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MINUTES EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING NATIONAL PAINT, VANISH AND LACQUER ASSOCI AIT ON, Association Headquarters, Washington, D. C. April 16, 1937 A regular nesting of the Executive Cc''.r.ittee of the Natl r.al ?=: Lacquer Association, Tnc. convened at 10:30 A. ?. Friday, April 1 Association Keadqur.rtt-rs, 'Washington, D. C., with Chairman Frank L F*- siding. The following v;c-re in attendance: V. 19u7 f - -* o F. .*!. Carter C. Drtney 0. J. S. de 3run S. C. Draining D. W. Figgis E. D. Griffin L. Havey D. A. Xohr deLancoy Xountze S. R. Mat-lack H. A. Molua H. W. Rice C. J. Roh F. L Sulzberger Ernest T. Trigg W. M. Zintl Guests J. E. Ingram william J. Pitt Harold E. Tubster Association Staff Reuel W. Rlt-on H. A. Gardner M. Q. Macdonald Absent E. J. Cornish Wells Martin (represented by F. M. Carter) R. A. Plumb J. B. Lord C. N. Seidlitz j. Heath Wood CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order by the Chairman with a word of welcome to the guests. The Secretary presented letters of regret from Messrs. J. B. Lord, Wells Martin, and J. Heath Wood, and read the following communication from Dr. R. A. Plumb regarding the labor situation in the Detroit area: "It appears from the evidence of today that I must unfortunately experience the great disappointment in not being able to attend meeting of the Ex ecutive Committee in Washington on Friday of this week. I looked forward to this meeting for some time as I felt our experiences with labor here in Detroit might be interesting information to the members of the'Committee. "Our plant is located almost midway between the Chrysler Highland Park Plcnt and the Dodge Hnmtramck Plant. Since the start of the Chrysler sit-down our workmen have been exceedingly restless. Notwithstanding the fact that we made substantial .advances in wages the first of March. In fact the basis of wages which we paid to our employees during the month of March '.mounted to on average of $144 per workman. NC A 0 027S8 N 3912 / "the situation of our company, cs well as Boydell's, 5er:y Brothers md practically all other paint manufacturers in Detroit, is made difficult by the fact that the Rinshed Mason Company recognized the union sene vc:>s ego, and establish d wages on a basis of a minimum of 75# per hour, with an average-of around 82# to 83# per hour. The Ditrler Color Company, rl- though not recognizing the union, adopted the same wage schedule is "About ten days ago Eoydell 5ro ers effected a lockout, and in tk premise to enable the non to c o book to work, they settled on hourly wage of 7C#. urn 'The majority of our workmen in o>rr Point, Varnish and Lac: ;cr tc are members of the union, and we have recognized the -union to of their membership. Substantially the sane situation exists Xvt' n ..n -J Brothers, although up to this afternoon they have signed no f :cc:ni-;ic*n agreement with the union. "?,'e received our demands, which run -as high as 96# on hour, from the ss- cclled bargaining or negotiating committee of the union last week. Rad cur first meeting with them yesterday afternoon and it was a very unsatis factory conference. "Demands were presented to Berry Brothers on Monday of this week, and I believe thc-y have their first meeting with the bargaining committee sche duled for Saturday of this week. ''h'e have a further meeting with the bargaining committee and representa tives of the union headquarters tomorrow afternoon, Thursday, and on account of the wide difference in our viewpoints will doubtless be compelled to meet again on Friday, and possibly again on Saturday. At least the situation with me is unfortunately so acute :.nd pressing at the present moment that it is just humanly impossible for me to leave Detroit. "I am greatly disappointed in not only missing the Executive Committee, but had contemplated spending at least a solid day with Mr. Emerson. Just as soon as our situation can be settled, either for the better or worse, I plan to come to Washington, which I hope will be some time next week, as I have several subjects I sju quite anxious to review with ?JLr. Emerson. "I sincerely hope with your understanding of the unavoidable condition im pelling me to remain in Detroit, that I ary have your indulgence in excusing me from the meeting on Friday of thi3 week." (Signed) R. A. Plumb MINUTES OF LAST MEETING The Secretary stated there was no unfinished business left over from the last meeting not cared for in the agendum of the present meeting. The chairman stated that inasmuch as a copy of the minutes of the last meeting had been mailed to each member of the committee the minutes would be approved without reading if there were no objections. There being no objections, the mlnute3 of the meeting of the Executive Committee of January 27, 1937 were approved without reading. .-2- NC A 0 02799  / NCA 0 02800 REPORT OF BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE AND OF TREASURER_____________ . Mr. C. J. "Boh, Chairman of the Budget and Finance Cr,-r.5.tt the Committee held a nesting at breakfast this date (April 16, tine the financial statement of the Association -.v-as carefully hat n As Treasurer, Mr. Roh presented a statement of income and xper.se for the period from October 1, 1936 to 'torch 31, 1937 and a balrr.ee she cV-M;.-'r c* C : r liabilities and surplus as of March 31, 1937. (Copy attached), It V.