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File Name Asbestos Cement Products Association: Minutes 1959 -1968 Scanned ? yes Source JMA: 04-01148 Start Year 1959 Stop Year 1968 Contents minutes Notes * v r- % ''VioSI REPORT of THE PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE March 12, 1959 In the absence of Harold D. McAnney of The Flintkote Company, Committee Chairman, Mr. Bev Brower of National Gypsum Company was Acting Chairman. This Report will actually discuss two meetings held on March 11, 1959 at the Essex House in New fork City. I. LIVING for Young Homemakers "Ail Asbestos-Cement House" promotion. This 5 A.M. Breakfast Meeting was attended by: Messrs. S. R. Ner.genroth, The Flintkote Co; E. A. Dennison, Johns-Manville; 3. R. Enslin, Keasbey & Mattison; A. K. Fay, National Gypsum; M. V. Engelbach, Kuberoid; K. Schwarz, Supradur, N. B. Jackson, Asbestos-Cement Products Association, H. F. Hunter, Ruder & Finn, and Bev Brower, National Gypsum Company, Acting Chairman. This was a special, unofficial committee, made up primarily of people from the Sales Engineering Com mittee. Mr. Bob Engelbrecht of LIVING for Young Homemakers delivered a preliminary talk about the project and then introduced Mr. R. Duane Conner of Oklahoma City the architect who is handling "The All Asbestos-Cement House: of this project. To refresh your memory, LIVING for Young Homemakers is working with several sssociations and companies, in addition to the Asbestos-Cement Products Association, such as the glass industry, Portland Cement, wood, aluminum, etc. Each industry is developing a house featuring its product within the house. As a result, Duane Conner has developed the "All Asbestos-Cement House." Although the house as designed, is several years ahead of us, it was enthusiastically accepted by the special com mittee. Later, it was presented to the Public Relations Committee and finally, to the Board of Directors, where it was approved. BREAKFAST MEETING ASBESTOS CEMENT HOUSE 23 - The Public Relations Committee sues many possibilities for publicity and promotion in connection vith this house, in addition to the two appearances w:;i<-h it will have in LIVING for Young Homemakers. The possibilities are especially prevalent in the architectural and builder fields. More details on this house will be presented at the next meeting. II. The regular Public Relations Committee meeting took place on March 11, 1959> 10 A. M. In attendance were: Messrs. B. L. Johnson, Johns-Manvilie; J. C. Affleck, Keasbey & Mattison; J. M. Hoare, Ruberoid; K. Schwarz, Supradur, representatives of Ruder & Finn, and Bev Brower, National Gypsum Company, Acting Chairman. As guests we were pleased to have Messrs. L. R. Hoff of Johns-Manville and R. M. Er.gelbrecht and R. D. Conner who represented LIVING for Young Homemakers. The Committee discussed the following business: The next issue of the Asbestos-Cement QUARTERLY was pre sented in art form. It was very well received by the Committee and it is recommended that all members give special attention to this issue of the QUARTERLY, when it is published in the near future. . The Public Relations program for 1959-60 wa3 presented so that it, in turn, could be presented to the Board of Directors in the afternoon. Since the committee was unable to give adequate study to the program, it has been adopted only tentatively - oecause authorization by the Board of Directors will not be given until the Committee has carefully studied the program in a special meeting to be held the first of April. It will then be presented to the Board as soon as possible. The script for the proposed farm film was studied. The Committee members made suggestions for its improve ment. A letter was presented from the Fibreboard Paper Products Corporation suggesting a special builder promotion with a particular builder on the West Coast. Since there is no budget for such a project, and since - in the opinion of your Public Relations Committee - the Philadelphia and Baltimore promotions were not as successful as it was hoped they would be, it was decided to indefinitely table the suggestion unless the Committee is otherwise instructed by the Board. REGULAR MEETING ASBESTOSCEMENT QUARTERLY PUBLIC RELATIONS PROGRAM 1959-60 FARM FILM SCRIPT WEST COAST PROMOTION * r The above business was followed by a report from Rill Ruder of Ruder & Finn, who briefly outlined the activities and plans of the Association's Public Relations Counsel: REPORT OF RUDER & FINN The year 1958 may have marked a turning point in several important aspects for the asbestos-cement industry* We believe there is more unified research and product development going on now in the industry than in many years. We have heard of the product being used more often on prestige build ings than in other years. Response and acceptance of the Asbestos-Cement QUARTERLY by professional designers and engi neers and the trade indicates a latent and surprisingly active interest in the material. Basically, however, the industry sill has a long way to go, is still running to catch up. Competing building material manufacturers have intensified their research, product develop ment and promotional activities. One has only to look at the current compaign of the National Lumber Manufacturers Associa tion to realise what the asbestos-cement industry faces - the Lumber Manufacturers Associations four page color ad in the February 9th issue of LIFE magazine cost an estimated $150,000 more than the Association's entire budget for one year. We estimate one of the major aluminum companies spends more money each year on promoting aluminum as a building product than all asbestos-cement manufacturers combined. This Is not criticism but reflects the competition the industry faces. During 1958, the industry's public relations program took some most important