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PAT TULLY ANDY DITO JIM GRAY DON KUHARIK JIM SUMMERS BOB ElDEN JIM SUMMERS^ ORIGINATOR: MARK N. COHEN DATE OF CALL: 10/22/86 CUSTOMER: AMUROL PRODUCTS COMPANY DIVISION OF WRIGLEY CHEWING GUM NAPERVILLE. IL CONTACTS/POSITION: DAVE MOORE - MANAGER RESEARCH S. DEVELOPMENT PURPOSE OF CALL: To review Thumb Sucker program. REMARKS: General Business Activity: Based on my meeting with Andy Dito from last week, it has been decided to go back into Able Molded and try to run on the hot runner molds with some more Geon 86153 with Marty Zemanek present. Regardless if this trial i6 successful or not, Wrigley feels that there i6 some tremendous merit to going to the flexible PVC to replace the Kraeton for their product. The first being clarity for their packaging, and the second being price advantage versus the Kraeton. Technical Information/Problems: The following questions came up during our discussion and need to be addressed. 1. The Geon 86153 is being hot filled at 275F. and after a ten minute cooling period, the plastic is probably cooled to approximately 220F, and then after 20 minutes, it is down to 100F and the hard candy has solidified. The ingredients are the hard liquid candy and then there is a bubble gum bonus beneath the hard candy layer. The 86153 thumb mold encapsulates this candy product. Andy Dito has parts at ALTC. Continued T 600SSTZZ r-V E CUSTOMER CONTACT REPORT/AMUROL PRODUCTS COMPANY OCTOBER 22. 1986 PAGE 2 Technical Information/Problems: (Cont.) 2. Additional parts are being forwarded to Jim Summers for the following. Due to the fact that it is a hot fill application at 275F, is it possible to monitor and analyze the finished products for various contaminate levels? Jim. with the parts sent in, please advise. 3. Also, the parts are filled from a 24 cavity metal jig, in which they are immersed vertically. When filled with no cooling, the 2-1/2 inch long thumb shrinks from an 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch. Dave Moore believes that gravity is the only thing that keeps the part from shrinking even further, or from total failure. 4. When 50F water is circulated throughout the jig. the parts shrink to a degree but not anywhere near the excess mentioned above. Jim, one of these parts is also being sent for analysis. Could you please compare the lengths between the hot filled part, the part filled during cooling, and the unfilled part to see what the total overall shrinkage is? 5. It has been suggested to go to a thinner wall because the material is still a little too stiff and it is hard to peel off of the molten candy. If we go to a thinner wall, will this lead to more or less shrinkage? Would a softer compound, if developed, also be affected by the high heat fill? Would it shrink more? Would we have an additional problem with contaminates in a new compound? 6. The Wrigley's FDA requirements for this fall under FDA 175.300 and the Paragraph 21 CFR for hot deposit contact. Again, they are putting the burden on us to let them know what contaminates if any will be transferred from the PVC into the molded candy. 7. Presently, the Kraeton parts are in the metal jig and vertically immersed and no cooling fixture exists. If it appears that PVC is a good compound, then a cooling jig will be built for all of the fixtures. Present volume is approximately 600.000 pieces per week, which would translate into approximately 6 to 8,000 pounds of material per month. 8. Jim, would it be worthwhile evaluating our citroflex(SP?) based compound and/or Geon 86251? Continued OTOSSTZ?! CUSTOMER CONTACT REPORT/AMUROL PRODUCTS COMPANY OCTOBER 22. 1986 PAGE 3 Technical Information/Problems; (Cont.) 9. Lastly, would it be possible to blend an alloy to get a transparent, FDA approved flexible that would have a higher heat distortion temperature -so that we don't see the excessive melting or shrinkage of the part at this temperature? Wally, could you please advise if any of this correlates at all with the USP Class 6 rating that we received on the Geon 86153? Lastly, we discussed our rigid .bottle compound as Amurol frequently specifies PVC bottles for their chewing gum displays. Bob, I will call to discuss. ACTION REQUIRED BY TIM SUMMERS/WALLY BACHTEL JIM SUMMERS JIM SUMMERS ACTIONS REQUIRED: Please advise if it's possible to monitor and analysis a finished product for various contaminate levels. ** Please advise if we are working with the correct compound. . Would it be possible to try a different compound or an alloy and also respond in regards to a softer compound and how it will be affected by the higher heat. RESPONSE (HANDWRITTEN) ATE : /> (ONLY RESPOND IF WARRANTED), IA ' t r V f* \ { j [ ? i i 6"tf>l/xJL, IIAiLu&C MCC/dr/4490c / 0/22/86 -- T10/22/86 cconn H- T