-S moved by Mr. Matlack, seconded by .Mr. Carter, that the report of the re--surer be amoreved. Motion carried. REPORT OF SCIENTIFIC 6ECTI0N Dr. Gardner reported that since the first of the year the folio' ng Sciart Section Circulars have been issued: Circular No. 524 Perilla Planting Experiments of 1936 525 Fhysical Specifications for ft?11 Paints 526 Mildew Prevention (Fifth Report) 527 Painting Galvanized Iron 523 Painting Brick 529 Abstract of Discussion of Federation Papers 530 Iodine Values of Linseed Oil 531 Review of Patents on Synthetic Drying Oils 532 Traffic Paints Abstract Reviews Nos. 47 and 43 He reported on the v;ork which the Association has done with the Lumber Products-Botter Paint Campaign in revising literature 'which is being distributed by various lumber associations throughout the United States. He reported on the various meetings he had attended c.nd the results which have now been accomplished in getting this literature on a fair basis that will be acceptable to manufacturers of prepared paints. President Trigg stated that for approximately two years Association repre sentatives have been discussing with the lumber interests the apparent conflict between white lead and mixed paint as developed by the Better Paint Campaign; he stated that the subject had taken much time end much discussion but that he believed the matter was in good shape now. Mr. Trigg stated that the Lead Institute under the guidance of Mr. Carter had taken a sple-ndid attitude on this entire subject and that Mr. Worraser had taken a constructive view of the subject and had worked with representatives of the paint industry. He stated that Mr. Critchfield, Director of the "Better Paint Campaign", had changed his type of presentation so that now it was devoted entirely to the subject of "better paint". President Trigg stated that Mr. Wormser had asked Dr. Gardner to review a new traveling exhibit to be sent out by the "Better Paint Cam paign" and to make such suggestions for changes as he deemed advisable; he re ported that Z5r. Gardner's suggestions for changes had all been accepted. Dr. Gardner then reported upon the situation which has developed with the Forest Products Laboratory at fJadison, Wisconsin in connection with re-common Jr.- tions which have been proposed by Dr. Brovme for a system of type identification and grading for house paints. Copies of Dr. Browne's report "A System of Type Identification and Grading for House Paint3" were distributed.^.A meeting to discuss this matter with Dr. Brovme has been arranged by President Trigg for ^C, :ff<icLec( -3- V) April^6-27 at Madison, :.nd will fc-s attended by h. number of prominent paaiirnt tejchnoclogists. Dr. Gardner expressed the bce-l1:;5eef that Dr. Browne's method of grading is faulty end would do great damage to our industry if -adopted. In reply to_a question by 'ir. Sulsbergc-r cs to the objection to the use of the label suggested by Dr. Erov.no, Dr. Gardner stated that cur ir.'estey h:s always opposed grading of paint -nd that the use cf this label would indicate to the public that all paints cenying the lehel would be the s-rme vdvreas in rctu-l practice there would be little similarity in the products. Mr. Sulz- >org.r expressed the cpir.icn j-V., . i vPvi < J-vd. .It :1 V r:i e* o: :rc-t aero objectionable gracing pirns. President Trigg statei t* at Dr. v.ts ox trie coir.iar. fT -.+ *'a' ero w-.rc too cany ibrnrlae in use industry -and that approximately 25 formulae should cover the needs of the i:v'v.s i Mr. Rice ashed if this label was supposed to be in the interest of the cor suners end Dr. Gardner replied in the affirmative. Mr. Rice stated that it seemed to him that the label would be more confusing to the consumer. He ex pressed the belief that Dr. Browne's pr.pc-r is "'.ore interesting than imports at and was probably not of enough importance to the industry to oppose the plan. President Trigg stated that Dr. Browne's paper was just a beginning for h's"incompatibility idea" and expressed the belief that this "idea" would get nowhere. He stated that the theory of "incompatibility" is that in order to get set factory service from paint it is necessary to use the seme kind of costing, for each re-paint job s:id he stated that the idea of the meeting of pnint teehnici:ns in Madison is to thoroughly discuss this question. Dr. Kohr expressed the belief that Dr. Browne's promise that there are so m:-.ny paint failures that something must be done about it, is wrong. President Trigg -asked members of the Committee to take homo with them the copy of Dr. Browne's paper, study it end send to Dr. Gnrdnc-r or to himself -ny suggestions which they might care to make. Ho expressed -agreement with Dr. Kohr in the belief that Dr. Browne is being nisleed as to the seriousness of the situation; he stated that Dr. Browne has lived in an atmosphere of paint failures because he has been inviting reports of paint failures for the past two or two and a half years end he has stated that 3.n no one instance does he believe failure due to the quality of the paint used. / Mr. Sulzberger expressed the opinion that Dr. Browne's paper is worthless unless his "compatibility theory" is correct. He suggested a thorough study of the subject jointly by Dr. Browne and hi3 associates and the paint technicians who will be in attendance at the meeting in Madison and then if there is accept ance that the theory is correct the paint industry will find it necessary to do something about it* Mr. Rice reported that 25 years ago he had purchased an old house on which the paint had scaled about as badly as any he had ever seen; he stated that the coats of paint which were all of the hard type were screpcd end that a soft type paint was used for the repaint job and that there has been no trouble with the paint job since that tine. t_ Dr. Gardner then reported upon his proposed circular on labelling rules; he stated that when this was originally presented at the Hovt-mber meeting, it was suggested that it be held up for further work, with the idea of developing -4- NCA 0 02801 a glo^ary of ell terns used id formula labelling. This having been acccnplished the circular is now submitted again (copy attached) to the members of the Execu tive Conmittee for their further considers,t icn. He expressed the belief that definitions of this character, with proper terminology, will, if used, ovoid much misrepresentation end may in th.e icr.g run t cec-nolish other desireble :ur ::s o In answer to r question by Dr. Eohr as to v.