steps forward in promoting and educating key industry and trade leaders on asbestos-cement building products. Publication and establishment of the Asbestos-Cement QUARTERLY as the industry magazine highlighted the year's activities. This publication has been very well received by both the industry and by architects ar.d structural engi neers. For example, in the past few weeks, we have received letters from architects in five different states suggesting story material for future Issues. During the year, we took the asbestos-cement story to the American consumer via some 1,000 stories representing 200,000 lines of editorial copy and ICO telecasts of our new five-minute television film, "Exterior Decorating Your Heme.11 Feature stories on asbestos-cement appeared in important trade and farm magazines, including AMERICAN ROOFER, PRACTICAL BUILDER, HOARD'S DAIRYMAN, POULTRY JOURNAL and TURKEY PRODUCER. 25 - Finally, the industry plans for the future by sponsor ing a study program at the Princeton University School of Architecture. First report of the Architectural School brought out the need for a technical handbook on asbestoscement building products. However, this school will not specify recommendations until seme time in June. These will include plans for basic or applied research projects aimed at developing new uses for asbestos-cement products. Bev Brower Acting Chairman ASBESTOS CEMENT PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION Minutes of Informal Meeting Concerning Health and Safety Council ____ July 15, 1968 An informal meeting under the auspices of the Asbestos Cement Products Association (ACPA) was held on the invitation of Mr, Edward C. Cerny, Jr*, Treasurer of the Association, in the Board Room of Johns-Manville Corporation at 22 East 40th Street, New York at 10:30 A.M. on July 15, 1968* The following persons were present representing Asbestos Cement Products Association: A. H. Fay, President J. G. Hall, Vice President E. C* Cerny, Treasurer J. D* Moran J. H. Davies William A# Boylan, Counsel National Gypsum Company GAF Corporation Johns -Manvilie Corporation Flintkote Company Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives The following guests were present by invitation: Fred Netter Harold McNabb Paul Kipp Wendell Brown Jamas Suddeth David Weaver H. K* Ball D. L. Hinnton W. P* Raines C. L* Sheckler Supradur Corporation Certain-teed Products Corp. U.S. Gypsum Company U.S. Gypsiim Company Philip Carey Corporation Woodward Corporation Johns-Manville Corporation Johns-Kanville Corporation Johns-Manville.Corporation Johns-Manvilie Corporation Mr. Fay acted as Chairman of the meeting, and Mr. Boylan acted as Secretary thereof in the absence of Bradley Walls, Secretary of ACPA, who was attending a meeting relating to possible health and safety problems in the production and application of asbestos insulation at the New York Academy of Sciences with Dr* I. J. Selikoff of Mount Sinai Hospital, J. B* Jobe, J. M. Barnhart of National Insulation Manufacturers Association, A. E. Hutchinson of the Heat and Frost Insulators and Asbestos Workers Union and others# 2 Describing the background and purposes of the meeting, Mr. Fay stated that over a period of time AC PA had become in creasingly aware of possible health and safety hazards resulting from the production and use of asbestos cement products speci fically, as wall as asbestos products generally. He stated that members of ACPA thought it desirable to organize a health and safety council to provide interested persons with full informa tion concerning these problems and a framework for further activity. He reported that at a meeting of the Board of ACPA in June there had been a feeling that a health and safety council should be established and that interested persons who were not members of ACPA should be invited to join the council and parti cipate in its activities. Hr. Cerny then introduced Mr. Raines, who presented slides and movies showing publicity that has been given to health and safety problems in the asbestos industry. Hr. Raines stated that it had been determined that these risks were occupa tional and related to dosage and time, and that there was no evidence of risk to the general public and that Johns-Manville intended to continue to seek information and to improve health and safety conditions. Thereafter, Mr. Sheckler discussed problems that had arisen and the increasing interest of the federal government, labor organizations and plaintiffs in workmen's compensation proceedings and court actions. He pointed out that Dr. X. J. Selikoff's extended and specific remarks at a meeting of the International Union of Heat and Frost Insulators and Asbestos Workers had aroused great interest and that an ad hoc committee composed of repre sentatives of several corporations in the asbestos cement industry had drafted a booklet to be distributed to users.of asbestos cement setting forth recommended health safety practices. Copies of this draft had previously been circulated to those at the meeting. Hr. Sheckler added that the health and safety problems in connection with asbestos cement were in some respects dif ferent from those of insulation: in the manufacture of asbestos cement products the exposure might be higher than in the case of insulation products, but in the application of asbestos cement the risks might be lower# He reported that the studies Dr. Selikoff in New York and Dr. Cooper in Berkeley had been confined to insulation workers. 