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To: Carrier, David OM SGLPG-OIGS <david.carrier@shell.com> From: Clegg, Patsy M SCC-CHSE-PC </O=SHE LUOU=MSXSCC/CN=RE CI PI ENTS/CN=PH197432> Cc: Bcc: Received Date: 2004-09-1300:26:30 GMT Subject: RE: Propane Specs Oh, my goodness. It is you! Yes, I am the Patsy; only I was Patsy Hill back then. In the meantime, my first husband passed away, I raised my 2 children; I have remarried - hence the new last name Clegg. I became an instant grandmother. Between the 2 us, we have 8 kids, 5 are married, with 10 grandchildren. I'm still in HSE supporting the aromatics and phenol business, and beginning to do some lower olefins. Benzene keeps me very busy with the Shanghai Health Study and VCCEP (children's health). We implemented the SAP MSDS system last year, so that has been fun. Please, if you are ever in Houston, give me a call. Actually, I will be in London Oct 5-8. Getting in the morning of the 5th, so not yet sure if I am coming to Shell Centre or relaxing. Have to leave about 12 on Friday. Flying to Munich for a benzene symposium. In Rotterdam the following week for an audit and the London the following week finishing the audit. I plan to be at Shell on Friday, Oct 22. Maybe we could meet for coffee or lunch. Regards, Patsy Patsy Clegg Product Steward Shell Chemical LP One Shell Plaza, 91 0 Louisiana, Houston, TX 77002-4916 Tel: +1 713241 2521 Fax: 3325 Email: patsy.clegg@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals -----Original Message----From: Carrier, David OM SGLPG-OIGS Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2: 11 AM To: Clegg, Patsy M SCC-CHSE-PC Subject: RE: Propane Specs Sensitivity: Confidential Patsy, Out of curiosity, are you the Patsy that I worked with about 10 years ago when we were both working in the HSE regulatory compliance area? I came across to Houston to discuss AeroShell Products formulations and their classifications under EU regulations - and, more importantly, we went to see the Astros play! Regards I Salutations David Carrier HSE Coordinator, Shell Gas (LPG) Shell Centre, York Road, London, SE1 7NA Phone: +44-(0)20-7934-6385 Fax: +44-(0)20-7934-7850 Mobile: +44-(0)7812-350610 Please note new number Email: david.carrier@shell.com SH ELL-MCCLU RG-063489 Shell Gas (LPG) intranet site: http://sww-lpg.shell.com/lpg/generic/menu.asp?ID=1000 Shell Gas (LPG) WWW site: http://www.shellgaslpg.com/ Please note that attachments are usually compressed -----Original Message----From: Jim Krouse [mailto:Jim.Krouse@shellgas.com] Sent: 08 September 2004 15: 16 To: Vernon, George W SGLPG-OIGS; Clegg, Patsy M SCC-CHSE-PC Cc: Carrier, David OM SGLPG-OIGS; Jim Krouse Subject: RE: Propane Specs Sensitivity: Confidential I agree with George Regards Jim Krouse Manager HSSE Mobile:+1 231 3350054 Phone +1 231 924 2140 (operator) Personal extension 8366 Fax: +1 231 9240967 Email: jim.krouse@shellgas.com Website: www.shellgas.com Shell Gas (LPG) Bulk LLC 5857 SWarner Avenue Fremont, MI 49412 Note: This electronic communication may contain PRIVILEGED and/or CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. Any dissemination, copying or use of this electronic communication (email) by or to anyone other than the designated recipient(s) is unauthorized. If you received this electronic communication in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it From: Vernon, George W SGLPG-OIGS [mailto:george.vernon@shell.