-h ether or not this circular night be considered t. further step towards strr.dardioetior., Mr. Sulzberger expressed the opinion that that is a possibility. Mr. Havoy expressed the opinion that President Trigg suggested that this natter be referred back to the Seiont-'- i Section Committee for further study rod reference to the next meeting of this ocremittee. This suggestion was approved. Dr. Gardner then reported upon miscellaneous oils. He indicated that at tve present tine there are over three and a hr If million acres of land planted with soybeans. He indicated that the production of tung oil new being pressed in America from the 1936 crop of rood might be in the neighborhood of two million pounds. He suggested :hrt m-.ny of the plantings had been seriously injured by frost this year, but nevertheless seme of the more prominent pluiters are substantially increasing their acreage. He referred to the results obtained in the experimental plantings of perillc in 1936, and outlined the campaign for additional planting tests during 1937. He then pointed out the work he has dene in connection with chia, a quantity of very fine seed having teen received from Mexico. This seed had a germination of 9S*S, and was distributed to more than 100 different planters throughout America, and the results that may be obtained during the summer will be watched with great interest. He suggested that it was his belief that chia would probably prove of over, greater value than perilla, because the seed is probably easier to harvesx and the oil is of even higher iodine number. He suggested that it might be to the benefit of this Association if we were to establish a bureau that would work exclusively upon the introduction of new oil seeds in America, and constantly stimulate the production of such crops in order to make our industry more independent of foreign sources for drying oils. He suggested this bureau might work under the Scientific Section and have a personnel of trained agriculturists who could travel throughout the country, stimulating thi3 work. Graduates of agricultural colleges, who have had four or five yor.rs training in the field, might be employed for this purpose. Oils such as soybean, tung, perilla, chia, linseed and others should be given the consideration of such a bureau. President Trigg stated that wo have a new convert to oil plantings in Past President Herbert Hoover whose son Alan will make some Perilla plantings of con siderable si2e this year. Dr. Gardner then pointed out the work he had done in Georgia in assisting to prevent the passage of the Georgia paint bill. He also- stated that he had purchased some land in shingten, consisting of about 18,000 square feet. The lend is in a desirable location overlooking the river. Ho suggested that he had made the purchase as c personal investment, with the thought in mind that if it was found necessary to move the prc-c-.-nt head quarters he -would make this lend available to the Association at the price he paid for it provided the Association oared to acquire it. NCA _ ^^^ ^ 0 02802 -5- / Mr. Sulzberger sr-id that Dr. Gardner's action in this matter was typical of his rare unselfish spirit and that it v.ts worthy of such to: tic-n. st President Trigg stated there was nothing new in the situation i roving of national headquarters insofar as he knew. He stated that of the President now seems to be one of reduction in activity in the. cu gram and that probably that is the attitude government should true; wren r.ers is low -- increase government activity; when business is good - .sere-, oe g:vo-rum-ant activity. Pr. Gardner reported upon recent meetings of the American Chemical Saei of committees of the American Society for Testing Materials, in which he ctive cart.' AMENDMENT TO NEW YORK ASSOCIATION 5Y-LAWS The Secretary reported tk.at the New York Paint, Varnish and Lacquer Associa tion had presented for approval a recommendation that their Constitution and By laws be amended by the elimination, in Section 1, Article VI of the Constitution and in Section 1, Article VI of the By-lews, of the provision which requires that a.