3 A general discussion followed che remarks by Mr. Raines and Hr. Sheckler Mr* Ball remarked that courts and workmen's compensa tion board currently appear to be friendly to plaintiffs claiming harmful results from working with asbestos* Kr* Sheckler advised that new health standards had been suggested by the American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists of only 2,000,000 particles per cubic foot* This standard is stricter than that suggested in the past (5,000,000 particles per cubic foot). As to the specific health problems presented, he reported that it was believed that development of silicosis required an exposure to dust over a period of 20-25 years and that the same period was required for the development of bronchogenic cancer. A third disease, mesothelioma, is rare, and little is known of it. It may or may not be related to dosage. Mr. Brown commented that the State of Illinois was becoming interested in asbestos health problems. Kr. Sheckler noted that insulation materials are now labeled with a warning notice and that respirators, approved by the Bureau of Mines, were not entirely effective in filtering dust. Mr. Fay reported on the research program of the Quebec Asbestos Mining Association, which has appropriated more than $250,000 in the past year. ACPA would not duplicate the research effort of QAMA, but would confine itself to appraising any health problems peculiar to the manufacturing aspects of the asbestos cement industry, assisting fabricators and users of asbestos cement products in any health and safety programs and cooperating with other private and governmental groups studying the same problems. He indicated that the draft booklet addressed to-users of asbestos cement, previously mentioned by Mr. Sheckler, prepared under the auspices of a group of asbestos cement manufacturers might be the first order of business of an ACPA Health and Safety Council. Mr. Fay reviewed draft By-Laws for the Health and Safety Council of ACPA, proposed an initial memoership payment of $50. per member (which for members of ACPA would be paid out of ACPA funds) and inquired of the visitors representing manufacturers who are not members of ACPA as to their interest. Representatives of three manufacturers indicated that their organisations would want to join, and representatives of two others indicated that they would have to report to their companies before giving final answers There was further general discussion of the different types of risks. Mr. Moran suggested that problems of distribution or pipe were different from other problems in connection with asbestos cement and suggested that pipe be handled separately. Thereafter, the meeting was adjourned for luncheon. Respectfully submitted, F.J. Solon W.P. Raines C.L. Sheckler cc: F.E. Dutcher D.L. Hinmon M F. MacDonald Division Headquarters June 27, 1968 1 Attached Letter Asbestos-Cement Products Association Health and Safety Council This meeting should be organized in the same way as our previous one since the objective will be to expose the potential new members of the Health and Safety Council of A-CPA to the importance of their participation in membership in and the work of the Health and Safety Council. You will note that the time has been tightened up somewhat because the only ones not now familiar with the facts are the representatives from Supradur, V.S. Gypsum, Philip Carey and Woodward. Since 1 am sure the Health and Safety Council will get under way, 1 would appreciate your opinion on who should represent J-M in this activity. Please note that the companies who will be in the Council are all the manufacturers of asbestos-cement products in the United States. This, of course, includes pipe, which is manufactured by Certain-teed, Flintkote, Woodward and J-M. I am sure that this group would welcome Cliff Sheckler for membership and would probably welcome his leadership. However, 1 ought to have some guidance on whether this fits in with your planning. E.C. Cerny 22 . AOfh STREET J0HNS-MaN VI LLE SALES CORPORATION NEW YORK, N.Y. 10016 TELEPHONE: 632-7600 AREA CODE 212 June 27, 196S TO DIRECTORS ASBESTOS-CEMENT PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION A. H. Fay - President National Gypsum Company J.G. Hall - Vice Pres, (unable to J.D. Moran atCen3 GAF Corporation Flintkote Company F.K Sweeney GAF Corporation J.H. Davies Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. B. M. Walls - Counsel & Secretary Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives TO OTHER ASBESTOS-CEMENT MANUFACTURING COMPANY REPRESENTATIVES Fred Netter (attachments) Supradur Corporation M.S. Davis Certain-teed Products Corporation Fred Williams (attachments) U.S. Gypsum Company Paul Kipp U.S. Gypsum Company Wendell Brown U.S. Gypsum Company James Suddeth (attachments) Philip Carey Corporation W.R. Bond (attachments) Woodward Corporation Ni TO OTHERS CONCERNED WITH ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL F.E. Butcher J-M D.L. Hinmon Af.J. Solon J-M J-M W.P. Raines J-M C.L. Sheckler J-M Gentlemen: Subject: Asbestos-Cement Products Association Health and Safety Counci] This will serve as confirmation of meeting to be held in the Johns-NnnvilJe Board Room on the 11th floor, 22 East 40th Street at 10:30 A.M. Monday, July 15 with luncheon in the Board Room at 12:30. The meeting will run from 10:30 A.M. to 12:15 P.M. and will conclude by 1:30 after luncheon is served. The meeting is under the auspices of the Asbestos-Cement Products A.ssociati on; and the purpose is to solicit membership in the newly-organized Health and Safety Council of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association and to set up programs for the Health and Safety Council to accomplish. All of those to whom this is addressed have indicated ability to attend. If you are unable to attend or if there are any substitutions or requested additions, please advise by telephone. As preparation for this meeting, I an enclosing the following for those who have not previously received this material: The JchnsManville position paper on Asbestos Environmental -Control and the two pamphlets recently issued by the National Insulation Manufacturers Association. ECC:sm Verv' truly yoyr^v ___^ u^--a < Eawavc! C. Corny, Jr. (Treasurer - A-CPA) Vice President and Merchandising Manager Rcsi dontial and Con^nerc ini Produc ts BUILDING AND FLOORING MATERIALS PI VISIONS "\ \ jOH N S - MANVI LLE SALES CORPORATION . \S 22 6. 