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10: 13 AM To: Clegg, Patsy M SCC-CHSE-PC Cc: Carrier, David OM SGLPG-OIGS; Jim Krouse Subject: RE: Propane Specs Sensitivity: Confidential Patsy SH ELL-MCCLU RG-063490 I'm not immediately attracted to having a specific limit in any published spec - that would give a spurious credibility to some benzene content which I believe is very uncommon in commercial LPGs. My preference would be leave it covered by the generalities for now. Fully support you setting such a limit for internal control purposes. regards George -----Original Message----From: Clegg, Patsy M SCC-CHSE-PC Sent: 08 September 2004 14:39 To: Jim Krouse; Vernon, George W SGLPG-OIGS Cc: Carrier, David OM SGLPG-OIGS Subject: RE: Propane Specs Sensitivity: Confidential Thanks to all for your timely responses. I am ordering a copy of the specs identified. Do you know if there is a benzene spec? If not, do we need to encourage the business to establish one? If so, at what level? Since LPG finds its way into the consumer market, I would suggest 0-1 ppm. What do you think? Regards, Patsy Patsy Clegg Product Steward Shell Chemical LP One Shell Plaza, 91 0 Louisiana, Houston, TX 77002-4916 Tel: +1 713241 2521 Fax: 3325 Email: patsy.clegg@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals -----Original Message----From: Jim Krouse [mailto:Jim.Krouse@shellgas.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8: 17 AM To: Vernon, George W SGLPG-OIGS; Clegg, Patsy M SCC-CHSE-PC Cc: Carrier, David OM SGLPG-OIGS; Jim Krouse Subject: RE: Propane Specs All Specifications of LP-Gases are listed in Gas Processors Association, Standard 2140, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Specifications for Test Methods, or ASTM 01835, Specifications for Liquefied Petroleum (LP) Gases. Regards SHELL-MCCLURG-063491 Jim Krouse Manager HSSE Mobile:+1 231 3350054 Phone +1 231 924 2140 (operator) Personal extension 8366 Fax: +1 231 9240967 Email: jim.krouse@shellgas.com Website: www.shellgas.com Shell Gas (LPG) Bulk LLC 5857 SWarner Avenue Fremont, MI 49412 Note: This electronic communication may contain PRIVILEGED and/or CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. Any dissemination, copying or use of this electronic communication (email) by or to anyone other than the designated recipient(s) is unauthorized. If you received this electronic communication in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it From: Vernon, George W SGLPG-OIGS [mailto:george.vernon@shell.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08,20043:50 AM To: Clegg, Patsy M SCC-CHSE-PC Cc: Carrier, David OM SGLPG-OIGS; Jim Krouse Subject: RE: Propane Specs Hi Patsy Yes indeed we would like the benzene content (all aromatics) to be effectively zero (certainly <0.1 %m/m) for commercial grades of LPG for the very sound H & S reason that you mention. I believe the commercial LPG spec in the US is HD5 published by GPA up in Tulsa. Our folks in Shell Gas USA in Michigan (Jim Krouse) may be able to help you more if necessary. regards George -----Original Message----From: Clegg, Patsy M SCC-CHSE-PC Sent: 07 September 2004 18:33 To: Carrier, David OM SGLPG-OIGS; Vernon, George W SGLPG-OIGS Subject: Propane Specs David and George; Rick Weidel gave me your names. I am trying to answer a question from the Shell Chemicals phenol business. Propane is a by-product of cumene manufacture. The propane stream is sent to the refinery to become a part of the propane pool that is converted to LPG. The question is: What is the Shell, industry and/or regulatory limit for benzene in propane/LPG. The only reference we can find in the US is a fuels spec (40 CFR 79.55) which limits "butane and heavier, vol%, max 2.5." Barring a spec that we have yet to identify, HSE would prefer that a spec of <0.1 % be established to preclude cancer warnings on the product. I would appreciate any help that you could give me in answering this question. Regards, SH ELL-MCCLU RG-063492 Patsy Patsy Clegg Product Steward Shell Chemical LP One Shell Plaza, 91 0 Louisiana, Houston, TX 77002-4916 Tel: +1 713241 2521 Fax: 3325 Email: patsy.clegg@shell.com Internet: http://www.shell.com/chemicals SH ELL-MCCLU RG-063493