-andmonts to the Constitution or By-laws "shall only be made with the ap proval of the Executive Committee of the National Paint, Varnish and Lacquer Association, Inc." Mr. Dunning explained the situation which brought about this proposed amendment to the New York Association regulations end suggested that tine proposed amendment be not approved. It was moved by Mr. Sice, seconded by Mr. Figgis, that the proposed amendment to the New York Paint, Varnish and Lacquer Association Constitution and By-laws, eliminating the requirement that amendments to the Constitution and By-laws be approved by the Executive C.m mittce of the National Association, be disapproved. Motion carried. CONFfcP-FIiCE .VITH PA INTERS ON REGISTRATION LEGISLATION President Trigg referred to the painter's licensing bills which have been presented in numerous states, explained the set-up of the Board provided by the proposed laws to have control ever painting activities and stated that the Association has vigorously opposed this type of legislation. He reported that thanks to the good work of the Legislative Committee under the direction of Mr. Herbert W. Pice as Chairman and to the very effective work of Mr. William J. Pitt as Vice Chairman of the Committee every measure of this type so far presented had been defeated with the exception of the bill in the state if iVisccnsin where amendments to the bill had removed most of its objectionable features. President Trigg stated that more measures of this type had been presented thi yeer than in any previous year, that the painters' attitude has become beligcrent, that the Illinois painters' group had advised the manufacturers that they "had better lay off or else" end that at the annual meeting of the International Society of Master Painters end Decorators held in San Antonio, Texas, in February a resolution had been passed directing that a letter be addressed to the Na tional Paint, Varnish and Lacquer Association, requesting this organization to cease its activities in opposing master painters' license bills and that this Association do not oppose any legislation proposed by representatives of the master painters organization. -6- MCA 0 02803 / President Trigg stated that on his recent trip to the 'Aest Co-r.st he ret Mr. Afmrn, President of the master painters* ergr-nisation, end discussed the entire situation with him. Mr. Afman stated that he was not in accord -Ii th z'.r-.y of the bills_rs proposed end suggested that a stall group representing f. rnufrcturrrs* association meet with a. s11 group representing the tz-L:i -..s' association for the - purpose of endeavoring to roach o compromise. Mr. Trigg reported that subsequently Mr. kfzr-n, President of the pointers' res-oi':i :r, Mr. Vir.rshrll of Boston, Pe.st President of the painters' s-rsocintior., hr. Muirhcod of Bridgeport, Mr. 0'Deans!1 of Frovidonce, and hr. George Sho rt Business Director of the painters* :rg:niratl-rn, net in M-_v; York .fti hr. r her4. Tv. Rice, Chrirr.cn \-f the legislative Co-.r5.ttoc- cf our .-r,-j r i o* 11.a, "r. Pitt, Vice-Chairman of the Co-r_T.ittoe, Mr. Clv-rlcs J. P.oh, Treasurer of Vo Arsocintion, Mr. J. E. Ingram of Pittsburgh, hr. M. Q. Macdonald, 0:rural Counsel of the Association, and hi.aself. President Trigg reported taint the group was in session all day-and that while the represents lives of c-ur Association felt that nothing much could be r.cccmoli'shed, the group be carte impressed with the thought that in victv of changes t; king place in legislation throughout the country possibly some crange night bo desirr-hle in the T.r.nufrct-urcrs' position regarding painters' licensing cer surssj he stated that the group felt toward the end of the conference that if same reus enable uniform registration measure could be agreed upon that it night bn best for all parties concerned. President Trigg reported that ehis year un i rondraco t has bc-tn presented t Vnr 'Visc.nsic bill which will r.ut teeth back into the measure and fust the printers have the b- eking of union labor in the state. In Illinois') a really vicious bill has boon presented and organized Ir-bor interests arc- cooperating '-ith the painters in an effort to have the mc-r cure r-nnetad into law and it is difficult to determine at this time v.hrt the o-utoemo might be. Mr. Trigg stated that the situation offers the possibility that bills n-a.y be passed in some stales in spitcof the excellent work bring done by Mr. Pitt end our Legislative Committee and that rather than take e chance with radical measures like the proposed Illinois bill the group representing our Assuci- tion believed that same alteration of oim plans might be advisable. He stated that, with the explanation to the painters that the group representing the ar-anufccturers' association had no power to spenk for this industry he suggested giving favorable consideration to n measure embracing the following basic thoughts. (a) Provide for compulsory registration of contracting painters for a nominal fee. (b) Onit any provision for an Examining Eoard. (c) Make painters license available to any applicant. (d) Omit any provision for the permanent rovoc-ticn of any license. (e) Include the ordinary fair trade provisions enforced through power to suspend licenses but r.ot revoke them, with suspension subject to court review (power to hc-cr arid suspend being lodged in s ~.e : f-{ ropriete state agency rr.thcr than in n painters' board). (f) Exempt froa its provisions industrial "-nd Instituii-niO. <r inten nee printing end painting by hv-.e owners. -7- N C A 0 02804 / / / (g) Omit from unfair trad2 practice provisions reference to the use of "inferior materials", but prohibit substitution of materials without the consent of the owner or his rgont. These provisions were ell unanimously approved of by the represent.: tlavs of he pointers' organization present at the meeting as representing their ids"-, of uni form, standard licensing legislation. President Trigg stated that he asked the painters' rears sentatives 'vhv t psv.\-r their Association night hove to-get uniform regnlati:ns substituted f.r o:b.