40tH SJRECI NEW YORK, N.Y 10036 * TELEPHONE 532 7600 AREA CODE 212 > May 29, 1968 c r TO DIRECTORS MINERAL FIBER O^tSksW. Fay -/President) PRODUCTS BUREAU National Gwyp_ sum Company V^P'T^Cl* ^ J.G. Hall Y Vice President ^ GAF Corpoorraattiioon - ${) tKj !lM,4 ~ ru^.J.D. Moran'" F.K. Sweeney Fliutkote Company Q GAF Corporation >J?V-*yn A*? ' J.H. Davies V/v^Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, jj) B.M. Walls - Counsel & Secretary Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Ives 1 ' X* {<'J> TO ASBESTOS BUILDING PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COUNCIL C.X.. Sheckler - Chairman .Qs3~ Albert Alpine Harry Messier J-M Certain-teed Products Corp^. GAF Corporation - $r-yJ.^ ^hn-Tuf ly Eldrttko to-eompariy- 0 Frank Zimmerman tte National Gypsum Company ** , TO OTHERS J.W. Duncan .. rp 5::/V- National Gypsum Company > ~ a * w. M.S. Davis Certain-teed Products Corp. , F.E. Catcher J-M *-F.J. Solon J-M W.F.Raines J-M Gent!emen: Subject: Seminar on Asbestos Environmental Control This will serve as confirmation of meeting to be held in the Johns-Manvilie Board Room on the 11th floor, 22 East 40th Street at 10 A.M. Monday, June 17 with luncheon in the Board Room at 12:30. The meeting will run from 10 A.M. to 12:15 and from 1:30 to 3 P.M. The meeting is under the auspices of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau and the purpose is to determine any appropriate future series of actions by the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau. Because of space limitations, the meeting must be restricted to those to whom this is addressed, all of whom have indicated their ability to be present. In order to prepare you for this meeting, 1 am attaching the Johns-llanvillc position paper on this subject; also two pamphlets issued by the National Insulation Manufacturers Association on. "Recommended Health Safety Practices for Handling and Applying Thermal Insulation Products Containing Asbestos" and r,(the same ... Containing Mineral Fibers". Very truly yours, ECO:sm Edw Cerny, Jr. (Treasurer, MFPB) Vice Pr*esident and Merchandising Manager Resident ini And Commercial Products BUJI.DINO AND FLOORIN'C MATEUiALS DIVISIONS General Headquarters June 19, 1968 C. B. Burnett Results of joint Meeting Directors of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau and Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers' Environmental Health council (Cliff Sheckler's ________ ________ Group) Ed Cerny hosted meeting. A1 Fay of National Gypsum chaired. Solon-Raines presented audio-visual on asbestos-health. Went well. Many present surprised at seriousness of problem. Sheckler presented results of his committee's work. Lively discussion followed. We and Sheckler group left room so MFPB Directors could have formal meeting. They decided: 1) To change their name from Mineral Fiber products Bureau to Asbestos Cement Products Association. 2) To form a Health and Safety Council of ACPA. 3) To invite present non-members to join either the Association or the Council alone. Latter at about $50/year dues. 4) Al Fay of National Gypsum planning a July meeting, will invite George Pecaro, Tim O'Leary and officials of such companies as ' Carey, U.S.Gypsum, Certain-teed, Woodward iron - to get them to join. He has asked us to put on the same presentation. 5) ACPA Boards wants to cooperate in getting out the booklet for construction workers in 60-90 days. However, they want to limit distribution to contractors who have workers fabricating A/C products in confined areas. This will take care of National Gyp's objection that wholesale distribution would "Scare h----- out of everybody!n I'd say that at the moment everything is going along well. F. J. Solon, Jr , vv* ATTENDEES DIRECTORS MINERAL FIBER PRODUCTS BUREAU A.H. Fay (President) J.G. Hall (Vice President) J.D. Moran F.K. Sweeney J.H. Davies B.M. Walls VP - Marketing, National Sypsuin Company BP Division Mgr. - GAF Corporation BP Divisions Mgr. - Flintkote Company Gen.Mgr.Ruberoid Div. - GAF Corporation President - Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, I Counsel & Secy.- Davies, Hardy,Loeb,Austin Ives ASBESTOS BUILDING PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COUNCIL C.L. Sheckler - Chairman Albert Alpine Harry Messier Frank Zimmerman Walter Knorr J-M Certain-teed Products Corp. Safety Director - GAF Corporation National Gypsum Company Safety Director - Flintkote Company .OTHERS J.W. Duncan M.S. Davis F.E. Dutcher F.J. Solon,Jr. W.P. Raines VP Sales - National Gypsum Company Gen.Prod.Mgr. - Certain-teed Products J-M J-M J-M Philip s ag*n BJOCHNNNA*flOARMMAJTLRTMONOQ^f CYRUS AUSTIN Op.SjHCAAnRTMIh, RATWCNG WILLIAM A BOHAN VOHN W.OURNC ooseBHw durno y'O.N .CAP"CLL 6.GASTON C-UNO-IU JOHN A. ^ LA P H JO-N . OUODA-f JULIE" T. OAVlCS JOHN J OOnOvAN KSKNT -- W ORGENAAALT CECIL L. HEAO HCROIRt A -ICEP-VAGEN C-ARltt L U ERTR I O H OSRhOO IVES ROBERT , LAWT-(R SO SORT t.LOEP RAT-ONt) T HONSE'.L William T. Pullman BlaCkwBvL Smith ROBERT o.taiSCT BRADLEY WALLS MARVIN Y. YOUNG DAVIES, HARDY, LOEB, AUSTIN a IVES (OAVIE G , HAROr G SCHENCit) (f_C5G, Churchill a lawthep) (AUSTIN, URNS. SMITH ft WALLS) i. > MIDTOWN OFHCE 53S FIFTH AVENUE NEW YORK, N. Y. IQO IV TClCPhnc (li2}:i^a-soa CABLC AOORLSS "OVfiROAHS TWO BAOAQWAY NEWYOR,N.Y, IO0A June 28, 1968 TO DIRECTORS MINERAL FIBER PRODUCTS BUREAU A* K. Fay - President J. G. Hall - Vice President E. C. Cerny, Jr. - Treasurer J. D. Moran F. K. Sweeney J. H. Davies National Gypsun Company GAF Corporation Johns-Manville Flintlcote Company GAF Corporation Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc. TO