who would have possession of the records of 17 18 A 19 20 21 those studies? Well, they might be still available through the Medical- Vftnft&t^f'the Metropolitan.Life*^They would be in t V a r c h i v e s of JM and Saranac Lake, and probably in the 22 library of the Hygiene Foundation here in Pittsburgh, ft 23 Did you ever have an occasion to go over the results of : ' those'studies at any period of time while'yoii'were workine 24 for Johns-Manville? Ivan A-Sa bo u r im , B. C.L..K.C. A n o **i G .S a b o u a in .LL.B. Sabourin & Sabourin Anorn>>s at Law SAINT-JEAN,QUE. July 6,1951. C*bl* AddraiiTuTIS" T*lphon*6A68 DDrir.eAcrtothru, rTrJu.dVeaourwFaoludn, dMat.iDon., a7nCdhTuhrcehSSartraeneatc, Laboratory, SUA.SR.AAN. AC LAKE, N.Y. 1 > .* -j Re: Dear Arthur, last week wWheichhadisacnonintitneureedstifnogr-*htheeartiinmgebbeefionrge. the board at Quebec appreciatioInhoadf caesrkteadinGpehoyrgsieoltoogcicoaml eanddowrnestpoirtaetsotirfyy dinattaerinmvoslvoifntghe lungs, the Mediasetine, etc. George however, could not make the trip. the prevailDinrg. cLoannfzuasiwonasahs etroethanisdsceoenmtriinbgultyedingcrreeaatsliyngtotweanrddesnccyletaoring aesctcaebpltisahnedal,leegveedn'iinf ctihdeenpcoessaibsialitfyacotf bthefeoerxeissatemnecehoafs tbheeeninsccidieenntcieficcaalnly cnoout lbdebdeerneieladt.edHteosltuantegdcaonnececro.u;ldHenohtelspaeydn"odredbeunnykiwnhg"ethceerrtAaisnbeasllteogseids" fIisgluesr.es, relating to cancer incidefnce in asbestos workers in the British -WarmestTregards 1, 1 IS/sd T. c/n Iv a An n d A .S a b r G .S o a URIN, B .C . L.,K b o UR1N ,L L .B . .C . Sal)ourin & S a b o u r i n Attorneys at Law S A IN T-JE A N ,Q U E . . ' July 6 1951 Cobl# Address'U TIS" T e le p h o n e -6 6 6 8 rir.eActrothru, rTrJu.dVeaourwFaoludn,dMat.iDon., a7nCdhTuhrcehSSartraeneatc, Laboratory, SUA.SR.AAN. AC LAKE, N.Y. Re: Labbe/^"*Dear Arthur, last week wWheichhadisacnonintitneureedstifnogr *th.heeartiinmgebbeefionrge. the board at Quebec appreciatioInhoadf caesrkteadinGpehoyrgsieoltoogcicoaml eanddowrenstpoirtaetsotirfyy dinattaerinmvoslvoifntghe lungs, the Medteisetine, etc. George however, could not make the trip. the prevailDinrg. cLoannfzuasiwonasahs etroethariisdsceoenmtriinbgultyedingcrreeaatsliyngtotweanrddesnccyletaoring aesctcaebpltisahnedal,leegveedn' iinf cthideenpcoessaibsilaitjyfacotfbthefeoerxeissatemnecehoafs tbheeeninsccidieenntcieficcaalnly ncoout lbdebdeerneieladt.edHteosltuantegdcaonnececro,ujldHenohtelspaeydn"odredbeunnykiwnhg"ethceerrtAaisnbeasllteogseisd fIisgleusr.es, relating to cancer incide*nce in asbestos workers in the British **-*V 4jj iiSNMFHAi IS/sd / T. February 21, 1952. Dr. Arthur J. Vorwald, Director of Research, The Trudeau Foundation, Saranac Lake, N.X., U.S.A. Re: Alphonse Labb vs Bell Asbestos Mines Ltd. Claim No: 75907 "Cancer and Asbestosis" Dear Dr. Vorwald, For your information, I am pleased to send you the following "confidential" report which as ybu may understand has no official character whatsoever; ' ... ' j This case was heard before! the full compensation Board cduring-3 full days;-February 12,- 13, and!, 14, 1952; the Belleipare group had 2 pathologists, 1 epidemiologist, 2 clinicians chesjb men as experts and Mr. Sabourin had Dr. Lanza. The hearing '...... '"32vK: ' y;/. 1 :. ^ ..: jr'-j.n summaryvthe - pathologists have certified that .the cancer 'in 'thejcase of was a pulmonary epithelioma anaplastic oi^oatycell" carejiomaVvarietyistating that it Was impossible to .................. "VvV-. ' ; /'*1 The other exDperts cerrttiiffii<ed that the causal t relationship between asbestosis and cancer of the lungs was probable and even certain;! I am anxious to know what Mr. Sabourin will bring in March and I am also anxious to discuss this1case with you at the first opportunity. i PC/JS Yours; very truly, Paul Cartier, M.D.