-:-r bills presented by state councils. The painters replied that they h: d r. authority but believed they would have sufficient influence tc get favorable action. They agreed not to discuss the conference in New York until this Execu tive Committee had hnd an opportunity to consider the proposal. Mr. Trigg re ported that the connittee representing our .Association were urr nincus in fceliavio? that this method of handling the question of painters' licensing bills ould be for the test interests of all parties concerned. Els suggested that if the Executive Committee approved the program the entire natter should be referred h to a committee tc meet with representatives of the painters' organization to work out details. Mr. Rice stated that Mr. Pitt had borne the burden of the Legislative Com mittee work for several years very successfully but that the battle was getting increasingly difficult. He expressed the opinion that manufacturers are not opposed to painters' regulatory measures unless they restrict the use of paint but that in the opinion of the Legislative Committee measures presented to ante by pointers' interests would restrict the use of the products of our indusiiy. Mr. Rice stated that he had received first hand information on the method of operation in connection with printers' licensing bills when the paintc-rs pre sented their mc-rsure in Rhode Island. Ho stated that the painters cnlL.-d upon the dealers -and asked them to beck the measure. Mr. Pitt organized another group of interests not directly connected with the paint industry to oprosc the measure. The measure got into committee in the House and ?;a.s lost. Mr. Rice stated that Mr. O'Donnell of Providence said that the painters were as much opposed to any restriction to the use of paint as the manufacturers rre and claim that their interest in the natter was to build up some protection against cheap paint and gyp printers. Mr. Rice stated that if painters are suc cessful in getting one of their drastic bills adopted in some state it may spread rapidly throughout other states and that the manufacturers should have acme constructive plan of their own to present. Mr. Rice stated that when he learned about the resolution passed at the annuel meeting of the master painters in Texas he felt that informal meeting such as the one held by the two sub committees would be of no v*lue, but that he was pleasantly surprised to find that the painters' attitude on that occasion was really constructive -ni that they were willing to accept the proposal cs presented by the committee representing cor Associativa. He expressed the belief that there is nothing whatsoever in the pro posal which would restrict in any way the use of paint products. STATUS OF STATE BILLS Mr. Pitt presented'the following report on the status of bills presented in the various states during 1937: -a- NCA o 02SC5 / "Licencing Mils - N.D. - Pr.r-d; Iowa - Lc-i-d; Min'. House and Hearts in Cora.-nit.t3c; Montana - Food; ``isc. - Passed House, in Senate Amende-i; Mich, - in Coaifdttc-c, not lik-ly to p^ss; Sob. - I*:fed; Mo. - IVdj Colo. - in-Rulcs tcrarittcc, no chi nc-,-j lad. - in Cc:.vr.itit, no chi r.ca; ?:.. - out of House C---i.it >c; Hi. - ir. House Ca-rdttc-o; K. H. - Dor d; P.. I. - Master Fainter Dill - in Cemittc-o; P.. I. - Serffoli `rectors or ri^gans, in Counitteo. _ D.rd. "Fo:i.iuTre Labeling - Texas - turd; Vise. - Fre-parcd Pts. In C-rnr.ittee; y,,.rk H`u;',o ' ad Scr.r.bn - Toxic P-omovors - read." Mr. Pitt otstnei th.-t he *;;3 *r.ly CT.oerr.f*d r'c<>-at the- Licensing till in 111 v a.id the I.-bvling hill in V.'i'e r.oir.; he said the For-.u?a Labeling till in'.Vioc.-nsin dealt only --.'ith "prepared .joint" and thet the industry in Wisconsin did not seem to hove a desire to oppose the bill. Mr. Sulzberger stated that in his pini'--n "prepared paint" would be interpreted to include all paint products and that the measure -roul-j bo In fact c gcno-ial. lc.be line lav: &r.d that ?r- such it V''. 3 C *i *.l wr ter - Ar* noAi^rs* 1 L-.-j; .: .> r/.jl 0 c. ?r CSO 'i-.-n 4W. Trigg sin.ted ihot therc had be no c i i * . 1 a rn.n the A S5 zcA.a to .n ' s 'tt.i tud w ard this tyre Of Bi"S iu*e ijid t:-i -t with out c if'ferent ' :;tr\:.0 t ion s fr om thi s cr .rnuit tie the Assccio tion v -'lild c. ntinue to f irhh the p. S"-s*e - f the bil 1. Mr. Ingr r.!i si ted th-- 4w- he feIt oh or c v;ns 11 ttle he could mad to "V'if t ho <i a! re t.dy bee n so id. Ho ie fc1-at he hr- d or i-C r.dvis od that the -i'uestio-n of paint', r 0 1 : n stag oil Is `"i" d br:.* ug!ht out t ha :.`.st l.'l ttc-r lob'' irn . t t}.e r r.r.uai me-: ting r f the I:a ternr ti \tv 1 Socle iy 'U" in iterd f re Ivisg on c rio*ap M, C-Z . r 3 c ~ 4 ed Pain + .;i- S : nd ..rcj udice of Dec-rr.tors a.: id ye-vvs s ton-ding htof felt that ..r. p-'.si ti:n to ail licensing .ensures it might be well for mar.ufc.cturei'S to try to develop, f:\.:n the p-sitlon rhr-.t licensing legislation might be aif some benefit, 3or.ie suggesti ns to bring their ideas on the subject really up to date. Mr. Ingmm sir tod that he rfas well impressed by the character of the mc-mbers of the painters' representatives end by the fret that these representatives ronagrized that a gro- t number of members of the International Society were of a different csliber turn themselves; he expressed the belief that they had come frankly to get a meeting of minds between painters and manufacturers and he felt thM the meeting had been well worthwhile even if it did nothing else than to bring these two groups closer together. Mr. Ingram st-'ted that he believed the interest of the manufacturers really lies in support of seme measure pro viding a code of fair competition for master pointers rather than in opposition to oil printer registration measures; he stated that he believed this com mittee should foster end support legislation such as proposed by President Trigg. Mr. P.oh-stcted that the cute .me of the meeting wr.3 one of ccmprxnise on both sides; he stated that the painters claimed that Vary did not really -vat the radios 1 - r ivisiois -f some of the bills. In answer t: f. question by Mr. Sulzberger, Mr. Pitt explained that the i reposition to hrvo a model bill new under c .nsidcr.ati n would not affect the work of the so-called "h: miy-mon". -9 MCA 0 028Q6 It was moved by Mr. Kouoitze, seconded by Mr. 