ASBESTOS BUILDING PRODUCTS MANUFACTURERS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COUNCIL _______ ____________ C. L. ShecUler - Chairman Albert Alpine Harry Messier Walter Knorr Frank Zicxerrcan J ohns -1tanvi1 le Certain-teed Products Corp. GAF Corporation Flintkote Compaiay National Gypsum Company TO OTHER GUESTS J. W. Duncan M. S. Davis F. E. Dutchar F. J. Solon W. P. Raines National Gypsum Company Certain-teed Products Corp. Johns-Mnnville Johns-Manville J ohns-Manville Gentlemen: For your information and files, I enclose a copy of the 24inutes of the seminar on asbestos environmental control hold in the Johns-Manville Board Room on June 17, 1968. Yours sincerely. Minutes of Meeting of Board of Directors of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau June 17, 1968 A meeting of the Board of Directors of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau was called at the invitation of JohnsManville, and was held in Johns-Manville1s Board Room at 22 East 40th Street, New York, New York, on June 17, 1968 at 10 A.M, The following ware present representing Mineral Fiber Products Bureau: A, H Fay - President ' J. G. Hall - Vice President J* D. Moran C. Cerny F, K, Sweeney J. H, Davies B. M. Walls - Counsel & Secretary National Gypsum Company GAF Corporation Flintkote Company Johns-Kanville GAF Corporation Atlantic Asphalt & Asbestos, Inc Davies, Hardy, Loeb, Austin & Iv The following were in attendance representing the Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers Environmental Health Council: C. L. Sheckler - Chairman Albert Alpine Harry Kessler Walter Knorr . Frank Zimmerman Johns-Kanville Certain-teed Products Corp, GAF Corporation Flintkote Company National Gypsum Company Additional guests included: J. W. Duncan M, S. Davis F. E. Dutchar F* J* Solon W. P. Raines National Gypsum Company Certain-teed Products Corp. Johns-Kanville J ohns-Manville Johns-Manvilie The meeting which had been called to present a report by the Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers Environmental Health Council to the Board of Directors of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau was opened with remarks of welcome from Mr, Cerny of -2- Johns^Vlanvilie* Mr* Fay, the President of Mineral Fiber Products Bureau, chaired the meeting and acknowledged with thanks J-Mfs arranging this presentation of environmental health problems* Mr. Fay called upon Messrs. Solon, Raines and Sheckler of J-M to present their report. Mr. Solon reported J-M's finding to date of occupational problems concerned with asbestos building products and noted that the dosage of dust from such products and the time of exposure to such dusts v;ere related. He stated, however, that J-M had not discovered any risk to the general public at large from asbestos building products. He reported that J-M retains public relations counsel exclusively for health cotters. The firm retained is Hill and Knowltcn, who also represent the British Asbestos interests in the field of public health. Mr. Solon explained that the British arc considerably in advance of the Americans in the matter of asbestos and health control. J-M is cooperating with the British and is developing a library of information and is willing to cooperate with others on this subject. In response to a question, Mr. Solon noted that J-M did not participate directly in the Congressional hearings held to date on the Occupational Health and Safety Act of 1963 (HR 14816 and S. 2864). There was some discussion,of the Health and Safety Act of 1968 and it was noted by Mr. Sheckler that the Bill in its present broad form does not provide for the obligations of workers as well as of employers in the entire area of occupa tional health and safety. The Bill in its present form also raises questions of interference by the federal government with the police welfare and safety powers of the states. Mr, Sheckler noted the position of Dr. I. J. Selikoff of Mount Sinai Hospital, Kew York, in testifying in support of the Bill on behalf of the heat, frost and asbestos workers, that thermal insulation contractors are too small to help themselves and that federal legislation is necessary in occupational health areas. It was noted that an insulation industry hygiene council is to be established with a budget of approximately 1 nillien to be expended over a period of five years and which will initially focus on problems in the thermal insulation field. -3- An audio-visual presentation was made by Kr, Raines indicating the extent of public concern already expressed in television news reports and in newspaper and medical journals about the health hazards of asbestos building products* Mr* Sheckler discussed the moral and legal aspects of the problem of occupational health hazards* Ke noted that frequently Workmen1s Compensation cases have been the customary routine pursued when occupational illnesses arose* He noted, however, that third party suits in negligence against manu facturers which are outside of Workmen's Compensation cases are becoming increasingly popular. Sores such negligence suits have been for as much as $750,000. Already sons products such as insulation, are being labeled with cautionary advice* It was noted that as yet no attack has been made by labor unicr.s against employers in their wage negotiations on the basis that their employees are involved in extra-hazardous occupations. There has been seme movement by the unions to insist upon a contribution from members in the amount of $.25 per month per man for payment into a health fund. Presumably these contributions are passed on as negotiated wage increases. Studies made have indicated that insulation workers on the average experience pulmonary disease at the rate of 25% to 30%. These diseases are believed to be compatible with their occupation of being