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QUINCY - Shipyard workers who are getting results from
asbestos-related lung disease tesliailaooing advised to seek
medical help may have another problem - finding the appropriate treatment.
Dr. Robert Clubb, medical director of the Boston-based National Asbestosis Foundation,
maintains the medical profession is not fully aware of how treatable
the disease is. "It IS felt by the majority of the
physicians that asbestosis is a hopeless disease and that's not true ... there are a lot of things that can be done for these people," Clubb said.
Dr. Bartley Cilento of Scituate, president of the Norfolk South
Distlict Medical Society, dis agrees with that assessment. He maintains most physicians in the county have been appraised of the situation and are prepared to control the disease in their patients. "Asbestosis was a subject of dis cussion at one of our more recent
meetings," he said. "You can have a positive test,
but it does not mean its life threatening."
Some 300 workers at the Quincy shipyard last week began receiving results of tests done in Novem-
ber by Dr. Irving Selikoff of New York. The study was confined to those who worked at the yard 12 or more years ago.
Selikoff said he could not comment on the specific results. until the study is com pleled.
Earlier reports indicated the results would show more than 80
percent of the workers suffering from scar tissue fr<wJ asbestos.
But if the calls to the Norfolk County Hospital in Braintree, which specializes in respiratory
disease. are any indication. the
number of positive results is not
high. K~vin Kenny, public relations
director for the hospital. said four men called last week saying Selikoff had recommended they
seek medical help. Each sched uled appointments.
The disease can't be cured. but the symptons can be treated. he said. The hospital can prescribe
medicine to reduce lung congestion and exercises to increase the capacity of the undamaged sections of the lung.
In some cases the patients will only need to be told to stop smok ing and avoid contact with any
other dangerous substances that could harm lungs already damaged. he said.
~Clubb said other studies showed
that 95 percent of those exposed to
asbestos develop some type of :. lung-related diseases over time, i
mcJuding lung cancer and bronchitis.
It takes 10 years for the first signs of complications to surface
and then the complications become increasingly worse over the next 20 to 40 years.
"But I think that just because there is scar tissue, that does not mean they're going to get cancer; I not at all." He said about 10 percent develop cancer of the lungs, while another 20 percent
develop other fatal bronchial complications.
But what that really means is
that 70 percent won't die from the disease," Clubb &aid.
He said something must be done to ensure "thatthese guys do obtain good !lllldical care and means for proper survival. What is going to happen is that when they develop shortness of breath and can no longer function on the job, then I imagine they will either quit, be fired of retire."
It is up to labor unions, industry
and insurance colnpanies to ensure the proper medical treat-
ment. he said. ..- .
The facts on asbestos
Fifteen years ago, asbestos figured
in the news only in terms of the world
market for its uses, the price, and
whether its applications could be
expanded to the general benefit of
mankind. Today, we are uncomfort-
ably aware of walking on floor tiles
made from it, or under ceiling tiles
from which tiny, invisible, deadly
fibres may be drifting down- to join
those that billow forth from the brake
linings of automobiles.
Awareness... of hazard to._.asbestos
rec:..worken. has been fairly well estab-
lished for some years, officially
ognized to a degree by the changed
attitudes of the Workmen's Compen-
sation Board. The apprehended threat
to the general public is a more recent
phenomenon, and one that has been
marked by chaotic responses. Should
this ceiling be allowed to remain?
Should that duct be torn out? Would it
be wise to close the school altogether? Would paint hold the fibres in
place on fire dampers? How many
fibres per cubic centimetre can be
tolerated? Is there no alternative
substance?
In dealing with any threat, it is a
fairly sound rule to begin by taking its
measure; by assembling the facts
from the best known authorities and,
if necessary, by commissioning new
studies. The Ontario Government bas
made the right move by setting up a
three-man royal commission to look
into the hazards of asbestos and to
recommend safety standards.