'ice, that subject to the Sub committee v:hich net with representatives of the painters' organisation being strongly of the opinion that the recommendations now made should be adopted and subject further to such uniform painters licensing bill being drafted in such a way that it will not reduce the sale of paint, that said Sub-Committee is h<-r<_-by authorised to work cut the details of such a licensing bill in cooperation with the representatives of the painters' organization, Motion carried. ' $ Mr. Melum stated that the bill as presented in Illinois is the most inclusive and piohibitive bill introduced in any state, that it includes industrial m-in terne nee and all who paint for wage or comactier. and that it provides that a jourr.cyr.an painter could not secure a license without three y`.e.rs of su - -or.aicc- :e pointed out that since there is no i pprenticeship r.t the present tire ana frequently no no star painters available this measure would materially de crease the number of master painters. Mr. Sulzberger stated that he believed the till was sc severe it could not be passed. Mr. Pitt stated that the Illinois bill is different from bills presented in other states and that it would ser iously penalize property owners. ' UNFAIR COMPETITION BUR?AU Mr. "'ebstsr, Chairman of the Unfair Competition Committee, stated that the committee held a meeting in New York recently -and discussed thoroughly pi-, us for making the work of the Unfair Competition Bureau more effective; he slated that the cc'vnittee felt it would be advisable- to engage a. man to devote his rtiro time to the work of the Unfair Competition Bureau under the direction of Mr. Macdonald and he said that plans were under way to engage such a parson. President Trigg pointed out that the b idgot provides for a reward to be pc id to any one furnishing information If'di.ng to am order by the Federal Tra.de Com mission or to e conviction under anti-brit a ry leg is-lotion. He stated that ho hoped arrangements would be completed in the very near futuro for the a.ng.ogc-aont of :n individual who would devote his entire time to the- purposes of the Unfair Comoetition Bureau. Mr. Sulzberger expressed the belief that many people think that the . .-sociation's eheck on unfair competition is dormant i-.nd the cor:mittec proposes to start rction promptly; hs called attention tc the fact that hrr-dquarters of the association is charged with keeping the work of the Unfair Competition Bureau before the members of the industry. Mr. Roh referred to the f*.ct that formerly when Mr. Macdonald visited various cities ho celled on manufacturers tc check or. situations affecting unfair c:nrctition rind to invite reports ts to suspicions of violations; he .expressed the belief that this type of follow-up is very i dvr nteger-us, that it heads off unfair competition, that it is often of os much value to the industry as direct li *s cn violations, end that this kind of contact should bo continued. Mr. Sulzberger stated that this has rcclly been merely in the nature .-f a. report of progrf ss to the members of this committc-o for the purpose of -.'vising the committee thet the Unfair Competition C-v-'itt- c is rcclly goJjyj to gr Into action. V REPORT ON PROPOSED OIL LEGISLATION Mr. Macdonald presented the following report cn pr-posed legislation pc-.*, dag in Congress: / -2.0- NCA 0 02S07 "There has been no change in the status of pending oil legislnti-.-n. "The Knutson Bill (H.F..1955) is before the House fcrcr.ittec- .n 'fays r.d Moans. It proposes c. processing tax of 6 per pound on P trill-:., Heaps:c-d, Rape-seed, Stsene, Pp.3e, P**lic Kernel, Kapokscod Oils, and i-purtod Co-tisr.sec d rnd Sunflower Oij. "It else proposes c.n excise tax of if par pound an imported Soybean Oil, in addition tc the t.-riif of "The pr.-cessing. ta>: of 6<* on peri lie end the ether oils listed f .-r c processing tax v:c-ild be in adiition to the hyd excise t-x imposed 1- et i'arrV , "No o-.tter.pt he3 been node so far to push this bill to c. hearing and There fore nothing has been done tc oppose it actively. It seemed prudent not to make- it rn issue- `*rd develop or. active interest c-n the pert of aa: rs of the emunittoe not yet interested. On the other hand, in ccop-ration with the Linoleum Indue tiy and the Bureau of ?,,-.w Materials for A urican Yogettblc Oils rnd Huts Industrie**, material "cr briefs end oth.u- n: of opposition h: s be-cr. gathered, .and con bo prc-p'.red on short amice. "In : edition tc the ICrv-ten till there have been : nu-ibc-r of reps tc + ** ef<\ of th: t the- fl- x -j.r a-', i ng inter?" Ls v.ir.h to pat fl *.-.r-'. od irport tiers on .a quota basis. Those p 'cpo.sols ha vs- r.ou Ve-t taken the- fc-.-.T of bills. Th..ro is e ,<rsui^iliq- Ib.r.c a.; at4..-...pt v-ill be ,nac*.e to avoid the nc-.-c ssity of in-.ro-omirg bill -'-.id iv vlng r hearing, by .'"faring an r-n-ind.-arnt to the sugar quota legirlr.tVcn, me this legislrtion is th-.