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FILE NAME: FEL DATE: 1986 July 22 DOC#: FEL001 DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: Legal -Testimony of FelPro to EPA
BEFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
ASBESTOS? PROPOSED MINING AND IMPORT RESTRICTIONS AND PROPOSED MANUFACTURING, IMPORTATION, AND PROCESSING PROHIBITIONS,
40 CPR Part 763 Docket Control No. OPTS-62036
TESTIMONY OF FEL-PRO INCORPORATED, MCCORD GASKET CORPORATION, SUBSIDIARY OF 'EX-CELL-0 CORPORATION and VICTOR PRODUCTS
DIVISION, DANA CORPORATION
July 22, 1986
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J U PLAINTIFFS I EXHIBIT I DV -112
Mr. Chairman and Panel Memberss My name is Ken Lehman, and I am President and Chief Sales and Marketing Officer of Fel-Pro, Incorporated, located in Skokie, Illinois. Accompanying me today are Eugene R. Field, President of McCord Gasket Corporation, subsidiary of Ex-Cell-0 Corporation, located in Detroit? Richard B. Forde, Vice president and General Manager of Victor Products Divi sion, Dana Corporation, located in Lisle, Illinois; Don McDowell, Fel-Pro*s Technical Director; Richard Russell, Vice President-Engineering of McCord; and Marc Fleischaker, our attorney. These gentlemen will help answer any questions which the panel has following my prepared remarks. Fel-Pro Incorporated, McCord Gasket Corporation, sub sidiary of Ex-Cell-0 Corporation, and Victor Products Divi sion, Dana Corporation are major manufacturers of gaskets used in exhaust systems and turbochargers, cylinder heads, intake manifolds, and engine and gear cases.. We have brought along some examples of these products for the Panel's review. Historically, the qualities requisite to a satisfactory gas ket product -- heat resistance, chemical inertness, and service- life.vlongevity -- have been best achieved by the use of materials containing asbestos. Gaskets, while clearly addressed by the proposed rule, have received little attention either in public comments submitted on the proposal, or in these hearings.
Nevertheless, the proposal would have a significant impact on each of. our companies, and we believe that it will be useful for the EPA to have our perspective on the proposed regula tion.
We support the EPA's desire to eliminate asbestos from the marketplace. In our testimony today we will discuss why we have reached this conclusion, and provide alternate suggestions as to how this goal can be met for gaskets.
It might be useful initially for us to provide some background information about why we are testifying as a group. Some two years ago, it became evident during informal conversations at various industry meetings that each of our companies was concerned about the use of asbestos in our products,. While we have no evidence whatsoever that the use of asbestos in automotive gaskets has ever caused health problems either in our own workplaces or among persons who work with motor vehicles, our companies independently had reached the conclusion that the use of asbestos should be eliminated. There were two reasons for this cpnclusion. First, asbestos had obviously become a societal concern, and we therefore felt a social responsibility to deal with its use. Second, we recognized that the failure to deal with this issue could, in the longer run, lead to worker dissatisfaction and increasing litigation for which liability insurance will be prohibitively expensive or unavailable.
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Because of these mutual beliefs, our three companies have met several times during the past two years -- with legal counsel present -- to discuss issues connected with the phasing out of asbestos. In addition to monitoring governmental activity, we have exchanged information about the reactions of some of our major customers to the elimination of asbestos, the incentives which may be available from insurance companies to eliminate asbestos, and the availability of substitutes for particular applications. We believe that our discussions have been fruitful, and they are continuing.
During the intervening two years,, our companies' desire to deal progressively with the asbestos situation has not vaivered.
Our companies have independently committed themselves to removing asbestos in gaskets, and have made substantial progress in doing so. Fel-Pro, McCord and Dana are all converting f-rom asbestos to substitute products/as early as such a conversion is feasible. This conversion is very expensive in retooling and other costs. While the conversion is not arid will not be at the same time for all three companies for each product,- it will be based upon the ready availability of substitutes which are fully functional in the applications in which they are used, and the ability to offer the substitutes at competitive prices. Needless to say, it
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does no good to switch to asbestos substitutes if our customers won't buy them either because of cost or their inability to function properly.
The phasing out of asbestos should not be a competitive issue. Presumably it should be done as a matter of public health. We are concerned , hoVever, that the proposed regulation would make the decision whether or not to continue to use asbestos a competitive one, and would even have the effect in some cases of encouraging its use. This situation, of course, should not be tolerated.
Specifically, we are concerned that under a permit system^as proposed, companies such as ours would suffer a severe competitive disadvantage in the market (because of the higher cost of substitutes), while manufacturers and importers not yet committed to conversion would enjoy a distinct marketing advantage? these firms could sell their asbestos product at far lower prices than we could sell our substitute products. Moreover, they would have access to significant amounts of asbestos from a variety of sources. They can apply for their allocated amounts; or they can import cheaper asbestos products; they can negotiate for additional amounts under the proposed permit transfer provision? and, finally, they can stockpile still more under the proposed banking provision. Under the permit system, a company could even increase its use of asbestos for
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short-term competitive reasons. This would serve neither the
interests of the regulation, nor the interests of the more
responsible companies which are reducing asbestos use.
The permit system as presently proposed will not
reduce asbestos use in gaskets as anticipated. We are
concerned that the availability of permits which are
marketable and freely transferable will actually slow down
the ultimate elimination of asbestos, and undercut the
underlying purpose of regulation. There may even be more
asbestos available for various products, such as gaskets,
because of the elimination of asbestos from other products,
and the ability of those permit holders to sell their rights
to use asbestos. Instead of searching for substitute
products, users will be encouraged and permitted to continue
using asbestos. If anything, the approach-adopted by EPA
should reward firms which phase out asbestos more quickly
than required, and penalize those which delay.
