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s 86 1 Sayers 2 A. It stops slump. Once you apply the 3 paint to the wall, you don't want it running down 4 the wall. 5 Q. How did the RG-144 work as a thixotrope 6 compared to other materials out there? 7 A. Superbly well. It was infinitely well. 8 We proved that in the laboratory in Buffalo. 9 Q. What were some of the other materials 10 that were being used as thixotropes? 11 A. They were the fumed silicas. For 12 instance, Garosil [phonetic] from Degussa and 13 Cabotsil from Cabot Corporation over here in the 14 States. 15 Q. Were there other asbestoses that were 16 able to be used as a thixotrope the way Calidria 17 was? 18 A. No, simply because they were too gross 19 relative to the Calidria product. 20 Q. What do you mean by "too gross"? 21 A. The fiber diameter was too big. 22 Q. And the Calidria was -- so 1 understand. 23 it was small enough it could be used for this? 24 A. Yes, exactly right. 25 MR. BROWNSON: Objection, leading. 88 1 Sayers 2 marketing staff for the asbestos products at that 3 point in Europe? 4 A. It was never made fully clear to me. 5 Q. Did anybody tell you it had anything to 6 do with your performance as a salesman? 7 MR. LANIER: Objection to form. 8 A. No, that was clear that it wasn't. 9 Q. After the asbestos sales was phased out. 10 were you offered a new job with Union Carbide? II A. I was. 12 Q. What job was that? 13 A. To market pharmaceutical-type products 14 and also the acrylate range of the product. 15 Q. Did you initially take that job? 16 A. I did. 17 Q. 1 take it that you decided to leave at 18 some point thereafter? 19 A. Yes. 20 Q. Why did you decide to leave? 21 A. 1 wanted to pursue the paper technology 22 route in my career. 23 Q. The paper industry? 24 A. Paper industry, yeah. 25 Q. What were your feelings -- before 1 get 87 1 Sayers 2 Q. How did it happen that -- well, let me 3 ask a different question. For how long after you 4 moved -- you got this pro -- let me back up. 1 5 want to go through the chronology. 6 You wrote your memo in May of 1967? 7 A. That is so. 8 Q. And then you got your promotion and 9 moved to Brussels when? 10 A. In August of that year. 11 Q. So about three or four months after you 12 wrote the memo? 13 A. That's right. 14 Q. Then for how long after you were in 15 Belgium did you continue your efforts to market 16 Union Carbide's asbestos? 17 A. Till the fall of'68. 18 Q. And what happened in the fall of 1968? 19 A. The marketing rights were handed over to 20 the German company Degussa. 21 Q. By handing over the marketing rights. 22 what did that mean for your position? 23 A. It meant 1 had no job. 24 Q. Do you have any understanding of why it 25 was Union Carbide decided to stop having its own 89 1 Sayers 2 to that, let me ask you this: Did any of the 3 people you worked with at Union Carbide tell you 4 that you ought to leave or you ought to find a 5 different job? 6 A. No. They encouraged me to stay, but 7 equally they understood my desire to pursue my 8 desire. 9 Q. At the time you left Union Carbide then 10 in what, the summer of'69? II A. Yes. 12 Q. What were your feelings about the 13 company? 14 A. Oh, 1 was sorry to leave. They treated 15 me well, and 1 rated them to be an excellent 16 company throughout. 17 Q. A fter you left Union Carbide, what job 18 did you take? 19 A. 1 became marketing manager for a company 20 in England in Blackburn called Scapa Dryers. 21 Q. How long did you stay with Scapa? 22 A. I've been with them ever since, so it's 23 nearly 33 years. 24 Q. What is your present position with 25 Scapa? SPHERION DEPOSITION SERVICES (212)490-3430 23 (Pages 86 to 89)