exposed to insulation* It was noted that the figure given is an average and that the greater amount of exposure and greater time of exposure resulted in an exploding graph of pulmonary disease among insulation workers. It was noted that the United States Public Health Service's theory is that asbestos fibers absorb trace metals such ac nickel, cobalt and chroma and when these fibers lodge in the human lung, these trace metals remain there. Dr. I. J. Sellkoff5s theory noted that there is no bronchogenic cancer among the insulation v?orleers v?ho do not smoke. Therefore, he theorizes that asbestos is a target of nxcotir.s :nd tars. Insulation worleers who smoke are much mo: liable to contract bronchogenic di It was Mr. Sheckler's feeling that although sor^e scientists and reporters may seem to promote undue publicity of the health hazard and thus demonstrate considerable irre sponsibility, Dr, Selikoff's work is highly regarded today. Dr, Selikoff himself has a formidable reputation as a scientist. Mr. Sheckler indicated that in his opinion the risk of disease is greater in the asbestos cement manufacturing operations than in insulation manufacturing operations. Ke believes that the presence of silica together V7ith asbestos in asbestos cement products adds greater hazard than that found in the insulation function. It was indicated that the new insulation industry hygiene council will conduct studies with a viev7 to protect asbestos v7orkers in the following areas: 1. identification of dust sources; 2. prevention of dust formation; 3. removal of dust; 4. protective masks; 5. housekeeping practices; 6. establishment of surveillance procedures: (a) dust levels; (b) material studied; and (c) trade practices. 7. medical surveillance; 8. cigaret smoking. It is anticipated that a scientific advisory co:mr.ittee may be appointed to the IIHC. Such a committee would probably include four medical doctors or scientists, such as Dr. E. K. Hammond (Epidemiologist), Dr. George Wright, Dr. Selikoff, Dr. Ferris (Professor Public Health at Harvard), Dr. Marvin ICushnor (cancer researcher at HYU). In addition, J-M nay provide assistance in the areas of engineering and research for a limited amount of time. It is also expected that the U. S, Public Health Service and the United States Bureau of Minas will sit in on the scientific committee. The Sew York Academy of Sciences will be the sponsor of the III-IC and its meetings will be held there. To illustrate the importance of the problem, Mr. Sheckler reported that many years ago the American Conference of Govern mental Industrial Hygienists held that the maximum allowable -5- amount of dust in the air should be 5.0 million particles per cubic foot. It is expected that this figure will be revised to a maximum allowable of 2.0 million particles per cubic foot. In situations presently existing with what is believed to be good dust control* Mr. Sheckler has observed the following concentrations of dust expressed in millions per cubic foot in the vicinity of the following machines: radial saw skil sax* (with exhaust) monolithic saw swing saw band saw edge trimmer lathes (generally high) 12.2 18.2 5.3 6.6 8.0 14.0 It was noted that masks in common use are approximately only 35!4 effective and that the health problem being studied does not occur as much in the mining operations of asbestos as it does in the milling and processing. After lunch, the meeting considered the role of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau in this expanding study of environ mental health. Consideration was given to a redefinition of purposes of the MFPB and the possible creation of a health and safety committee. Mr. Sheckler felt that the MFPB could be of greet value in dealing with fabricators and contractors in meeting with them ar.d talking with them about the problem. Some discussion was held on the advisability of focusing studies c;i the manufacturing and handling of asbestos cement products. This study would be of internal operations and would include exchange of information among manufacturers. In addi tion, it was believed that study should focus upon external oosratiens the relationships between the manufacturers and their customers. It was the consensus that the first point should be an appraisal within the industry of the gravity of the situation and that embarking upon extensive public relations, government reports and disSemitiction of booklets to the trade about health safety practices should be done after full consideration end understanding within the industry of problems peculiar to asbestos building products. Mr. Fay summarized discussion by stating that the M??3 would consider a change of its name to its former none, Asbestos-Cement Products Association; that it would consider appointment of a health and safety committee; that it would review its current purposes and amplify and revise them; that it would develop a plan to encourage asbestos cement producers of products to join that committee insofar as those activities related to the needs of other asbestos cement manufacturers. Mr. Fay felt that the draft pamphlet on recommended health safety practices for handling and applying health products be deferred in publication until all members of the Bureau had ample opportunity to consider the booklet. Mr. Sheckler's present committee will remain intact and has agreed to delay the publication of the Health Safety booklet for a period of sixty days pending further discussion Of thi3 ratter. Conveying the thanks of the MFPB to J-M and the participants in the seminar> Mr. Fay adjourned the meeting at Respectfully submitted, F. J. Solon - 12 ^ W.P. Raines - 12 C.L. Sheckler - Finderne Division Headquarters June 18j 1968 cc; F.E. Dutcher * 11 M.F. MacDonald - 7 Seminar on Asbestos Environmental Control This is a brief summary of the results of the meeting held in the J-M Board Room on June 17 with the Directors of the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau and the group known as the Asbestos Building Products Manufacturers Environmental Health Council: 1. There was unanimous approval and expression of appreciation for the fine present ation by Messrs. Solon, Raines and Sheckler. 