-refora being r-'*iched vc i*y carefully. "Because >'i the fact that a restriction or the importation of flaxseed by means of s quota would bca-.r heavily on Argentina aid probably destroy any chance of negotiating a tr-'do agreement with th-t country, c. rr.oir.nue on domestic production road acce ss'ry imports, r.n-.i the effect of higher prices of oil were filed with the State r-epF-rt7ie.it by our industry and by the Linoleum 3i~nu.fr.ctur,,-rs whose- interests arc similar. "When the excise t*ix of 6i was imposed Inst year on peri 11a c:.od ofrier diy- 0 g. ing oils, a tax of 2d per pound was placed on the various seeds regard- *^i_' loss of their oil content, inis result:; in higher cost of those oils ^ when the seeds ere crushed here than v:hun the ril itself is imported. *<'', "Although it appears unlikely that Congress will tc.kc up these excise- t: ::es this session, r.-pri suntatiors are being made to the Corn it tee pointing out the effect of there wnqoual rate", end particularly their effect or. domestic le.ber. "Sc-nntor Pusscll of Goorgir. end Congressman C-olraar of Mississippi have- both proposed the establishment of an c-xprr imc.it etal'on for the d..vcl op.;..--nt of v-rioties of tung tr-.*rs of dep- nJrblr product' vity. "It is believed that the cost of this project ....aid be or** 11 : ? th-rc is ~. small experiment station of the Dtpru tme-nt of Agriculture f lxa atly located in the Pe-rl F-ivc-r district of i.ii:--sissippi, and same 30,COO acres of tung trees in Mississippi and Louisiana, available for obsalva tion. / "Senator Eilbo of Mississippi has introduced c bill which provides, cm xrg -ii- N C A 0 02808 othfifT things, for the u-ovelesnc-ut of now us os for tung nuts anc tur.g hulls. This is less likely to rc-ec-ivc consideration then the Pussell-Colmer proposal. :"'r. Fulmer of South Caroline has introduced H. ?.. 5313 authorising the dir ector --f the Census to collect end publish monthly statistics ccnceming the quantities of soybeans, flaxseed, seseme, hempseed, end other oil seeds received at the oil sills, the quantities shipped, held at the mills, etc. This ho3 been referred to the C'nmittcc on the Census. io rctic.o h-s b-*n T..:-o: ii:.r fr ^ f h.e subji "v "'.'yirif' Jil s, :>cre i i^ng v bill (H. R. 3362 - Fill) to _ the- 3 -r c ro * c*.n* -:-f '> r tv coil, loan, ,r jive tc cu!:v:'r ct: v3 read rivr to fi rms Sr*.p*)CS '-f cu-rulics to be :::mufacture-d for tie A:voy. T; is -.ay be ` H c .-s i-'tr- bio r ssistance tc th osp v;ho wish to bid >n such Govemn,nt .--nix-acts." Pro -icVnt- Trix? :*cf# i red tc r. r.-pr-i-b pr-y red bp ;.5r *r p41** " T -J * c - *,. j. - c in the Sto.t ' B..-pc rtc-ent t.c : ::y : t tempt tc place flax on Li .J : .<u L < r O'. . > - attached 'ote-oorr-nfun: For St: to Fe-;r rtuent St gov ding II?:.? end .-.nd Linseed bil Sub mit tid by real t, V--rn'> nd L'c-qucr Asseci-.ti on." !?r. rlev-.y rc-ques-*< 1 hr. * ed .e-ln*-pini-'n on the Second p<-rt of the Federal Tr'dc Cr-.o-isai-'!ir s c-..opl-.i n- g :net ire Pi:-ingham. Iren Fip-e Ass ci' ci-n. Mr. :> ccroo-li strt-vd that tV- s< c uid y-icn of the >v. male i.nt csf.rr.d to sc'.nrd tc lay the- ;-n..; ?.int i'n.o-r th . Frbi.is. .-.-Fr trv.n Act ;n the- oho ry thi t n s. n .-its hoc used booic point system f dicti `bution. Fc stated t'vst it prcbrkly . old be come tine before the coon !- Int is re.- ct'C -..re testim-is token red it is cii:icualItt: t.- t m. . f * ;r>r. :-i_ht bo; he e.r-ross rd the belief that h-sic point Ivgisli'ti'-n ill ttr-oct v.rp .vide interest. Mr. Fi.-gis e*;:pre?r.t*d the V-eliof that seme definite legislation on the suh.net y of "basic , oi nt son torn :r' bis br'i.but.l-<n" wi1! be .nacU-d hufer*, Vc-iy long. Mr. Hnvty stated that ix-PoUVcS of this type really vim at delivered prices on: ho.ve a tendency tc limit m nuiV oturers to distribution in that : ror which they car. best service. In c-r.s-.ver to r question Mr. ?*ecdonld st-ted that chore v.es nothing new at the / pr-.ront time cn the prooosed ?; tor n bills :-n "reciprocity" end "distribution by * .-r-nufacturors in oomoctition with their customers". IhTUST?1AL ElVISION In answer to a question bp Jhrir.ivi 3 tizber.qer Mr. doBrun, nenbor cf the Industrial Division Advisory 3-.rrd, stated that he belic-ved industrial T.anuf- ctar.-rs in the industry :;trc well ..i.-asr-d with the type of vclivitl-.s being c- -ric-d on by the national us-nci. tier.. . yoF&vr products patht campaign N C A 0 02309 Referring back to the u-ntoots v.hlch have been developed in the lrmb.-r int*r- c-sts end the print interests, Tracidi-nt 7rigg stated th.c t condi cion.; surra unding the "Better P<:int Ca.:;:3ignn he a new be :n -h_v;loped tc tbs point vhere he consi J .red it might be desirable to have the list! -nal Paint, Varnish end Lacquer Association join -.vith other interests In ensuring the ermpeign, rr.d suggested ruvol, subject to the officers being catisfi.d with developments. On notion duly seconded the officers <'f the ; ssociati-'U -:rc/o r-vthorized. -IF- -^Subs eGueyii". ?uey,r4- (yf\ SEMI-ANNUAL REPORT OF FACTORY EMPLOYEES / President Trigg referred to a "Zone Summery of Semi-Annual Report on Factory Employees" presenting minimum wage figures only, a copy of which was placed in the hands of each member of the committee, and stated that in this consolidated report only minimum wage figures were used so that the tendency would be to lift rdr.ir.uns rather then to pull d*.wn Tmjcimums; he expressed the opinion that wVdle every factory should have a minimum wage for every job, maximum wages should relate themsc-lvcs to the skill and real value of the workman effected. He ex plained the make-up of this c.nsmlidr.ted report end expressed the hope thst each n.mbor of the committee would send in the informstion requested in the ;r . r* _ :;c- >n .mi-Arr.'