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Something of the kind might have
occurred sooner (Opposition nagging
goes back quite a long way) but the
move is welcome nevertheless -
doubly so with the assurance of Labor
Minister Robert Elgie that the new
commission would q~ithe.r stall nor
displace other efforts to obtain information or establish safety. "If further
immediate action of a remedial na-
ture appears to be warranted," said Dr. Elgie, "we will not hesitate to act simply because a commission has
been appointed to conduct a thorough
study of the entire subject." There is much to be studied, and a
lllm"ber of different opinions to be resolved - among them the selection of a standard of safety in terms of fibres per cubic centimetre of air. New Democratic Party Leader Michael Cassidy, noting that the Gov-
ernment had been reviewing occupa-
tional exposure standards since 1978.
said that the current standard of two fibres was much too high and that it should be .5 or .l.
This proposal carries with it the
weight of apparent U.S. Government endorsement. Earlier this month, Jo Lindhard, an employee with the standards branch of the Occupational
Safety and Health Administration in
Washington, said that within a year
the United States would probably
adopt a standard between .5 and .1.
(The standard at present is the same
as Ontano:s- 2 fibres per cc.) The royal commission may be able
to help make an intelligent choice. The scientific and medical backgrounds of its members encourage
optimism: the chairman, Stefan
Dupre, has served on the National
Research Council; Fraser Mustard is
dean of health science at McMaster
University; and Robert Uffin is dean of applied sciences at Queen's Uni-
versity, and formerly chief science
advisor to the federal Government.
We may not all breathe more easily
now that the commission has been set
up- but in time we may..
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Defense Witness for Firm Disputes
Man's Claim That He Has Asbestosis
By MYRNA OLIVER
Tlmtl StaH Wrtt.r
A Philadelphia pulmonary disease expert asserted Wedn~sday that former Long Beach Naval Shipyard worker
Richard J. Hogard has chronic bronchitis caused by smoking and does not have a$~tQi.S as Hogard claims. .
Dr. William Weiss offered the diagnosis as the first defense Witness for Johns- Manville Corp., the world's largest
miner and manufacturer of asbestos, in Hogard's Los Angeles Superior Court tr1al against asbestos manufacturers.
Hogard clrums Johns-Manville and Raybestos-Manhat-
tan lnc.la1led to warn him of the health hazards of working with the1r asbestos insulation products and thus were responsible for his contracting asbestosis.
Quesuoned by Johns-Manville attorney Fulton Haigh about Hogard's physical condition, Weiss said with convictiOn: "I believe he has chronic bronchitis attributable to heavy cigarette smokmg."
Weiss sa1d m answer to Haight's questioning that asbestos dust cannot cause bronchitis. The prime cause of bronchitiS, he said, is c1garette smoking.
We1ss' diagnosis was a direct contradiction to that of Dr. Oscar J. Balchum. head of County-USC Medical Center's lungdJsease umt, who test1fied earlier on Hogard's behalf.
Balchum sa1d Hogard has asbestosis and does not have
bronchiliS. Balchum examined Hogard several times from 1975 to
1977. Bogard left the shipyard with a disability pension in
late 197fi after the doctor advised him to get away from as-
bestos fibers. Balchum, like Bogard's other doctors, also
advised him to qmt smoking, a feat Hogard testified he has
been unable to accomplish. . We1ss. a professor of pulmonary med1cme at Hahne-
mann Med1cal College, Philadelphia, and former practitioner and researcher at Philadelphia General Hosp1tal. never personally examined Hogard. He made h1s diagnosis
from examimng X-rays and results of lung funct1on tests
made by Balchum. Sl)owmg JUrors ,an X-ray which st1ll bore Balchum's
penr1l marks, We1ss said the scarnng which Balchum had attributed to asbestOSIS was actually caused by Hogard's
smoking. Lines Balchum had identified on the X-ray as
"pleural thickening," another symptom of the irreveTSlble
asbestosis, were described by Weiss as mere "muscle sha-
dows."
"This is normal." the manufacturers' medical Witness
said, "for a man who has smoked a pack of cigarettes a day
for 25 years."
One reason Balchum had insisted Hogard had no chronic
bronchitis was that tests showed no obstruction of air flow
common m the disease. QuestiOned about that durmg
cross-exammation by Hogard's attorney Robert B. Stein-
berg, We1ss said many people with bronchitis never show
such obstructiOn until the disease advances into emphyse-
ma.