2. While some had an intimation of the problem, most were unaware of the severe involvement they may have with this potential health problem, and the meeting served to open their eyes. 3. Actions planned by the Mineral Fiber Products Bureau: a. The name has been changed back to the Asbestos-Cement Products Association. b. A "Health and Safety Council" has been formed which will operate as a separate organization within and under the auspices of the ACPA. c. The Health and Safety Council will operate with broad objectives to bring both plant processing and field applications of asbestos-cement products \?ithin satisfactory health and safety limits. The most immediate objective will be approval and/or modification of the draft on "Recommended Health Safety Practices for Handling and Applying Asbestos-Cement Products" as prepared under the auspices of Cliff Sheckler and his Council. This may be distributed initially only to fabricators who have similar conditions to the manufacturers of asbestos-cement. Then field studies will probably be initiated to determine the extent of asbestos dust concentration in field applications of various types of asbestos-cement material? with the ultimate objective of setting safety standards where these are needed. d. Invitations to join the Council will be extended to manufacturers of asbestoscement products who are not now members of the ACPA; viz.: Carey, Supradur, USG, Certain-teed. Woodward Iron. There will be a nominal initiation fee of $50. e. In order to put across to these organizations not represented at the meeting on June 17 the need for the Health and Safety Council, an identical present ation is planned for July 9, 15, or 17 from 10:30 to noon followed by luncheon. In addition to the proposed new members, it was requested by Messrs. Moran and Sweeney that invitations to attend be extended by them to Messrs. Pecaro and 0TLeary, who (they are sure) are just not aware of the probl f. President A1 Fay is making the arrangements for the date and the invitations. When this is settled, we will have to zero in on the best place for this meeting. If held on the 15th, we will use the Large Board Room. If on the 9th or 17th, probably at the Union League Club. r E/C. Ccrny //A_y CGRI X V r r T 7 A !, Environmental Control Eepcrtiscmt Keaecreh 6 Engineering Center June ?0, 196$ . E. C. Ceruy - tl!Q Semi war on Arbe9tosCu'ecit invtrout*vital control _____ ___ Yeur letter Jure* 1C. 1966 On bohalX of cur J-tl Environmental Control fe?a?u*nt sn6 cut Asbe$tea Building Product* Menufactuvora Enviror.^utal Health Council, I wieb to thank you lor firvoniu the ittotlug of June 17, 1962. 1 va/, ecpeclally pleased vtih your remote of the action taken by th* HP PS 5oard of Directors corcemins thaiv desire to purrue health safety practices both in KftouteotvYicv* end Ubrication-appUcntlcn. As indicated at (he s.ccti tvp, will coin to in our present Asbcsto* Building Prcdi'Cta il-it-nxacturere Environmental health Council* Ve vill cooperate end coordinate activities vith yout* t'U^n until ruc.U c tlr^e t.l^t both or^suiirctionr ogteo it ir advr.uir psoas. to ccrmiur into cro or; onl/ation. We vtU cclny printing n::d cUctv i5\U? ai of b: ';?.?* ''U.ctr.'-^'vlH* Ik r 3 th Soitcy !to?.'tleaf icr KsrxUUg end Applying Ac has U- `'-Corr>r.t 'Voducts" for t;*o icontl;-; f-cctdlrt,^ recro*miration of yaug KFf' A^sc-cisc Ur,. Dietribut!of *ho beetle tr*, Held studies of dust eo:ic*i: atrocious in tVJc industry, ore., arc dcctils ihni con h: *< orl f-sd cut after wo hove rtrchtd a determination concerning th? organ! ?*cU;? si i;t?ucrvro* A you ere aware, X fc.nvs* fctan asKip.ncd the rctpon-iiillty viihi i cur cvn ccmv n;\ to prepare, vublish nr.d XoUo'7 through vj.lh t-m* tlincrilyr^ft c-f * I": alt:: i nu; cy booklet rc.;crJin- Arbor-fc.:-Cs -out ar<;;h>cl. 1 will, ihcrc.ioto, conti :*u: viih thi? project until St bj? b?*rj complc to,k In crv*er to provide you vith bach ground ini ormatioi ccr.cc^cinj prccticos ft'id Activities in rolatic to ;;n"vf rca t^l Control, ofcor-iio* bull**ci., Ft/jnJcrJ turret.",A>linut.U! if-, corrrmM; ci i J-!l policies n cnclr-r ii-.v f:OC, etc. Your luntr.i* U.-Ucates pleat, for n r oiUr cvnilnble curing the vi-sh of July 6-12. mil. July 9, 15 cr 17. I vf.il t::-i b2 1 will \ i available cn the I5i.li cr CUAmv. Enc. cc: C. E. Iv.r.'tll ~ c::w A. C. tvitn F. T,. tut char - C::r n. E. >Jiicvusld - CU-? Cv L. ifcxchlcr f, j. ioiou - n:^ * m, V*. v.ftio.eu GUV File C Division hoocVuartors June 20, 156? F.E. Butcher H.l\ on* Id F.J. Solon V.?. Heines C.L. She^kler - FinJcme Senior on A^h^toe Fnviron^nt^l Control * This jfl a follow-up to ny letter o June 16 '.Such vas a simmy o< the twothv on Juno 17, >' Plcrnc note the otteehod of for the proposed Health and S>foty Council of the A* be*, toe-Co: mil: Trodn't" As'o-^ticn. I oen too iwfMny '.Ton3 vxth the \>oy thie hss boon put together (am1 lvvo no :u'vi*e<t SriJlc-y V JJ''). oni btlicvn th.it the Count:.*' vlll ho a vv.lueble irv'ti^t try-vide v; hlrlo for th.- pith 11 : .11 i on or eny ho a! L*h e nf s r' 0 ty s tan-.' 2 rde. The c'ato o' the ne>:t mooting his not vet bo;n cei *1>1 ro^ thrt three o - i?y 6, 15, or 17, but I *.111 advise you as soon as 1 h-nir /roe* .M y.y. .>.