.u-ol Report :n Free *ry Szpluyeos" if they hod not alrv-. my s'. In answer to e qu-s+i. jy Mr. R-mining, President Trigg -'1vised that it n't be fc-'sibl. to use- weighted c.vercges in reporting inimum wages Mr. Rrh printed out thst in st least cne case a reported minimum r*to vj-s th rata raid zo a watchmen who wr.s in fact a pensioner. In enr.-or to a question by Mr. "alrm, President Trigg stated -.hat t>is ro, or could bo confined to local interests and ht expressed the belief that ii future r..ports it might be rdvisubla to emit the consolidated re;-ort. Mr. Koniuse ex pressed the belief that the report was good in loco:! situations but should net be used for national contribution, fr. < hr expressed the belief what, the report had served its purpose -nd st; 1 en ho did ..at sac a need for its repetition. Mr. Salzburger staled that- it t4-p.>-red or be tbs opinion of the majority of the com mittee that "cor.'-. r<t-po.'-..s ..n facto .y e:nj. ley res" be continued but that thenation*! distribution f o e-r.s.fiiJrted retort he discontinued* Mr. Ingram reported that the Parana ir. chcrge of the Now York World's Fair Exhibits is inviting industry groups to cater industry exhibits as r. vh he stated that if the hM '.ncustry planned to entu-r a paint .exhibit in the `lew Y.r '.rld's Fair it would hi vo a dc-fJcite bearing on the ..xtent to which individual -i-anufacturers would cara- to exhibit. Hr. Sulzberger reported that the :irttcr has not been prsvijucly presented to the Executive Committee for consideration in connection with the Hew Y ,rk World's Fair, but thst it was last con sidered in connection with the Chicago World's Fair and was turned down .n ac count of the c:st involved. Following an informal discussion of the subject it was the sense of the committee that the matter be left in the hands jf the President. RATIFICATION OF AFFAhOSiENTS -- 1937 COfTVFJ.'TION Mr. Sulzberger reported that in accordance with instructions given by the Executive Committee a subcommittee consisting of Hessr3. Rice, Trigg and Sulz berger had considered all invitations in connection with the site of the- 1937 convention and had finally selected the city of Cincinnati. He stated that the e. -mitt-no did not feel that they were establishing any precedent in selecting Cincinnati and that they felt that it would he inadvisable to have the c n\a_ntiu;i "knocked nr.unu gcrgrcpnici-ily". Ke stated that the committee felt tint the routine *f holding rnvcntivns in Chicago, Washington, :.nd possibly ot,a Y.rk should be nei.ct'.lncd with only an occasional cxcapti.n. It fir.s m ved by Mr. Kavcy, s>. c>.nded by Mr. Meliva, that 11 *o action S the rittee in selecting the oily mf Cincinnati : s the- site for the 1937 convention and in designating the Sutherland Plazr H.tcl .s convention headquarter? tv- ap proved. Mvtiun cerrlod. -13- N C A 0 023 i / The Sscrctc-iy presented the following list of firms from whom / ' for .r.cr.ijcrship lnd been received: C^a c s_"A" -her BENJAMIN MOSS PAINT COMPANY 1131 Ninth Street, ?7. T- shingto.a, D. C. "r. ?-'ul Stein C A " s 5 "!" Me-ber THE ANY 120 .a -ii MASON CAN COMPANY Dexter R-^rd Post Providence-,* ?.. Mr. m. Grnpsrtz I. STAR BRUSH MANUFACTURING CO., Inc. A A-Go 30th PL" ce Unj Islend City, H. Y. Mr. P. K. ?hr:-cka.rton It < s ' :-vt:d by I!: referre d t0 be eleetvu >-tl ok, seconded by Mr. Figgis, that tlie four firr.s :crb.-rshib in th.. clr-ssific&.ti.on ns indicated, M lion The Secrete ry presented the fvllc.:<3r.g Ii1-! firms, the cmeclla ti m :f > -berrhir is r, oa ..need by the r!*.:abc:rshin Committee: AnCrc.. "r'-rn C -r..v.*ny C'-.t. hfvjqutr C-.npr.ny John P. Cc-chrnn Company (B) Detroit- Pex Products Co. Fed err 1 Composition .4 Print Co. Forbes Vrrnish Company The Hole 4 H-olnes Company Lincoln C'ls nine Co., Inc.* (E) E. U. L^fjrn Glr.ss 4 Paint Co. Th mas C. 5!ee Company August Mill.-r Si S--n G. J. Nikolas 4 Company Parker, prestos 4 Co., Inc. Quaker Paint Products Co. P.. S. Foocall * C. Rod Circle Paint Products Red H. nd Compositions Reliable Faint Ccupany Fisiny Sun Color "orks (B) Smith 4 Gunn, Inc. Ff-:dk. A. Si recor.-Bcuter, Ir.c. Superior I'aint " lacquer <' vb3 Ter.-as Silica Co. Technical Color * Chewier 1 dorks Vcstorn States Lacquer C .npr ny -U- Los Angeles, Calif. Alhambra, Cr.lif. Cleveland, Ohio Detroit, Mich. New York, N. Y. Cleveland, Ohio Cleveland, Ohio Brooklyn, N. Y. Billings, Mont. Woonsocket, R. I. Baltimore, Md. Chicago, 111. Norwich, Cenn. Philadelphia, Pa. San Francisco, Calif. Brooklyn, N. Y. New York, S. Y. Louisville, K/. Philadclohir, !>.. Ns .mark, N. J. Chicago, III. T.os Ange-l'S, Crlif. Chic:go, 111. Chic*-.go, 111. L'c/wond, Calif. N C A 0 02811  It '.vas moved by Mr. Melim, seconded by Dr. Kolir, that the e?:.cella*i in of the senberskics referred to be approved. Motion carried. a c in The Secretory reported that the Budget and Finance Cc-ovoittee at its r.oetthis morning* authorized the write-off of the accounts charged .t:i i:ist f-ellwing corec-me: C: rr. L: eque-r Company t ^" rising F-ut Color ft.-.rks A!h?.r.br', C-lif. rv-. i - -- * - 1---------> < o:~ * Snith v Tu:m, Inc. N's"---'_*k, !i. J. Tec'-.aic?.l Color L- Cher.ioel -'-'orbs Brooklyn, N. Z. nestt-rn States L-'.ccuor Co. Ihyv;: -d, Co?if. !#~XT *rr~ rwrj By gs.-r.vrol consent the seVcLion of tine rnd place for the no:<t nc-.tiog of the- Executive; C omit tec ats rejVrr^d to the- Ch'ir-:.n of the Crr.a! vtc-e and the Frcsidcnt. / ng rdj.. urnod at }:ld F. 3f cr< tary NCA 0 0281 2