Perhaps this concern can be illustrated by the
following charts
Control Level
Asbestos Fiber Importer
Industrial Asbest6s Material Importer
Asbestos Product
Importer
Industrial Material Producer
Product Producer
Product Producer
End User
End User
End User
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Under the proposed regulation, the EPA control would always be on the importer. While this may be efficacious from the EPA standpoint, it threatens to cause havoc in the gasket industry, and presumably in other product categories as well. The competitive dislocations at the product producers level could be severe.
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Under the proposal, the controlled party could be an
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importer of asbestos, an importer of asbestos sheet for subsequent use in gaskets, or an importer of gaskets. Under the proposal, if during the phase-down period the asbestos importer .reduced the level of his imports, he could sell the right to import additional asbestos to an actual gasket manufacturer. Or, the reverse could happens the importing gasket manufacturer could reduce the use of asbestos, and sell his allocated or "banked" share to either an asbestos importer or the importer of sheeting material. We do not believe this is a logical way to reduce the use of asbestos, and we believe that it would injure domestic gasket manufacturers -- such as ourselves -- who are switching to substitutes, and inevitably charging higher prices as a result. Why should a gasket importer be allowed to increase
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his use of asbestos as a direct result of the aggressive
elimination of asbestos by a domestic manufacturer, and
thereby gain a price advantage over domestic producers? We
do not believe this is a logical way to regulate.
Our concern is heightened by the cost advantages
currently enjoyed by foreign producers of gaskets. These
cost advantages have been exacerbated by the new OSBA
regulations which are applicable only to domestic producers
and which will require expensive plant modifications. The
EPA proposal threatens to provide even more advantages to the
foreign producers. The .S. government should do all that it
can to avoid this result.
For all of the above reasons, we support a regulation
based upon product group categories. This regulation should
contain specific dates after which asbestos may not be used
in products manufactured -n- or -imported-,into the United
States. This restriction need not apply at the customer or
installer level, since that use will automatically be
eliminated a relatively short time after importation or
manufacturing is halted.
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What should that timetable be? Our companies are
moving to asbestos-free products as rapidly as technology and
competition will permit. To use substitutes prematurely --
before they are proven safe and effective -- would amount to
exposing the public to safety risks and potentially higher
warranty and product repair costs.
Insofar as gasketing material is concerned, costly
substitutes are now available -- or soon will be -- for many
gasket applications. Gaskets are produced in a variety of
shapes, sizes, and compositions accommodating thousands of
specific' end uses, with each being put to different tempera
ture and operating conditions. To accommodate reasonably all
manufacturers, including the lead time required for engine
and vehicle manufacturers to plan for and field test changes,
we have recommended that three years be given to eliminate
asbestos from gaskets used in an engine environment in which
the highest operating temperature is under 400*. Where the
operating temperature is between 400* and 750*, we recommend
five years. Where temperatures exceed 750*, elimination of
asbestos will take longer, and we recommend eight years. Our
research to date has yielded no adequate substitute for all
applications at these high temperatures. These time periods
for a ban should apply universally to both original equipment
and in the aftermarket.
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Our proposal would result in gaskets being in excess
of 90 percent asbestos free within' five years. Details on
this calculation are provided in the appendix to this
testimony.
In short, our companies do not quarrel with the EPA objective of eliminating the use of asbestos in gaskets. We do take exception, however, to the method chosen to effectuate a phase-down, and believe that a complete ban on importation and manufacturing on a date certain would be a preferable approach.
We appreciate this opportunity to present our views on the EPA proposal. My colleagues and I will be pleased to try to answer any questions which you may have.
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GASKET ENVIRONMENT PROFILE
APPENDIX A
Gasket Environment (1)
Application Description T 2 T --------
Under 400*
Intake Manifold*
Relative Material Req. (y * --
Relative
mProduct Mix -----------------
Weighted Usage 73747
% Total Of Usage Appi-. Cum.
X 1
67
67
17% 17%
400-750*
Cylinder
x3 .
100
Head
300
75% 92%
Above 750* Exhaust
x 1
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33 '
33
8% 100%
400
100% 100%
* ^ And other miscellaneous gaskets
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PPENDIX B
RECOMMENDED ASBESTOS BAN SCHEDULE
Completion Weighted % of Total
Under 400*
3 YRS 17%
Effective Ban Schedule End of: Year 1
2 3
5.6% 5.7% 5.7%
4 5 6
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GASKET ENVIRONMENT
400* to 750*
Above 750*
Program Total
5 YRS 75%
8 YRS . 8%
AS
SUGGESTED
CALCULATED
USE
15.0% 15.0% 15.0%
15.0% 15.0%
1.0% 1.0% 1.0%
1.0% 1.0% 1.0%
1.0% 1.0%
21.6%
20%
21.7%
20%
21.7%
20%
16.0%
15%
16.0%
15%
1 .0%
4%
1.0%
3%
1.0%
3%
17.0%
75.0%
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8.0%
100%
100%
APPENDIX C
EFFECTIVE ASBESTOS BAN
Index
Year 1 2 3
EPA PROPOSAL-BAN % CUM
AVG SI-'SS
ADJ to *85 Sales
1 00
120
Index
%
70%
90/120
. 75%
73%
93
78%
76%
96
80%
GASKET INDUSTRY PROPOSAL
AVG '81- *83 too
ADJ to 85 Sales
120
Index
%
20%
40/120
30%
40%
60
50%
60%
80
67%
A
79%
99
83%
75%
95
79%
/4
82%
102
85%
90%
no-
92%
85%
105
88%
94%
114
95%
* V.
(
* *
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' *10
11
88%
108
91%
111
94%
114
97%
117
100%'
120
90% ` 93% 95%
98%
100%
97% 100%
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117 120/120
98% 100%