We1ss said a h1gh red blood cell count, called polycythe-
ma. helped move the diagnosis away from asbestosis to
bronchitiS.
"A fa1r number of people with bronchitis do develop po-
lycythema," he said "It never happens in asbestosis."
D1sagreemg w1th other experts. Weiss said asbestOSIS
develops only after about 20 years of constant exposure to
asbestos fibers. Hogard worked with asbestos materials
about 10 years.
Anyone with asbestosis also should have "crackles," dry
crackling nmses while breathing, Weiss said, and no test
results showed Hogard had them. An asbestosis victim, he
added, could only expect to get worse, and Hogard's lung
functiOn tests in 1977 actually showed some improvement
over thosp m 1!l7S
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Hogard, 4U, nas sal<l ne smoked one pack or cugareu.es a
day since he was 15. (Haight insists pre-trial statements by Hogard indicate he regularly smok~ two packs a day.)
The asbestos manufacturers have maintained that Ho-
gard's cough, by now familiar to jurors, and tung scarring were caused by smoking and a 1978 bout with pneumonia.
We1ss sa1d X-rays taken in 1979 and 1980 showed an
added scar tissue on Hogard's lungs, which he attributed
d1rectly to the pneumonia.
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As for the effect of asbestos on chances of getting lung
cancer. We1ss said he believes the keycause is smoking
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and that asbestos would be only an "enhancing agent." He
sa1d a smoker workmg with asbestos woUld have a five
t1mes greater risk of getting lung cancer than a smoker in
another occupation-an estimate far lower than that of
other researchers.
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The Hogard case in lhe courtroom of Judge Earl F. Riley 1s bemg watched by litigants across the nation who hope 1t
will establish guidelines for settling their own s1m1lar cases out of court. More than 1,000 such suits are pending m the
Los Angeles SuperiOr Court alone. /
Asbestosis: Johns-Manville view
To the Editor of The Day: Your Feb. 21 1980 editorial,
"Money and morals look to source for cost of asbestosis," is a continua lion of the media's regrettable pat tern of publishing only those items which sensationalize a subject rather than which tend to inform the public in a balanced report.
I would like to specifically respond to some of the statements in your editorial. You are quite right that knowledge of asbestosis did exist in the 1930s. At that time, however, the disease was thought to be confined to the very intense occupational exposures found in asbestos textile mills.
Steps were taken then and afterwards to control the dust exposure
and to learn more about the medical aspects of ube~exposure.
In the early 1930s the asbestos industry and its insurance carriers underwrote medical studies on asbestos-related disease. Seminars, attended by the chief medical officer
of the U.S. Public Health Service and his counterpart in Canada, were conducted during these studies. A documented history of continuing industry participation in medical stu dies can be traced from the 1930s up to today.
Further there are some additional facts about exposures in the ship yards that the media continually chooses to overlook:
The government specifically required that asbestos products be used for in~ulztion and fire protec Uon in warships.
The government was responsible
for the shipyard work practices in the Navy yards.
The government followed the
U.S. Public Health Service recom-
mended standard for exposure set in
1938.
A5 late as 1946 the government
published a study which indicated
that insulation work in the shipyards
was not a hazardous occupation.
The association between exposure
to asbestos and lung cancer in insu
latlon workers was not confirmed
until publication of a study in 1964 by
Dr. Irving Selikoff of Mount Sinai
School of Medicine. In that same
year Johns-Manville began putthig a
caution label on Its asbestos insula
tion products, seven years before
government regulations required
such labeling.
From this same study the medical
community now agrees that "but for
cigarette smoking, lung cancer
would not have been a significant
disease factor among asbestos
workers." It is beyond our under
standing why this association be
tween cigarette smoking, asbestos
exposure and lung cancer is contin
ually overlooked by the media when
they print stories about asbestos-
related disease.
Also, asbestos is not the only
known cause of mesothelioma. The
medical community has identified
the existence of mesothelioma in po-
pulations exposed to naturally oc-
curing zeolites (a silicate used in
water softening and as an absor-
bent) and in sugar cane workers in
Louisiana.
James F. Reis
The writer is director, Asbestos
Policy, for Johns-Manville Corp.,
Denver, Colo.
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