* --- 1 ., ** ' * '< > ~- Mineral Fiber i?rodliuc4s DtareaM ROOM 2300 535 flffM AVENU1 MW YORK. NEW YORK 10017 /W/* 7V ' . /^jr June 19, 1968 */ MJ2J4J)JWi_N_DJJ_M_ TO: Messrs* A* H. Fay J. G. Hall ' . ? J. Moran '. F. K, Sv7eeney , J. H. Davies E. C. Cerny Gentleman: ' 1 enclose a rough first draft of a set of By-Lara fox the proposed Health and Safety Council of the Asbestos- . Cement Products Association. J^ay_JLJn5Z^ theee_iest_conveniGnco_po.j:hatcpso bind^\ of coral-final draft can be put into the hands of prospective members of the Council before our July meeting. Ao 1 c::- plained to you, I am trying to imitate the arrangement created by the Asphalt Roofing Manufacturers Association fox its Western and Southern Committees, both of -which have members who are not members of the Association. *, 1 feel that it is important that the Health and Safety Council should operate under the organizational umbrella and the legal setup of the A-CPA. Aside froii the obvious benefits of being an arm of an established organisa tion, this arrangement would insure the tax deductibility of contributions to the Council. I .1 Yours sincerely. * i i j i BMW: Is i Encs. AaAa . . DRAFT # 1 - JUNE, 1968 ; ' ; BY-LAWS .' . . of the ' . . . ' HEALTH & SAFETY COUNCIL ' of the ' ' ASBESTOS-CEMENT PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION ARTICLE I - NAME. . ' ' The name of this organization shall be the Health & Safety Council of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association. ARTICLE II - PURPOSES. ' 1. The Council is the official channel of the Asbestos- - Cement Products Association for the exploration, development, study, coordination, collaboration, promotion and publication of health and safety programs related to the asbestos-cement industry and asbestos-cement products. 2. The Council shall initiate, develop and direct studies and public relations programs designed lawfully to promote and foster health and safety policies and programs for the asbestos- cement industry as will tend, (a) To appraise and resolve health and safety problems peculiar to the asbestos-cemant industry for manufacturers of asbestos- cement products; and (b) To assist fabricators and users of asbestos- cement products in their health and safety programs; and 2 (c) To cooperate with other groups, governmental or private, studying and reporting on health and safety problems of the asbestos- . ^* cement industry* - ` 3# This organization is not organized for pecuniary profit* ARTICLE 111 - MEMBERSHIP< Asbestos-Cement Products Association Members Members of the Asbestos-Cement Products Association are eligible for appointment by the Board of Directors of A-CFA for membership in the Council. Each Association member having representation on the Council may have only one official Council'., member who may designate an alternate to function in his stead * when occasion may require. * Non-Asbestos-Cement Products Association Members - Those individuals, partnerships and corporations who maira* faefcure asbestos-cement products, but are not membero of A-CPA may be appointed to membership in the Council by the Board of Directors of A-CPA upon payment of an initiation fee of $50 to the Council. NOTE: (a) Membership in Che Council shall not be construed to entitle non-members of A-CPA any of the rights end privileges concomitant with membership in the A-CPA. . ., > 3- . - " (b) The Board of Directors reserves the right to , v ' ' terminate any"membership in the Council without ,. . cause. . * '' (c) Any member of the Council may resign his Council . membership at any time by givit\g written notice . . *. of resignation to the President of A-CPA, but . . ' shall not be entitled to any refund of voluntary contributions theretofore made to the funds of the Council. ARTICLE IV - MEETINGS. 1 ' ' ' ' 1. Meetings of the Council shall be called by the President of the Council, a majority of the . mergers of the Council or by the President of A-CPA. *. ' . 2. Notices of Meetings shall be issued to Committee . members only from the offices of the A-CPA, end each such notice shall be accompanied by a written agenda detailing the subjects to be considered, and no subjects not on the agenda shall corns before the Meeting. ARTICLE V - OFFICERS. ' The Council shall elect annually from its members a President and a Vice-President who shall serve until the next annual elec tion or until their successors shall have duly qualified. .. 4 - The Secretary of A-CPA shall act as Secretary of the Council and the Treasurer of the Council shall be the Treasurer of A-CPA. ARTICLE VI - MINUTES. . ' . Minutes of all Council proceedings shall be duly kept, re* viewed by legal counsel of A-CPA, and distributed to all Council members as well as to members of the Board of Directors of A-CPA when legal counsel shall so advise, ARTICLE VII' - COUNCIL FUNDS, The funds of the Council, together with records of receipts and disbursements therefrom, shall be kept separate froa the funds of A-CPA, Council funds will derive froa voluntary con tributions that may be made by A-CPA members, Non- ACPA metiers, and concerns who cell materials used in the manufacture of achestoo- cement products. The amounts and methods of contributing shell be aa determined by each individual contributor, . ARTICLE VIII - REVIEW, All policies and programs of the Council are subject to review by the Board of Directors of A-CPA and by A-CPA legal counsel, ARTICLE IX - AK5ND1TENTS, The Council may propose amendments to these By-Laws as experience may suggest to the Board of Directors of A-CPA for approval or disapproval of. all proposed amendments to these By-Lawo, ' .: - si i - 5- '\ ARTICLE X - DISSOLUTION . '* . ' 1, The Council may be dissolved by the vote or written `'Ji consent of two-thirds of the Council or by resolution of the I ' Board of Directors of A-CPA. . . 2. In the event of the dissolution of the Council.each ' " number thereof at the time of such didsolution shall be entitled 1 A , to a refund from the net assets of the Council according to such Member1s total contributions to the Council# i \ 1 5 l t \